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The Broncos must lose two. If we both finish 10-6, Denver will have a better AFC record than us. All 4 of their remaining games are against AFC teams, and right now they are 4-4 against the AFC. A 10-6 finish would mean they would finish with a 7-5 record against the AFC. If the Bills win out and finish 10-6, they would have a 6-6 AFC record. We are 3-6 against the AFC right now, and have only 3 games left against AFC teams.

Today was a less than forgettable day for JJ. I'm sure the shoulder had a lot to do with it, but he hurt us more by being in there, IMO. Penalties, poor blocking...I just don't know.

Granted, the odds are still slim, but the way this weekend turned out, the odds are maybe not as bad as before. Sure as hell is a lot more fun than sulking. GO BILLS

Maybe not...if the Bungles lose at New England next week, they are 6-7 and all but knocked out. Perhaps they won't be at the top of their game when we meet?

I don't care how old he's getting...that one play is enough for me to shell out some bucks for him to keep playing with us another couple of years!

Unless Denver has already lost two before then, then they are out (assuming we win out, that is)

Basically, we need to hope that: Denver loses at least two more (possible, but not that great) Baltimore loses at least two more (very possible) Jacksonville loses just one more (very possible) and/or the Jets lose three of four (possible, but not that great) and, of course, that we win out (which would also eliminate Cincy)

Right now, Denver is 4-4 in the AFC, Buffalo is 3-6. The Bills have 3 games left against AFC opponents, and since we must win out, that would make us 6-6 in the AFC. The Broncos have all 4 games left against AFC opponents. Since they are now 7-5, they would need to go 3-1 to finish 10-6, which would give them a 7-5 AFC record. So, unfortunately, we would also need Denver to finish at 9-7 to get the last wild card. Their games are against MIA, at KC, at TEN, and IND. It is possible they could go 2-2 in that stretch, but I'm guessing not likely. Then again, I've seen stranger things.

Basically, I think it's unrealistic to think the Jets will tank the rest of the season, which means they get one of the two wild card spots. That means we have to beat out everybody else for the final wild card. Right now, we're 6-6. We need to be 10-6. The Ravens and Broncos are now 7-5. Hopefully, if the Steelers can pull it out tonight, the Jags would be 6-6. The real problem is that we lost to both the Ravens and Jags, so we can't be tied with them at 10-6 since they get the tiebreaker. So, both of those teams need to go 9-7 or worse, which means they both have to lose at least 2 more. I don't know the tiebreaker situation with Denver. Would we win the tiebreaker if we both finished 10-6?

"Your winnings, sir." "Oh, thank you very much."

Looks like somebody needs to turn that frown upside down!

I don't remember seeing if he finished the game, but there was a stretch when he was sidelined with what looked like an injury, although I never saw him leave the field. Any word?

I'm still worried about this defensive line. The only way we get any pressure on the QB is to bring a blitz....

If it's upheld, does that mean he has to miss the first four games of next year?

Stop it. Stop it right now.

You left out one more +.

My wife and I do the same thing. Works great. Particularly since we don't have kids.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned the drubbing we gave Miami in 1987. It was at home in November, about a month after we got Cornelius Bennett. I remember the giddiness we were all feeling after that trade, and after Bennett's first game against Denver when he was all over the place. But the real coming of age was the game against Miami in November, when the Bills thrashed the Dolphins 27-0. It was amazing. They built a 21-0 lead by halftime, and cruised the rest of the way. But completely shutting out the hated Dolphins was awesome. You could tell we had a young team that was going to be capable of great things.

You people are all completely high. The Bills are going to run the table and squeak into the playoffs, and with the defense playing lights out, the offense getting revved up, and the special teams splattering people all over the place, we will proceed to place a complete stranglehold on three tough teams on the road to snatch the AFC title when nobody's looking.

The best part is that I didn't catch the post until it was 20 minutes into the show. I thought it was only a half hour show, so I figured I missed most of it. As I turned it on, the Bills were kicking a FG to make the score 7-3. I knew I was in trouble then. No sleep for me. That was a nice hour and a half show. I was so pumped at the end. Unfortuntately, it was midnight.

I agree with ICE on this one, Mickey. The end zone view showed it all. Evans was streaking down around the left hashmark, and the safety had deep coverage on him as you note. For that pass to be complete, Drew had to throw it down the right hashmark, preferably underthrown to a degree. Even so, I doubt there was much that could have made that a complete pass, since the deep safety had great position on Evans. IMO not only was it a poor decision to throw it to Evans on that play (since he was covered well), it was a poor throw. Way overthrown and on the wrong side of the field. Nice analysis otherwise!

Kinda weird...Rene Robert is listed as a Sabres participant, yet the article highlights only Perreault and Martin. Why not promote the entire French Connection? Some great names on that Sabres list...

OMG thank you for telling me this...I've never seen the show...it was so awesome I won't be able to sleep for another hour. Anyone have that version on DVD?

I actually think that most, if not all, of those points are fairly valid. I don't agree with all of them completely, but I think you make good arguments for most. The one I do take exception to is Schobel. While I agree that Schobel is not worth big contract money, and right now he is not anywhere near a Pro-Bowl caliber DE, he is still relatively young and improving. Plus, we don't have anything better. I think if Kelsay improves more, or we can get a top-notch LDE, Schobel would still be a solid starter on the other side.

I have to say, for some completely unknown reason, I find this thread fascinating.