[Meanwhile, in Oakland]

Gruden is already ruining that team.  They are  going to be awful this year.

[What if the Jets are pulling a Rope-a-Dope and draft Barkley]

1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Possible, but not likely.  As a previous poster suggested, why would they give up so much for anything other than a QB?

I agree it makes little sense, but if you’re stupid enough to take a RB at 3, you’re stupid enough to trade up for the privilege,

[Bob McGinn's Anonymous Scouts Quotes (2018 QBs)]

49 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

Darnold isn't very good I don't get it. Watch the UCLA usc game and keep in mind how much better usc is and how bad UCLA is

Yep, he’s on a loaded team and he still stinks.  I don’t understand how this guy is considered a first round pick.  Matt Leinert 2.0, without the accuracy or winning.

[Peter King MMQB - Lot's of good stuff, Colts Trading 6 and a New Beane Q&A]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bryce Petty, Sackenberg, Paying Fitz though..  His QB decisions have been bad.

Yeah, not exactly the franchise we should be emulating when it comes to QB...

[The Bills aren't showing they're desperate for a QB]

14 minutes ago, ALF said:

If the Giants want to rebuild around Eli they will move down to the highest bidder. The Bills at 12 and 22 have to be looking good for them.

 

I would think 3 QBs go then the Browns trade down from #4 and get a LT to replace Joe Thomas and more. Barkley would be nice at 4 but they have more needs to rebuild . 

 

So the Bills might have a chance at #2 and #4

The Browns aren’t moving down again.  They actually have too many picks right now.  If anything, they will try to move up to 2.

[Peter King MMQB - Lot's of good stuff, Colts Trading 6 and a New Beane Q&A]

5 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

It would be great if our guy dropped to 6 and we could trade up and get him at that spot.  I would rather wait and see what happens at 6 than spend all of our draft capital on trading up to 2.  There is also a smaller chance that we can trade up to 4 with the Browns if they are game.  I'd be OK with that too if the cost wasn't too high and our guy is sitting there.  

 

I'm sure Beane will be on the phone with the Brown's and Colt's GMs repeatedly between now and draft night building possible frameworks for trades.  I'm sure he'll be calling Elway too to get a sense of what they're willing to do.  Any trade up the Bills make will have to be predicated on who is left on the board when the 4th, 5th, and 6th picks roll around.  No way Beane deals before the draft, he won't pull the trigger on any trade up until he knows which QB falls out of the top three.

Completely agree.  To me, one of the most interesting things about the article was the consensus (sort of) that there are about 70 starter quality guys in this draft.  With five picks in the first 65,  the Bills are in great position. I hope Beane is patient and they don’t squander it. 

[For all who want to trade up so bad]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

The Rams and Eagles say otherwise.  You get your QB when you can.

 

With that said this is a deep QB class and who knows what can happen.

The Eagles were able to turn around and get back the picks they gave up by trading Bradford to the desperate Vikings.  Not a good comparison.  Plus, Foles won them the Lombardi, not Wentz.  

 

And the Rams really haven’t done much, despite having a very talented roster. 

[QB Faults and why to not trade up]

56 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

If I recall correctly, at least one of them has been outstanding - David DeCastro.

He was a late first round pick and hardly touted as “generational”.

[QB Faults and why to not trade up]

41 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:

 

 

Broncos at five - Quinten Nelson is in play here if they pick, generational guard

If I recall correctly, the past three or four "generational guards" have all been massive busts.   

[Why didnt the Jets just lose another game or two instead of trading away their draft?]

The Bills benefitted greatly from tanking the last game of 2016 vs the Jets.  

[I think we should trade down. Imagine 4 second round picks!]

8 minutes ago, BrycePaup4ever said:

Which is why they would trade two of them not three

Well, last year the Texans traded their first round pick (25) and this year’s first round pick to move to 12. But you think trading 12 this year for two seconds would be a good deal  Indy would probably trade those two picks for 22.

[Memories of 2004 NFL Draft]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

Tom Donahoe , the Bills GM at the time of the '04 draft had a deal to move up in place with the Texans. It was cancelled by the Texans at the last minute when they thought their targeted player might get picked before Buffalo's pick at 13. Donahoe coveted Roethlisberger, and knew he had to get in front of Pittsburgh to get him. He wasn't asleep at the wheel. 

Yeah, God forbid the Texans miss out on the great Dunta Robinson.

[I think we should trade down. Imagine 4 second round picks!]

