Dibs

Scouts Inc.(ESPN) have him as a 3rd rounder. Super sleeper maybe??? From scouts Inc....

Actually, just after he says he says he is clearly trying to 'sell' & honestly, it was more that you took it all on board as fact about JP that got me.

I have read the full article & the concept of his system seems ridiculous. From all I've ever heard on the development of QBs, a lot of emphasis is placed on the pro system/ the speed increase of NFL/ maturity development of leadership/ etc etc. Basically there are a lot of factors which cannot be quantified in numerical statistics(or barely at most). To come out with a statistical theory predicting that accurately how someone will develop is..as I said...rediculous. If the article had said this new statistical analysis can help determine blah blah blah, I would not have a problem with it but to say JP is going to be a little better than one but notquite as good as another is...open to ridicule.

Thanks God that guy has come up with the 'system'. Now we never need pay a scout again to assess QBs. Oh happy day. I wonder if it will work on high schoolers too. We could draft directly from there & cut out all that pesky development stuff.

Your point on Nall backs up the possibility they will look in the draft. If Nall & JP havn't got it...like I said, a Pro bowl Qb is needed. The lines we have now are not the lines we will have in 2 years. Honestly, I don't see them as disasterous as most do...1 DT make the D-line respectable & 1 OT (& some luck) for the O-line. I know this comment will draw the ire of a lot but that's how I see it. Again, I'm not saying I think we will draft a QB at #8, I'm saying that if those conditions are in fact facts, I can see it is a possibility

If all the QBs are off the board.... Bush, Ferguson & Williams will be gone & the 9ers will leave us with either Hawk or Davis or we trade down.

I'm starting to think it is a good possibility we do take a QB at #8. If we take it as a given that very few teams win the Super bowl without a Pro bowl QB.... & Marv & Dick are not sold on the QBs we have.... & Marv intends on building this team within 3/4 years to be a contender(both he & RW are old in case you didn't know)... If we don't find a Franchise QB very soon...???....other positions take a lot less time to develop(usually). Given all that, I still don't expect them to draft one myself but I can see a logic if they do.

Sounds about right to me.

Your point is an example of what I meant by It all comes down to percentages. The earlier the pick, the more likely he will become a Pro bowl player. I won't bother researching bust names from high in previous drafts nor boom names from lower down....we all know this occurs, it's the frequency in which it occurs that is the issue. The 'Trade Value Chart' attempts to match the odds of getting a Pro bowl player at each pick by putting a numeric value to the pick. In a deep draft such as this, those numbers lower into the second & third rounds should be higher since the odds for a Pro bowler is assumed to be increased. Same with the top 8 if there are higher than average studs(which there are in this draft). Simply, I don't think we should throw away a potential handful of solid/Pro players for one potential Pro/solid player if the opportunity is there. It all comes down to percentages.

Um, am I too much a dummy to ask what SNL is?

Really? You honestly think the Seahawks were robbed? I thought they had a few bad calls against them but their play was not good at all. Oh well, it's not like it was an important game or anything...like a Bills game

Huh? The schedule is determined by a formula...it is predetermined & can't be modified by the NFL. Shhhh, don't tell anyone but the Seahaks lost SBXL because they were not the best team.

AAARRRGGGHHH.... For the 1pm games, I have to get up at 3am to listen on the net. (5am daylight savings time) I guess Bills fans are nuts.

Unless the Saints stuff it up or get an offer they can't refuse(trade out of top 4) I think your assumtion is a near certainty.

Um, yeah...what he said -typing as you posted-- I totally agree

My initial raction is to agree with you. What is emotionally very difficult to get past is the BIG names at the top of the draft...I mean, who doesn't want one of them over the next lot of (lesser) names. Surely however, it would come down to how much compensation we get for the trade down. It's a deep draft...could we pass up their #1,#2 & #3....what about their #1, #2 & #4? In the end, what does it matter if we get a rookie who can play right now or one who takes a year to develop? Who hear thinks an impact rookie will be the diffence between a loosing team & a playoff team?

Hmmm, is 'VIVE LA FRANCE, VIVE LA GUERRE' even French. He is certainly not in France(his user time is West coast U.S.A.) & his use of the English language though extraordinarily verbose seems un-French. No froggy would lower himself by using so many Anglican words when he could use a lot less....he would soil his tongue.

Not necessarily....I read this in the latest Scouts Inc. Mock Draft(today) "...unlike the Titans, the Jets are rumored to value QB Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt) over Young. They don't want to take Cutler this high, but they would consider it strongly if Bush, Leinart and Ferguson are gone by the fourth pick. " Mind you, what are the odds that Super Mario drops to #5?

I'm betting Leinart goes at No.2 Either the Jets trade up to get him(or a lower team...maybe?) or the Titans move up one to guarantee it. Certainly not set in stone in my mind.

Maybe you should put a paper bag on your head, then no one will recognize you.

Roscoe is gonna be great...a tonne more 'roids & he'll beef up just fine.

I don't believe it. Until it's reported on mass in the media I view it as rubbish. If all we get is a 5th then good WRs must be far more common than I thought. I agree with that other post saying that this trade has been very secretive....let's wait & see.

No. Chiefs do pick 20 but that is their true draft order pick. Must be a typo. 1st round: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2278820

Gone by #5:- Bush Leinhart Williams D'Brick It's all guessing but I would think most would be surprised if this were not the case. From all reports, these four are a cut above the rest. But hey, the draft has surprises every year.

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