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    Gronk committed deliberate, intentional, and defenseless criminal assault with his metal elbow brace

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    1 minute ago, Gugny said:

     

    First - I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I don't think there are similarities.  I do.  I just think using a baseball bat as a weapon is a lot worse than using an arm brace.  I get that Gronk used all of his body weight and clearly aimed his brace into White's helmet.  But a bat ... I just think it would be worse and a lot more dangerous.

    So you think a 270 lb rock-head diving and throwing his entire body weight on a much smaller man's head is less dangerous than striking someone with a baseball bat?  I'll stand by my analogy.  Gronkowski belongs in jail.  

    Dan Patrick's initial reaction to Gronk reveals a lot

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    23 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

    Tells me all I need to know about how the National Media works and how much they do not like Buffalo, don't want to travel to Buffalo, and want things to stay JUST as they are.

     

    Dan Patrick was asked 'Should Gronk be suspended' Quick answers: Yeah, yeah, but at least Gronk apologized...and seemed to rush right through it...

     

    Of course he did.

     

    If Brady was hit by say Lorenzo Alexander like that, ESPN would have a special round-table discussion and DP would be inconsolable and calling for Alexander to be punished by stoning.

     

    Guys like Dan Patrick needs his Tom Brady talking points to keep going...needs the same teams to be good, makes their hack jobs easier. Buffalo must not alter things for hacks like Patrick, Cowherd.

     

    Bottom Line: Any Buffalo fans out there yearning for validation from these media types. Forget it. It isn't in the cards.

     

    Patrick is a lazy imbecile who knows zero about sports.  I would be surprised if he even bothers to watch NFL football on his Sunday afternoons. 

    Gronk committed deliberate, intentional, and defenseless criminal assault with his metal elbow brace

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by mannc

    18 minutes ago, Gugny said:

     

    I agree.  But this wasn't on the street; it was on a football field.

     

    I'm not saying that the hit wasn't dirty.  I'm not saying that it wouldn't be "assault" if it happened between two people on the street.

     

    If I throw a baseball as hard as I can and hit someone in the head on purpose, I'll get charged.  Just like if I slash someone with a hockey stick.

    You are missing the crucial (and, I thought obvious) point that what Gronk did was well after the play had ended.  It had nothing to do with a football play.  It was a cowardly assault, no different from a batter clubbing an unsuspecting catcher with his bat between pitches.  I am amazed you can’t see that.

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    Bills Patriots 2nd half thread

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by mannc

    15 minutes ago, K-9 said:

     

     

    Ah yes, the numbers argument.  By that measure, practically every receiver and QB in the era of liberalized passing rules  may be considered better than anyone that played before. It is intellectually lazy to compare players across eras. The players I mentioned dominated their competition in their respective eras just as Gronk does against his opponents today. It’s a bit more nuanced than gross stats.

     

    I take nothing away from Gronk as he is certainly up there and will be a first ballot HOFer, just as those guys were. But like I said, if Gronk does it for you, great. 

    Are you watching today’s game?  He is completely unstoppable.  Completely.  And he’s been doing it to everyone in the league for a decade. The other guys you mention were very good players, but not even in the conversation with Gronk.  It’s simply not true that they dominated their eras.  Mackey and Ditka had a few outstanding years.

    Bills Patriots 2nd half thread

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    1 minute ago, K-9 said:

    Serious as a heart attack. Those players were every bit as dominant in their eras as Gronk. Best of all time arguments are moot at best. 

    WRT Mackey, Ditka and Winslow, the numbers certainly don’t support your argument. Plus Gronk has been THE dominant non-QB on the greatest dynasty in NFL history.

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