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22 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:
I agree, they have been trying to unload Glenn for awhile now.
We made it into the playoffs last year with a 1st year HC. I think McCarron is a upgrade to Taylor and the talent we could add with all those picks should easily give us a good chance to make another playoff push.
Agreed. Don’t panic. Let the draft come to you. Take a QB somewhere, but don’t give away the farm to move up. There’s a good chance Mayfield, Allen, Jackson and/or Rudolph will be available where we are picking, and not necessarily with our first pick. Great chance to add starters at LB, DL and maybe WR, along with O-line and RB depth, in this draft.
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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
No. My point is what it says. Right now, we are headed into the season with the worst QB situation in the league, even assuming we draft a QB at 12. As for McCarron being the best of all available QB prospects: (1) define "prospect." (2) if he was the best, why didn't he garner more interest/a higher salary? I like signing him for a very affordable price, but I only like it if a one of the true blue chip draft picks comes along with him, and right now, that's not looking so good.
Would you rather have Tyrod than McCarron? That’s the only difference from last year. Plus we have a ton of picks coming up in a very good QB draft. Dooomed!
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2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:
if we can't get baker, i def. want rudolph at 22. i hadn't thought about ridley at 12....interesting....
Ridley can be had with either of our second round picks. He is not a great pro prospect.
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On 3/19/2018 at 4:59 PM, Real McCoy said:
If it's for their guy then go for it. I think we might trade up to 7-10 to get our guy though for a fraction.
Problem is we don't know who "the guy" is?
Wasn’t Zay Jones their guy last year? Or was he a Whaley pick?
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Another successful trade up in the draft...
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I believe the Giants badly want to move out of the second pick, and I doubt there is any other team able or willing to offer anything close to what the Bills could offer. The Bills hold all the cards here.
I think the reported offer is too steep and that we should be able to get a mid round pick or two back from the Giants in that scenario.
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Gruden is already ruining that team. They are going to be awful this year.
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1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
Possible, but not likely. As a previous poster suggested, why would they give up so much for anything other than a QB?
I agree it makes little sense, but if you’re stupid enough to take a RB at 3, you’re stupid enough to trade up for the privilege,
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49 minutes ago, kdiggz said:
Darnold isn't very good I don't get it. Watch the UCLA usc game and keep in mind how much better usc is and how bad UCLA is
Yep, he’s on a loaded team and he still stinks. I don’t understand how this guy is considered a first round pick. Matt Leinert 2.0, without the accuracy or winning.
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16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Bryce Petty, Sackenberg, Paying Fitz though..
His QB decisions have been bad.
Yeah, not exactly the franchise we should be emulating when it comes to QB...
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14 minutes ago, ALF said:
If the Giants want to rebuild around Eli they will move down to the highest bidder. The Bills at 12 and 22 have to be looking good for them.
I would think 3 QBs go then the Browns trade down from #4 and get a LT to replace Joe Thomas and more. Barkley would be nice at 4 but they have more needs to rebuild .
So the Bills might have a chance at #2 and #4
The Browns aren’t moving down again. They actually have too many picks right now. If anything, they will try to move up to 2.
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5 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:
It would be great if our guy dropped to 6 and we could trade up and get him at that spot. I would rather wait and see what happens at 6 than spend all of our draft capital on trading up to 2. There is also a smaller chance that we can trade up to 4 with the Browns if they are game. I'd be OK with that too if the cost wasn't too high and our guy is sitting there.
I'm sure Beane will be on the phone with the Brown's and Colt's GMs repeatedly between now and draft night building possible frameworks for trades. I'm sure he'll be calling Elway too to get a sense of what they're willing to do. Any trade up the Bills make will have to be predicated on who is left on the board when the 4th, 5th, and 6th picks roll around. No way Beane deals before the draft, he won't pull the trigger on any trade up until he knows which QB falls out of the top three.
Completely agree. To me, one of the most interesting things about the article was the consensus (sort of) that there are about 70 starter quality guys in this draft. With five picks in the first 65, the Bills are in great position. I hope Beane is patient and they don’t squander it.
