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peters reminds me of another tackle, but on the D side. sean gilbert. sean was an oft injured malcontent who commanded a retarded contract. after one or two seasons of albert haynesworth level domination, he was always hurt and pretty useless. big fat half retarded man children fail much much more often than they succeed. sam adams, who was ten times the pro gilbert was, has had an issue with being lazy and unmotivated on every team he's been on. peters, who i'd like to play like he did in 07 and be a great guy for us, seems way closer to gilbert than sam adams.

plenty (most prolly) guys in the nfl are on juice. if our coaches see maybin as being the most disruptive pass rusher, then he is a good pick at 11. if we can get our sack number up around 40 i think we will have a top 5-8 D and plenty more short fields and turnovers for our all of a sudden hard to stop O.

LOLOLOL!!!! you are the worst bills poster i've ever seen! you went on and on and on about how jp losman is good or will be good, do you remember that? hahaha. you labills, and ramius all argued with me over jp, and now you kneel.

johnsons big problem was being a china doll. he had skills and athleticism. ultimately both failed, and moulds made them both look better than they ever were, but rj did go on to win tb two critical games on their way to a superbowl, including an epic monday night win, while flutie went on a 9 game losing streak and was one lucky missed fg against the bills from an 11 game losing streak. flutie fans are sub human and i suspect most losman fans were flutie fans. flutie and rj are head and shoulders above jp, who is the worst qb to ever get 30 starts in nfl history.

maybin has super long arms, an explosive first step, and is very very quick to react off the snap. he's got the base ingredients to rush the passer. not saying he is for certain the best guy at it this draft, but i won't be mad if we get him at 11.

imo peters has sick rare talent and the tools to dominate. he is also inconsistent and gets banged up a bit. i consider the oline very important AS A UNIT, not as a collection of individual great players (like the dline is). we need a very good overall o line to dominate in the nfl. having a strong left tackle is important for that, but not crucial like having a pass rusher is on D. so we need an LT, and one is hard to get, but the best LT only does what a good LT does on the vast majority of plays, his job is to stop bad things from happening more than it is to make plays happen. so i'd be happy to sign peters IF he plays up to his talent and is consistent and plays hard. i'd also be happy to trade him for good value if we have a guy who can play there. we've had teague, gandy, jennings, williams, peters and walker as our tackles in the past few years. better blocking is always better, but it's not like peters has resulted is strikingly better (or even slightly better) O than the other guys. it's not quarterback, so it isn't an absolute, we have to look at our line as a unit, not as individuals, so keeping peters or not depends on who else we got.

bill, are you saying you would trade him for 2 late firsts, or 2 firsts and a 3rd? i think we trade him if he is going to be too hard to sign and we have a decent alternative. i don't think you need to drop a ton on a LT, a very good one helps but with blitzes being fairly common and defenders fast to stop the run, you need several good OL rather than one or two great and any scrub in the other positions.

i dunno, kelsey and denny are DEs who at times look very good, they both lack a quick first step and that's why they are sht at rushing the passer. a quick first step is for a pass rusher is like a jump shot for a swing man in basketball, it is the basis of his entire game. i am willing to overlook lots of short comings if we draft a guy who can get off the ball and cause some disruption. a healthy aaron and some kind of rotation of anyone else in our front 4 would really really help our d

we are really gonna see the kind of ability that evans has now. if owens gives us 7 in the box and two guys who warrant a double team, then our two rbs are gonna run rough shot over the nfl. one thing is we were able to run very effectively against the 3-4, but passed poorly. this could be just what we need!

how do u know it's donte?

he's a little slight, but if he gets after it i'd say that's very good for us. if we add a good passrusher (maybin!!) then that might help us out.

if maybin is the guy who can best rush the passer then who here would be against maybin? remember when suggs stank in the draft? he was so incomplete they only let him rush the passer on like 1 in 5 plays in his rookie year. i'd hate a guy like that, because our d gets so many sacks, and we can just find a pass rusher on the street.

dock had a shedload of ability and very little heart, like a few other texas products.

dude, a single position interior lineman is a big liability if people go down. most teams have 7 linemen for the o all season, and at least one back up has to be a tackle, which means you want AT LEAST 2 guys who can play 3+ positions each.

without knowing much, i will point out that o linemen are not pitchers, they don't stand out there alone and have to fit together. if the bills ink up peters for big cash, they will be saying they want uber tackles, and solid hard working guards, not a talented heart short guy like dock at G.

this was a last stab at something trade -- no way would we be shopping a guy and be willing to pay the roster bone, so our counterparties knew he would be available without a trade, so it would only be for small value.

the young guy they have in kc looked very good himself, without moss and welker. i really think (like anderson in cle) that cassel might struggle and due to having virtually now starting experience fall apart on a weak kc team. i hope kc crashes and burns, and new england dies of aids.

could they really trade the 3rd overall for matt cassel? that would be insane and horrible.

this is exactly right. now, there were no deadlines here. dock didn't have to be cut before any given date, so it's not like the bills didn't get the paper work in in time. there was no deadline. i think dock might not have liked the lions, so disagreed on a new contract, so the bills just let him go.

if maybin is the most gifted pure edge rusher then he would be a great pick at 11. some would say it was a reach, but they said that about dwight freeney at around the same spot. an edge rusher is the difference between our d and a top 5 or 10 d

STOP THE HYSTERIA!! no one is saying for the bills to sign a corner for 15 bucks a year, but you did say to pay some over 30 center 12 bucks. you just have way too much infatuation for oline. they are important as a unit, but as individuals they are much much less so. the bottom line is a team needs several good corners, one corner going down in a game can mean larry fitz open for 6 3 times in a quarter.

you are just way out of touch bill. no one is talking about the bills paying any corner 15 bucks a year, this is a discussion about the relative value of secondary vs interior line. to the other poster above me -- yeah a close to/hall of fame c is better than a slightly above average corner, sure. the difference is that a good young cb, not even the best, is worth much more than a very good C. the least talented o line position is C, it always has been. many Cs cannot play any other position on the line. every single team shows you that the C is a low pick kind of position, and doesn't warrent big contracts. every single team also pays and bids huge for good corners and drafts them high. is it so hard for you to understand that corners are more valuable than centers?

pettigrew (assuming he has a pretty good pro day) is rated top 10 in terms of talent by several guys. if he's a top 5 te in the nfl he is totally worth the 11th.

on a per man basis the defensive secondary and particularly corners are more important than the oline. while lt requires a rare kind of athlete, a slight deficit in lt play will cause some trouble (like gandy, or even the not so great lt on pitts) for the o. a slight deficit in corner play will result in break away touchdowns. there's a reason why no on will pay that much for even the best C, but will pay it for even just good but not great corners (near pro bowl/pro bowl corners get 10 a year, good ones get 6-9). that's the way it is bill, all nfl gms are big on spending high picks on secondary, that's how it's done.

i'd give him the ball, maybe roll him out for a few screens as well.