colin

you don't actually think you are disproving my statement do you? the majority of desirabel jobs tend to require or strongly favor a 4 year degree. that along with the subsidies has produced a whole lot of education with a very small amount of actual learning and meaningful study.

exactly. if the game mattered they wouldn't let the ref just make up how long extra time is.

you called me ignorant, stupid, and brainwashed and showed you were incapable of refuting any of my points (YOU ACTUALY SAID SOCCER REQUIRES GREAT HAND EYE COORDINATION AND IS A POWER SPORT) before i returned the favor. i think soccer is great, it gives children an outlet to run around and burn energy, and helps keep some kinda butch girls thinner. it's like blocks mixed with hop scotch and diet pills. and why do you want me to be mad about highlights on sports center? i'm happy that you can drive home in your prious and sit cross legged on your peach and birch hemp couch while the kick ball highlights come one. i heard that a small scrawny euro kicked the ball! that must have rocked!

it's not a sport if it takes more than 1 day or you can be served drinks while playing.

LOLOL!!!!!!

garbage you sensitive nancy. soccer players pretend like they've been sniped every time actual physical contact occurs. they do not take constant hits, they are not tough intimidators, they are scrawny little runners who kick a ball around and almost never in the net as the game does not reward aggressive action. soccer is an endurance sport. soccer players are small. they are fast compared to normal men or slow athletes but slow compared to very very fast athletes like say nfl corner backs (and even some linebackers, how average 50-75 pounds more in weight than a pro soccer player). soccer does not require the very rare athletic traits of true explosiveness, super sturdy physical frames, power and toughness. soccer OBVIOUSLY does not require hand eye coordination. for christ's sake most of the players are forbiden to use their damn hands. goalies just have to stop the ball, that doesn't require much hand eye coordination beyond getting an arm out in time. you are a self deluded sissy for trying to prove how soccer is a power sport by saying i can't kick the kick ball or run past the little shorts wearing soccer man. of course i can't i'm a man not a soccer player. in soccer you might get torched by a great player, and he will run around you and put the kick ball in the laughably enormous net. in football you will be mashed into the ground, have the ball ripped from your limbs, and have to get back up to do it all over again. the corner backs in the nfl possess true rare athletic talent. that kind of speed and agility is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE with non stop endurance running that your favorite little kick ball euros do every damn day. linemen clearly posses extreme strength and size. you can walk allover a big city and not see a single man with the frame to even begin to play in the nfl as a pro lineman. soccer is a simple little sport. how many pages in a pro team's playbook? THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE REAL PLAYBOOKS! if an nfl player lines up in the wrong spot or makes the wrong read before the snap then horrible things occur. strategy is a huge part of real sports, but not soccer. soccer is great if you want to dance around with a ball at your feet and kick it around a giant field with nearly zero friggen scoring all day. if you think a real man should have the upperbody strength of an aids patient then soccer is manly. if you stand up to pee on occasion and realise fighting through pain in a demanding sport where giant powerhouses get hurt or even crippled is the true pinnacle of team sports then clearly you will pass soccer in favor of football. soccer may be the most popular team sport in the world, but abject poverty and squaller are the most popular financial situation and living conditions in the world as well. you're an american you should aim for better than that.

i'm sorry ma'am, are you the captainette of your soccer team? can you somehow show that any of the things i said aren't true? do you really think soccer players show strong hand eye coordintation? do you consider them powerful?

soccer is a niche sport in the usa. it is popular overall because little kids and girls play it. the us women's team is one of the best in the world -- this is because girls don't bother to play sports in most the places where soccer is popular. it might be growing, but it's not the explosive growth MMA is experiencing world wide. soccer is a simple game that doesn't possess any of the traits that we tend to love in our sports. no size strength or extreme speed. no hand eye co-ordination at all, no power and explosiveness. it is very low on strategy compared to the big 4 teams sports. soccer is a simple little poor person game that has sort of reached its limit. it is exactly the game you see in the UEFA championships and so on, very few chances to score, skilled players without much opportunity to make a large impact on the game, and there is no where for the game to change. football is an example of the highest level of sports. it requires immense strategy, officiating and complicated rules, specialized positions and important compliments of individual player skills with one another. it also requires more dedication than any other team sport to be played on a high level. pain, injury, suffering, intimidation, speed, explosiveness, power, determination, strategy, teamwork, dedication -- these are the attributes that football and football players live by. the nfl and other levels of football have had subtle but significant changes in rules over the years. the nfl is a great mix of tradition and change. hockey is down and kinda going sideways. it had a hot period but the nhl pissed away a good opportunity. imo with HD hockey could be really good on tv if they put in some of the great cameras the nfl has worked with, but it is too small potatos right now. baseball has strong regional support but is fairly tapped out wrt growth. basketball (while the nba has been suffering lately) is a growth sport particularly in asia. soccer really is a novelty in america -- it is interesting that millions of brazillians and unwashed eurotrash get worked up over a kickball game where skinny androgynous men pass about a little ball with little or no scoring while the ref arbitrarily determines how much time the game should be played for.

i explained this above, a degree has widely become the minimum requirement for the majority of desirable jobs.

my point is that kids NEED to go to school, but don't have the chops for hard majors (or as it should be a truely well rounded university education) so you get massive humanities departments and people end up with 4 year majors in transgendered african american studies. so the subsidies = too much and much worse.

