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Alright lets get to the picks Goddell this day is long enough where I want to take a nap by the end.
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3 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
His strengths, from NFL Draft Buzz, seem to indicate he is not a "horrendous athlete" or "not a very good football player"
--Rare blend of mass and mobility for his size - shows shocking lateral quickness when working down the line and can change direction without losing power or balance
--Natural power to stack and shed single blocks in the run game, using his 6'7" frame and heavy hands to control offensive linemen before violently disengaging
--Creates instant interior push with his bull rush, showing the ability to walk back centers and guards while keeping his feet churning through contact
--Surprising short-area quickness allows him to shoot gaps and disrupt plays in the backfield before blockers can properly engage
--Strong upper body and active hands help him defeat blocks both as a run defender and pass rusher - has shown an effective swim move
--Takes away multiple gaps with his sheer size and length, forcing runners to bounce outside where his deceptive mobility allows him to make plays
--Shows flashes of dominant potential when fresh, with the raw power to simply overwhelm offensive linemen who don't match his physical traits
--Three-year starter in the SEC who has proven he can hold up against elite competition while facing constant double teams
And to be even handed, what they consider his weaknesses:
--Conditioning is a major concern - tends to wear down quickly and becomes much less effective in longer drives or when asked to chase plays
--Consistently plays with high pad level, negating his natural power and making him vulnerable against double teams and combo blocks
--Initial burst off the snap is inconsistent, sometimes appearing sluggish and allowing offensive linemen to establish position before he's fully engaged
--Hand placement in pass rush needs refinement - too often makes contact without a clear plan, leading to stalemates even against single blocks
--Motor runs hot and cold throughout games, showing concerning lapses in effort when fatigued or trailing offensive plays
Glad you posted that, so that I went to find out more about what others say.
The strengths listed really contradict the horrible athlete thing and how poor of a football player he is.
While the weak areas are much less significant, and are things the can be fixed with coaching and mentors..
He certainly seems like the kind of player that McBeane may think they can do very good things with..
Deone Walker is on my do not draft list-
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1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:
I’d like to add that you might end up retail shopping if you recite our draft picks backwards.
Y’know, you might… Landon TJ Max.
I’ll see myself out.
I laughed with a so stupid behind it-
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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:
I trade Cook after the draft. Bit we NEED one of those WR.
I don’t disagree with the WR at all and believe we will take 1 and maybe 2 here on Day 3. I don’t think a Cook trade is in play. I think he’s here next year. Cook holding out half the year would only damage his value in Free Agency. If he wants the huge bag from the Bills or another team he’s going to have to do it again for another season-
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7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Isaiah Bond^, WR, Texas
2. Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado
3. Cam Williams, OT, Texas
4. Bradyn Swinson, DE, LSU
5. Marcus Mbow, IOL, Purdue
6. Elic Ayomanor, WR, Stanford
7. Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State
8. Jack Sawyer, DE, Ohio State
9. Cam Skattebo, RB, Arizona
10. Zy Alexander, CB, LSU
11. CJ West, DT, Indiana
12. Josh Farmer, DT, Florida State
13. DJ Giddens, RB, Kansas State
14. Kyle Kennard, DE, South Carolina
15. Dylan Sampson, RB, Tennessee
To me if your going to add a weapon at RB it has to be a game breaker type that has Teams capabilities. That is either Brashard Smith or Jaydon Blue. If you take one your pushing Johnson off the roster or hoping your guy can get on the PS-
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Just now, bobobonators said:
The league is littered with really good WR and DB who were taken rounds 4-5.
4 and 5 should be used for a WR and DB in whatever order is best.
Im always hesitant to see the Bills give up day 3 picks because this is where they thrive-
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Just now, whorlnut said:
It’s an issue that we lack speed on offense too. Other than cook, who else puts fear into defenses in that respect?
Josh Allen, our offensive line , Cook I think are the things teams prep for and fear on offense. The Bills have made a nice transition to being a physical football team on offense and now they are trying to match that on defense.
We do need a speed WR and we will probably take one in the 4th but I don’t expect whoever we take by now to be a starter or a guy who will be in a heavy rotation year 1 and teams sure won’t fear the 4th round rookie
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I think it depends on how many picks we keep but I do think next is WR and then we are headed back to the defensive side of the ball after that to add a LB and either another CB or S as two of the other picks. Besides WR, it’s really TE3 and maybe Guard on offense unless you want to take a developmental QB but I’m not sure if this is the year to do it.
The vast majority of the focus should be continuing to get younger and faster on this defense
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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I've just posted by day two debrief. I think one of the vertical outside receivers with speed - Royals, Horton, Thornton - with a trade up would be my preference to start day 3. I still think that element is missing from our offense. And while those guys (maybe less so Royals actually) are probably not down in and down out starters, having that option for Josh within our rotation would be nice.
