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The last two GMs that were fired got theit walking papers during the season. Polian agreed to stay until the end of the season***. Butler or Ralph didn't make the same deal. In another post Rockpile asked where was TD and why Ralph came in from Detroit to handle the situation. Well, if TD is there in title only, having agreed to atay until the end of the season, it would answer his question. ***-When I was flying back from Super Bowl XXVII, I called my friend in Depew. a teacher at St. Francis, where Polians kids went to high school. He gave me the scoop, a few days before the official announcement. Polian had been fired in mid season, but agreed to stay with the team through the Super Bowl. The fact that he told me on Tuesday that Polian was fired and the team didn't announce it until a few days later leads me to conclude the part about Polian being fired mid season is accurate.

I agree, MM & TD are gone. Reading between the lines, I'll guess what Ralph said to Eric, poetic license meter on high: "The coach wants to suspend you for the rest of the season. I had to come here and settle this because even though I know he's wrong, I can't publicly side with a head coach over a player. Eric, son, I have to have some credibilty when I hire a new coach next January, so take the one game suspension. If the next coach feels you're important to his offensive schemes, I hope you'd consider taking a pay cut and staying here, because you mean a lot more to me than those two idiots I currently have in charge, who are embarrassing both of us and running my team into the ground. Finally Eric, I'd like you to have these 2 pies my wife baked you. Now the one on the left, cut it and enjoy, it tastes great. The other pie, be careful how you cut it, it may not be too tasty, but when you open it up, you'll feel like $93,000-if you know what I mean (wink, wink)."

Lost control in his 2nd season so that we wouldn't have to wait any longer to fire him, paving the way for Ralph to realize that he needs a big time coach instead of Donahoe's experiments. In 2006 the Bills hired xxxxxxxxxxx, which started the Bills dynasty of the 21st century. If Mularkey had just been adequate, he never would have been fired after just 2 seasons of a 5 year contract and the Bills would have continued to wallow in mediocrity. Mularkey being so bad is his greatest accomplishment for this franchise.

Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted. Mularkey will be fired because he has lost the team and no coach can survive that. If Ralph has some stones, he'll fire Donahoe & Mularkey today. I know that won't happen, but unless Mularkey proves that he can get along with the players he's gone. Even Willis is calling this chaos. Ralph will not stand for this more than 4 more weeks.

Signs won't work! They will just take them away at the gate, or if you sneak them in, they'll take them from you in the stands. The only thing that will work is getting the fans to verbally abuse TD & MM in unison. Let's get it done Sunday!

The Moulds episode is just one in what continues to be a disrespect by management of guys who toiled for years in a Bills uniform. In recent years we've see: Eric Moulds' career end in a stupid conflict, Sam Adams playing his last season under a cloud of he said-he said between Sam's agent & Mularkey, Pat Williams leaving angry, Ruben Brown not being permitted to finish his season because mgt didn't want him here on his last game here, Steve Christie being put on IR then waived in TD's 1st season, and going back a few years-the release of Bruce Smith, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas on the same day. I could go on with the history of coaches like Wade being fired, not even informed that his family's health insurance was cancelled and Ralph not willing to pay him, Chuck Knox leaving here for Seattle because of Ralph's stinginess, Lou Saban not on the wall and John Rauch being thrown under the bus by Ralph, forcing his resignation. The bottom line is this stuff has always happened under Ralph's direction. I could even go back to Cookie Gilchrist.

That's why I'm advocation verbal abuse. If we can get at least half the stadium calling for TD to be fired in unison, they can't do a thing.

I hope Ralph puts MM in the same position he put John Rauch in.

Recently, some legislator had Petrino's boss on the phone and was yelling at him & all he could do was listen, so the answer is yes.

Especially around here (it was an inside joke-Petrino's boss is named Aiken & I figured only he would understand it & the rest of you would be kind of perplexed)

I saw Carson's last game as Cleveland's head coach. I went on a Sunday/MNF trip that started in Cleveland where the Bills destroyed the Browns in their own stadium & by the time I got to Indianapolis for the Giants/Colts MNF game, Carson was fired.

Fire Mularkey and give him Aiken's job.

Or Not only are MM/TD detrimental to the team and Moulds, but they are detrimental to the fans that support the team as a result.

Same goes for Mike "Bullough" Mularkey. The young guys got rid of Hank too, before Marv took over after the loss in Tampa.

FFS: I hope you have to start pondering your next name in January.

Bring back Marvin Lewis for another interview.

If the Bills are losing Sunday , lets really send a message to Ralph. Home side chants "Fire Mularkey" Road side chants "Fire Donahoe" Mirror it after the "Tastes Great" "Less Filling" chants in other stadiums.

How about Jim Bates for Head Coach. He did a good job in Miami last year and has head coaching experience from his USFL days. If Ralph doesn't want to break the bank, but doesn't want to risk another rookie coach failure, Bates is the man.

The problem is you really can't fire Mularkey without firing Donahoe, because it can't be 3 strikes you're out on a GM who has bombed on 2 coaches in 2 tries. So. I'd fire Donahoe. Then I'd let the new GM fire Mularkey. I can't believe that I'm sick of both of them. Mularkey is turning on the players like he doesn't need them when he does. He has PO'd Adams, Moulds and JP. Holcomb's probably not too fond of him either.

Thanks for clearing it up & being on top of things on the board. I wish you'd start streaming again so I can listen more often than just home game weekends.

I received an e-mail from a friend in Depew who says that WGR is reporting that an unnamed source at OBD tells them Moulds is suspended. I'm not looking for the typical heresay jokes, I'm trying to confirm if anyone heard this on WGR.

The 1985 team had some pretty good players too & they were the worst team in the league. A year later the franchise QB arrived & we doubled our victory total to 4. I looked at an old program I have from the 1985 season and compiled this list The 1985 Bills included: Jerry Butler, Jim Ritcher, Joe Devlin, Andre Reed, Chris Burkett, Greg Bell, Joe Cribbs, Robb Riddick (IR),Pete Metzelaars, Frank Reich (IR) Fred Smerlas, Bruce Smith, Martin Bayless, Darryl Talley, Derrick Burroughs, That was 15 solid players, some before their peak years. They also had some players who were on the downside of good careers: Steve Freeman, Charles Romes, Will Grant, Eugene Marve, Jim Haslett, Lucious Sanford, Joe DeLamielleure, Ken Jones, Ben Williams. That's 24 decent players. Among them, there are 4 current Wall of Famers and at least 2 more. I'd say the team is in similar shape to the 1985 team-the big difference being that there's free agency today & you can fix a team a lot quicker.

He lost me at Jerry Gray deserving a head coaching job. I hope he gets the head coaching job he deserves-at an all girl high school.

Actually, his draft day maneuvers have not been a complete success. He would have been better off trading Manning before the Giants picked & trading the 4th pick down. If he had done it correctly, he'd have a guy who is contributing rather than a guy who is sitting on the bench waiting to be traded.

I still would have preferred that instead of Roscoe, TD had taken Adam Terry. He started at LT for Baltimore yesterday & had only 1 penalty & recovered a Boller fumble. Did anyone watch Hou/Balt who could give more info on how Terry looked?