4 minutes ago, BrycePaup4ever said:

Trade 12 to the Colts for the two formerJets Picks? We would have 5 picks in 27 or 28 picks. Wow!

Pick 12 is worth quite a bit more than that.  It probably would command all 3 of indy’s Second round picks.

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

5 minutes ago, Putin said:

Actually you may have something here 

Rosen - health issues 

Darnlod - decision making 

Mayfield - might not be  McBeane type 

Allen - needs lots of work 

maybe the QB we’re looking to get is not one of those top 4/5 that everyone else is talking about , maybe it was all smoke & mirrors that made the Jets jump , 

 

I'm not even saying Beane doesn't want Rosen or Darnold; I'm saying sometimes it's better to stay put and see what happens.  Sometimes the teams picking higher pick the guy who busts and you get the better player by default. 

 

The best thing that ever happened to the Supersonics/Thunder was NOT getting the top pick in the 2007 NBA draft.  If they had, they almost certainly would have picked Greg Oden instead of Kevin Durant. 

[Memories of 2004 NFL Draft]

35 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

The 2004 draft was the stupidest thing ever.

 

All we had to do was move ahead of Pittsburgh and we would've had Big Ben.

 

But Donahoe was a complete idiot and said the asking price was too much. 

The funniest thing about it is that the two teams we could have traded with to get ahead of Pittsburgh (Jacksonville and Houston) both needed QBs, both passed on Roethlisberger, and both picked awful busts instead. 

[The Mighty McCarron]

1 hour ago, Success said:

I think they may stay put and go that route.  McCarron can really sling it.  Coach him up and use all of our picks to build a great young team.

And draft a QB with one of our current picks.  No need to panic.

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

Just now, Buffalo Ballin said:

We have the 12 pick. Lamar Jackson might drop to 12.

Relax everyone.  We don't need to move up to 2 (or even 4) to get a QB.  Despite the rush to judgment, no one (and I mean no one) knows whether Darnold or Rosen will be better than Mayfield, Jackson or Allen.  Last year the two best QB prospects dropped out of the top 9.  In a deeper, more talented class, there's no reason to think there won't be very good prospects available at 12 or within striking distance of there--Allen, Rudolph, Mayfield, Jackson all could be available after pick 9.  Frankly, I think all four of them are better than Darnold, but that seems to be a minority opinion.    

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

We should be happy about this.  A division rival just squandered a boatload of premium picks to move up a few slots to take a QB who will likely bust (given the Jests’ track record) on the heels of ponying up big bucks to sign Bridgewater and McCown and spending a second on Sackenberg in 2016.

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We’ve essentially been locked out.

 

It will now take the 12th, 22nd, 53, 65, 2019 1st and 3rd to get to #2

Very possible—and that’s too much to pay.

[Is Jerry Hughes worth a swap of ones with Tampa Bay?]

21 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Jets are not trading up.  They are not signing McCown, Bridgewater and then trading up giving up assets for a guy there will be pressure to start almost immediately.  I don't rule them out of taking whoever is there at #6 still, but I think more likely the Jets are going the take another shot at a 2nd round guy.... Rudolph if he falls there or Mike White. 

This one didn’t age too well, Bill

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

4 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We’ve essentially been locked out.

 

It will now take the 12th, 22nd, 53, 65, 2019 1st and 3rd to get to #2

Very possible—and that’s too much to pay.

[Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round]

1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Not shocked. There was going to be movement. This just shows the Bills either have a deal for 1 or 2, or they aren't as hot to trade up as reports said. Bills could have beaten that deal.

Good point.  What this shows is that the Bills couldn’t or wouldn’t put up a comparable ransom for pick 3. Indy certainly shopped the pick and had to have given the Bills a chance to match, which would probably have meant 12, 22, both seconds, plus something else. Beane obviously wouldn’t do it and I doubt he’ll pay the Giants’ even higher price.

[Vontaze suspended for PEDS]

In most sports, this would result in a two year ban, minimum.  NFL’s PED policy is an utter joke.

[RB Will Not Be a 2018 Draft Priority]

I think we should (and will) grab one late.

[The Colts' #3 Pick is Very Much in Play - Acquired by the NYJ]

25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Seems about right.  No way the Colts keep the third pick.  This is the right move for them.  Bills then have their choice of QBs, minus whomever the Browns take at 1.  (I expect Browns to try to trade up to 2 and take Barkley there.)