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3 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
The Rams and Eagles say otherwise. You get your QB when you can.
With that said this is a deep QB class and who knows what can happen.
The Eagles were able to turn around and get back the picks they gave up by trading Bradford to the desperate Vikings. Not a good comparison. Plus, Foles won them the Lombardi, not Wentz.
And the Rams really haven’t done much, despite having a very talented roster.
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56 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:
If I recall correctly, at least one of them has been outstanding - David DeCastro.
He was a late first round pick and hardly touted as “generational”.
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41 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:
Broncos at five - Quinten Nelson is in play here if they pick, generational guard
If I recall correctly, the past three or four "generational guards" have all been massive busts.
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The Bills benefitted greatly from tanking the last game of 2016 vs the Jets.
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8 minutes ago, BrycePaup4ever said:
Which is why they would trade two of them not three
Well, last year the Texans traded their first round pick (25) and this year’s first round pick to move to 12. But you think trading 12 this year for two seconds would be a good deal
Indy would probably trade those two picks for 22.
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Just now, Boatdrinks said:
Tom Donahoe , the Bills GM at the time of the '04 draft had a deal to move up in place with the Texans. It was cancelled by the Texans at the last minute when they thought their targeted player might get picked before Buffalo's pick at 13. Donahoe coveted Roethlisberger, and knew he had to get in front of Pittsburgh to get him. He wasn't asleep at the wheel.
Yeah, God forbid the Texans miss out on the great Dunta Robinson.
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4 minutes ago, BrycePaup4ever said:
Trade 12 to the Colts for the two formerJets Picks? We would have 5 picks in 27 or 28 picks. Wow!
Pick 12 is worth quite a bit more than that. It probably would command all 3 of indy’s Second round picks.
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5 minutes ago, Putin said:
Actually you may have something here
Rosen - health issues
Darnlod - decision making
Mayfield - might not be McBeane type
Allen - needs lots of work
maybe the QB we’re looking to get is not one of those top 4/5 that everyone else is talking about , maybe it was all smoke & mirrors that made the Jets jump ,
I'm not even saying Beane doesn't want Rosen or Darnold; I'm saying sometimes it's better to stay put and see what happens. Sometimes the teams picking higher pick the guy who busts and you get the better player by default.
The best thing that ever happened to the Supersonics/Thunder was NOT getting the top pick in the 2007 NBA draft. If they had, they almost certainly would have picked Greg Oden instead of Kevin Durant.
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35 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:
The 2004 draft was the stupidest thing ever.
All we had to do was move ahead of Pittsburgh and we would've had Big Ben.
But Donahoe was a complete idiot and said the asking price was too much.
The funniest thing about it is that the two teams we could have traded with to get ahead of Pittsburgh (Jacksonville and Houston) both needed QBs, both passed on Roethlisberger, and both picked awful busts instead.
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1 hour ago, Success said:
I think they may stay put and go that route. McCarron can really sling it. Coach him up and use all of our picks to build a great young team.
And draft a QB with one of our current picks. No need to panic.
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Just now, Buffalo Ballin said:
We have the 12 pick. Lamar Jackson might drop to 12.
Relax everyone. We don't need to move up to 2 (or even 4) to get a QB. Despite the rush to judgment, no one (and I mean no one) knows whether Darnold or Rosen will be better than Mayfield, Jackson or Allen. Last year the two best QB prospects dropped out of the top 9. In a deeper, more talented class, there's no reason to think there won't be very good prospects available at 12 or within striking distance of there--Allen, Rudolph, Mayfield, Jackson all could be available after pick 9. Frankly, I think all four of them are better than Darnold, but that seems to be a minority opinion.
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We should be happy about this. A division rival just squandered a boatload of premium picks to move up a few slots to take a QB who will likely bust (given the Jests’ track record) on the heels of ponying up big bucks to sign Bridgewater and McCown and spending a second on Sackenberg in 2016.
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Breer: Lack of QBs in '19 Draft Putting Pressure on Teams to Get Theirs Now
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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So the Broncos have already given up on Paxton Lynch, a first round pick who’s barely played?