DrDawkinstein

I only do this for PTI which is the one and only "duo-ing talking heads" show that is needed. Everyone else can gtfo. edit: Just watched the clip in the OP. That was the most obnoxious 1min13sec I've ever seen out of this duo. The talking over each other while arguing nothing. Are they not in the same room? Seemed like both of them could use a vacation. Awkward at the end. Looks like Florio and Simms have a worse relationship than Josh and Diggs ever had!

Yeah I dont disagree. And I dont think it will happen either. But it's fun to come up with the possibilities and post about in April.

Name the QBs all those guys went to.

Ah yes, the infamous "3rd down" game against the Eagles. Broadcast Bias. He played 87 out of 95 snaps in that game. He took some breathers. A couple of them were on 3rd down, and they happen to be when Nantz noticed and pointed out he wasnt on the field. It actually only happened like twice. Time it? He doesnt know what plays Brady is calling ahead of time. Or if the 2nd down play is going to pick up the 1st or not. Look, I'm not going to argue every gripe against the guy. I just think it's a bit ridiculous and unfair (and a bad look for the Mafia) to have fans bashing him on his way out like he had anything but an overall positive contribution to the team the entire time he was here. Ups and downs, sure. The Bills had Stef Diggs from 2020 to 2024 and he directly made them much better during that entire time.

So he's gone due to performance, and all the sideline/off field/twitter stuff you mentioned really didnt matter? Which is it? He fought for yards PLENTY of times. Any time it mattered. Close to getting a 1st down, or fighting through 5 tackles to break away for a TD like against Miami last year. When you already have the 1st down and a Safety is bearing down on you, better to get down, control the contact, and live to fight another day.

Those years/that money doesnt really exist if it isnt guaranteed. Teams know this. Diggs knows this. Now he doesnt have to wait around to be released. He can hit the ground running as a FA. Probably wont get that much, but he also knows he wasnt going to see those years with the Bills or Texans either.

Agreed it will be tough for him to find that same amount of salary. But the big thing for Diggs is he gets to be in complete control of his destiny for the first time in his career. If he wants to take less to play with a certain team, he can. Trying to get a trade offer finally doesnt play a factor.

He didnt void any guaranteed money? The $3M in guaranteed money left got moved up to this year.

Do you think Da'Rick is aware he forever lives on as a legend/meme among a subset of Bills fans?

Sounds perfect for New England.

Nah, I still wouldve taken a lot more Diggses...es on the 2020-2022 Bills. He was great while he was here, until he wasnt. All that stuff doesnt change that. He just didnt get along with the boss in the long run. Ha! I think Dallas makes a lot more sense, but anything is possible.

Sounds like it was on Diggs and his agent to bring the Bills an acceptable offer and he got to choose which team.

Makes sense, lol

The difference now is the Vikings arent paying a QB a ton of money, and are looking to draft one. So that money is going to go to Jefferson, and they'll have the QB on a rookie contract. The Vikings are interesting tho, because is they move up to #5 to get a QB then I think the Bills could swing a deal with the Giants to get to #6 and grab Nabers.

To me, this list mostly illustrates that QBs make the WR draft picks. The ones who made it were the ones with the good/great QBs. The busts are a lot of Cleveland, Atlanta, Jets... With Josh at QB, whatever we invest in getting him better WR talent will see greater returns.

If the Vikings convince the Chargers to trade out of #5 (and the Chargers should be easily convinced), then the Bills should pull the trigger on trading up with the Giants to 6 and get Nabers. All for it. Giants should be into it since it gives them another 1st for next year when they will be in the QB market after they get out of Jones contract at the end of this season.

"Rex Ryan liked this tweet" Josh: WTF man?!

Diggs to Cowboys in 2025, for sure. Wonder how low he'll sign for there.

His behavior was the least of it. He's a 31 (going to be 32) year old WR with a big contract on the downslide of his career. Compared to what other teams got in trade for their WRs, we did well. If an NFC team was offering a 4th, like what the Chargers got for Allen, then I'll take the 2nd in-Conference.

Great point. How could we forget...

Kelly and Reed were both way bigger sluts. No need to blame her for two grown men acting like children.

Andre Reed and Jim Kelly got into a fist fight over Laurie Lisowski.

Did you not follow the Eagles and all the drama around AJ Brown vs Coaching this year? Huge drama there during their meltdown, with Brown being the loudest voice in the media. Amari Cooper was well documented for his lack of effort when he was unhappy in Dallas, and missing too many games for his anti-vax status. A lot of the guys you listed are too young (being on rookie contracts) to open their dramatic sides, or on teams exceeding/meeting expectations so nothing to be dramatic about yet. But if the Lions start slipping, a fiery guy like Amon St Brown will absolutely fly off the handle. Hill has the worst drama of all, albeit mostly off field. But he doesnt have to complain about not getting paid because of Waddle since it will likely be the other way around, and Waddle will have to go elsewhere since they are paying Hill. But guarantee if his role was reduced he'd be pissed and loud about it. edit: Regarding AJ Brown... https://theathletic.com/5177721/2024/01/04/aj-brown-eagles-frustrations/ "Players have been working on managing their emotions, too. It was Brown’s declining to speak to the media following the Giants game that initially sparked speculation regarding his frustration. “I was raised if I had nothing nice to say, I’m not going to say nothing at all,” he told reporters. It was a cryptic response that begged a question that wasn’t answered until Wednesday: What was it that Brown had nothing nice to say about?... ...But Brown apologized to his teammates during a team meeting Wednesday morning for placing them in a situation where they had to cover for him." Refusing to speak to the media, "cryptic" messages, and having to apologize to team mates?!? Classic WR.

I mean, I dont necessarily disagree with your point but WRs have been like this for a long time. Andre Reed was a known malcontent and chirper. Keyshawn Johnson was a thing. Randy Moss was Randy Moss. Isaac Bruce was well known for his sideline blowups in St Louis in the late 90s. Larry Fitzgerald was more an aberration. But even with Fitz, watching Kurt Warners' "A Football Life", Warner had to light a fire under Fitzgerald just to get him to practice hard or train in the offseason which he thought he was too good for early in his career. I expect our next #1 WR to have a similar attitude. So should Josh.

I never said Diggs wasnt a problem. But Diggs' problems have been more with coaching both times. Zimmer and McD are very similar in many ways. Separately, there is another discussion and point about how Josh's feelings and how he handles diva WRs which is what this thread is discussing.