IN COVERAGE YES BILLIAM!!!! DAMNIT WE GOT SOME BIG STUD LB'S AND LINEMEN, CAN'T YOU BE HAPPY!! you need tolerance training for corners and cover guys bill. they are important parts of the team!

like the giants? they don't draft any high o linemen and spent some big picks on corners last year. YOU NEED 12 STEPS BILL!!!!!111 i'll sponser you!

i don't know if i'd call him an underdog. i think he'll make the team and play special teams and be put in in certain situations. just because he wasn't drafted doesn't mean the fo doesn't have a good idea of what to do with him. using him to mash into a target guy (smallish lb is good) early might pay dividends later on in the 4th on 3rd and short.

mckelvin by far imo. in a draft with what 5 first round corners and 10 or so (more) in the first 100 picks mckelvin is the stand up top dog. if he could catch like donte hall he'd have been a top 5 guy. clements was the first db taken at like 21 or something to us. there were a few taken by then this year.

obviously you are wrong. don't you read the board? all that matters is having big fat linemen. you can put steven hawkings at qb and gore vidal at running back and convert 3rd and 4 with up the gut runs if you have a good line --- and anything else is garbage. of the playoff teams 100% spent every single pick on a lineman, and they carry at least 15 of them into the season, and no corners. also the back up LT is more important the who ever is covering randy moss.

jesus dude. you and bill should start watching team sumo instead of football, you just want to watch fat guys slap bellies. you guys B word about not getting a new back up LT with draft picks?!?!?! wtf?!?!?! the oline let up the fewest sacks in team history. we let ne throw for 9TDs on us, but you want to improve our blocking? how many stars do the giants have on their o line? zero, they are all scrubs. they won because ther are 17 other starters on the team and the oline isn't everything. yes we have done a bad job drafting o line. all that matters is who is on your team, we have a stud LT (best in afc, pro bowler) a good RT and a very good LG. our young RG is decent too. thin at center, but otherwise we have a very good line. saying we should have addressed back ups over our dbs or drafting corner is idiotic really is silly. our corners were bad last year, we are upgrading. there's more to football that big fat guys.

there's gonna be a lotta high kicks to the chest this year!

i'm simply stating that history and the general humanities (in the large quantity and low academic quality level they are studied at now) are bullsh1t bird courses and everyone who did a real major at a real school breezed through some soc or hist 101 course and giggled that it was such a joke. the thing is the market will determine the cost and quantity to be traded of humanities and all other educations. the problem is we have some massively disruptive forces (which i'll call employers requiring a degree where none is actually necessary [which is essentially employers off loading their screening and training to institutions that really shouldn't be doing that] and the massive subsidy in education) that throw off the quantity (up) and the quality (way down) of education (in terms of dollars, years, courses, schools, and subjects). i hope the subsidy is backed off in a huge way as a poster above has mentioned. we have thousands of kids spending hundreds of millions of dollars on second rate garbage majors just so they can get a job doing whatever.

looks bad but there's a chance he shot the guy legally in self defense.

for the record trent was good for a rook and ok overall. strong improvement is clearly needed. he did out play jp tho (not saying much at all). i don't know anyone who's affraid of jp losman competing for the job. and la, you are just a little priss. you said you are done with me, but have to come back and make a silly comment that has nothing to do with the debate at hand. i think you just want to pimp your hero and get the last word in.

do we really need a government subsidized student loan industry for kids to drink and study history? does the world need more history majors? education subsidies don't make education better as much as they make it much more expensive and spread it thinner.

did it look like jp didn't suck? did it look like jp didn't lose the starters job, get it back, and then lose it again? who looked like the starter at the end of the year? to you anyway.

so he didn't lose the starting job to a rookie playing with the exact same guys!! wow, you and 1bills are the best pretend fans ever! who is gonna win the pretend superbowl?

he won the starting job that losman lost. he also won more games. keep in mind the weather impact on the numbers -- you can see how much they affected opposing qbs. the first line explains everything you need to know tho.

high profile = pros people know about today. the HOF hockey player would fit that bill a few decades ago, and the other names are fine, but i figured there'd be more of them