Otherwise I think linebacker looks like a spot with some value mid 4th through to late 5th and if we are sitting and picking I expect at least one of those picks to go at the spot and another corner to come off the board somewhere - possibly a guy they think can backup / eventually succeed Taron in the slot?
Yea I think Horton fits the bigger WR profile the Bills like. Can’t believe he played 5 seasons in college and is only 22I know Bills fans are hoping, would you consider Dolac at 132 or would you be more of the thought of one of those 5ths if they decide he’s a guy they like enough. I think we both prefer either Paul or Teddye
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3 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Jackson did do his agility testing at his pro day. He had a pretty good 7.15 three cone which I think you can see decent bend for his size around the edge. His shuttle was not very good though and is definitely mostly a vertical athlete.Im very hopeful that we move up early in round 4 for a WR. In addition to the three you mentioned, I also like Ayomanor a lot. If we miss out on those 4, I’d be very disappointed and turn my attention to Elijhah Badger. Once we get that WR, then everything else is just gravy in my book.
Yea I’m hoping a guy like Horton or Royals slips down far enough that we can pull a Shakir type move and go get a guy to help this team down the line. Remember it basically took Shakir until year 2 to show something and year 3 was the breakout so don’t expect any WR we draft to be a big part of the plan next year-
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I do expect it to be the next pick for the Bills but I do expect them to trade up if they can make it happen. I think they'll move up into the 115's by giving away one of their 5th round picks.
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I think the only thing we are guaranteed of taking on Day 3 is a WR. Beyond that the other 6 picks(or less if traded) could be a wide variety of BPA.
Yea we can look at the roster and say TE, OG, 1T, LB, S, and maybe another CB would make sense but I dont think any of these positions are a guarantee per say to be selected.
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Alright so I added Josh Farmer to appease the masses, also added LB Cody Lindenberg from Minnesota and CB Alijah Huzzie from North Carolina who were late zoom meetings with the Bills.
My Own Personal Favorites on this list:
Jalen Royals WR Utah State
Tory Horton WR Colorado State
Bradyn Swinson DE LSU
Ty Robinson DT Nebraska
Nash Hutmacher DT Nebraska
Teddye Buchannan LB Cal
Shaun Dolac LB Buffalo
Dorian Strong CB Virginia Tech
Robert Longerbeam CB Rutgers
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26 minutes ago, BlueRed said:
Thanks gonzo, this is helpful to visualize!
Not a need, but I wouldn’t mind spending one of the 6th round picks on QB Will Howard or Kyle McCord, if available. I don’t think they’ll be anything special but it would be nice to have 4 years of a cheap cost controlled QB2.
Yea I think if there is a QB they feel they could sneak onto the PS and develop they could take a shot there late in the draft. There have been quite a few go off the board already but my next highest guy is Kyle McCord outside of Sanders of course who they won’t touch I would guess4 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:7 picks left on Day 3.
Like many have suggested, we can address depth at a few positions. WR TE 1Tech RB LB P
After Bringing in 3 athletic defensive pieces who will contribute early. I’m totally cool with adding depth now.
If they want to move at all, they’ve got the ammo:
#132 (18)
#169 (9)
#170 (9)
#173 (8)
#177 (8)
#206 (4)
#240 (1)
FWIW…top of R4 is valued at 33 points, so they can get there if they want it.
I think if someone is willing the Bills would move up in the 4th for one of their 5ths. Not sure they would sacrifice two. One 5th I believe gets them up around 115 so they can maneuver for another guy they really like-
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Just to say.... we had Hairston and Jackson to the Bills here. Jackson admittedly we had at the first 2nd rounder that became TJ Sanders in a trade up in reality, rather than the second 2nd rounder that became the 3rd we used on Jackson.
But still decent effort.
We also did mention TJ Sanders as a possibility as well at one of our picks. A strong 2/3 prediction performance and the 3rd being mentioned extensively is good for a debut in my opinion. What do you have for round 4? -
59 minutes ago, TPS said:
@gonzo1105 I thought they met with DT Farmer, no?
Thanks for putting the list together.
I didn’t include combine interviews because their too informal to make any judgement on or pro days because those are too broad and they could be there for multiple people. These are guys they met with on zoom, held personal workouts with, had multiple interactions with(I suppose that includes Farmer) , or had in for a 30 visit . I’ll add Farmer even though it personally disgusts me to do so lol-
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4 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:
Knox is a decent blocker who is forced to block more than he should have to because Kincaid isn't a plus blocker. Quentin Morris is gone. Davidson can't block and really shown anything to say he has upside to be anything other than what he is. Need to draft someone like Mitchell Evans who has the ability to be a complete TE or someone like CJ Dippre who right now is just a plus blocker, which at least brings a different skillset.
I have no knowledge that the Bills met with him but I really like Jackson Hawes late in this draft as a guy who can replace Reggie Gilliam and be our 3rd TE. Not much of a pass catcher but the man can block and think he can be versatile enough to play STs. Bills want to be a physical running team at times a guy like Hawes will help-
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5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Yea I hear you
I'm going to watch a few guys but Matt Ponatoski is a rising QB from the East Coast starting to get high major buzz and he's still undecided but he has a live arm
and I think Pennsylvania Ohio area is a really underrated area for football players
Doesn't get the love it could
Obviously Texas Florida Georgia California are the Kings... But Louisiana , DMV area, Carolinas and Ohio Pennsylvania have a lot of great talent.. then add Alabama, Mississippi
The amount of high school football talent in this country is insane
I was in Western PA for a couple of years. Scouted the WPIAL especially really hard but all of PA, NY, NJ, MD was an area for me and I agree that those states have a lot of football talent-
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I hear you i get it
It's nearly impossible for a man with a family
Yup I actually was long distance from my wife for a couple years but I’m near 40 and this was when I was 30-35 and I wanted to have a child so I took the regular man’s job and let her be the bread winner which I have zero shame in
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I've been a scout on the road for the high school circuit the last 9 years
I'll be at the elite 11 east coast camp next month in Ohio
Do you still do the circuit?
Nah man I’ve been out of the game for a bit now. My wife makes way too much money to be moving her around the country with the turnover in college ball for not great pay and long hours in the office away from the family. Still love watching tape though and obviously giving my opinions haha-
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15 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:
Also if they have a preference for blue cheese, or ranch.
Do you want me to give the standard answer or the truth? haha
8 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said:Organize it by round and make it color coded
I organized it by position, you will like it the way it is haha
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3 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Can you add when these guys are projected to go?
And don’t act like you don’t know
Haha putting me out there right now. Sure I'll give it my best shot for you. @GunnerBill can also chime in if he disagrees with any of my sentiments.
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18 minutes ago, NickelCity said:
You think they're hunting for a developmental TE prospect eh? Which comments led you to that? I'm not doubting, I'm just out of the loop. I like Davidson as a pass catching TE prospect. I wouldn't have thought it was a target in the draft.
I don't really have much besides gut feeling. The only TE we know of that they met with was Thomas Fidone from Nebraska but I have to assume they want to add competition for Davidson at least for a roster spot and its a possibility that Knox with his large salary could be a cap casualty after this year or somewhere down the road. I do think its a possibility but not a lock for sure.
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As you can see by the Bills first 3 visits, each one of them was here for a 30 visit and they had multiple meetings with the Bills before they were selected. This is by no means obviously a guarantee that any of the remaining 7 picks will be on this list but with their history I think its likely at least some of these picks come from this list. I think we can safely eliminate the Kickers so we're looking at a list of 37 players that we have had serious interaction with left in this draft which clearly means a lot to the Bills.
2.WR Isaiah Bond Texas (Highly Unlikely) (30 Visit) Round 7/UDFA
10.WR Da'Quan Felton Virginia Tech (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-7
11.WR Landon Parker Troy (Zoom Meeting) Round 7/UDFA
12.WR Will Sheppard Colorado (Zoom Meeting) Round 7/UDFA
13.TE Thomas Fidone Nebraska (Private Workout) Round 5-6
14. OT Jared Penning Northern Iowa (Zoom Meeting) Round 7/UDFA
19. DT Nash Hutmacher Nebraska (Private Workout) Round 5-6
20. DT Tommy Akingbesote Maryland (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-UDFA
21. DT Zeek Biggers Georgia Tech (Zoom Meeting) Round 5-7
22. DT Omari Thomas Tennessee (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-UDFA
25. LB Chandler Martin Memphis (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-UDFA
26. LB Shaun Dolac Buffalo (Local Pro Day) Round 5-6
27. LB Marlowe Wax Syracuse (Local Pro Day) Round 7/UDFA
29. LB Cody Lindenberg Minnesota (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-UDFA
31. CB B.J Adams UCF (Zoom Meeting) Round 6-UDFA
32. CB Robert Longerbeam Rutgers (Zoom Meeting) Round 5-6
33. CB Alijah Huzzie North Carolina (Zoom Meeting) Round 5-7
35. S Alijah Clark Syracuse (Multiple Non 30 Visit) Round 6-UDFA
36. S Donovan McMillian Pitt (Local Pro Day) Round 6- UDFA
37. K Ryan Fitzgerald Florida State (Zoom Meeting) Round 6- UDFA
38. K Ben Sauls Pitt (Local Pro Day) Round 6- UDFA
39. P Alex Mastramano (Zoom Meeting) Round 6- UDFA
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Posted · Edited by gonzo1105
Surprised that the Titans have literally done nothing to help Ward out in year 1 so far. Gotta be an offensive pick you think here.
Forgot we essentially gave back Chicago their pick to trade up to 41