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10 minutes ago, Logic said:
I've been one of the loudest "we need more WRs" voices the past couple seasons, but I respected Beane's demeanor and insistence here. It was certainly not his typical disposition on display.
I think the WR questions in the post-draft presser kinda caught him off guard, and then he happened to tune into the WGR show today right at the point where they were harping on the WR thing, and he just said "enough is enough". I bet if you gave him 10 minutes to take a deep breath and think about it before he want on air, he would've handled it a little bit differently. But...these guys are human, and I don't blame him for speaking the way he did. It also wasn't as severe as people are saying. Mostly I think people are just over-reacting to him using the word "bitching".
I can't argue much with what Beane said specifically: He can understand why people asked the WR question BEFORE last season, but after scoring more points than any other team in the NFL last season, the fan angst about WRs seems a bit misplaced. I also thought Beane's recent statement that it wasn't the offense letting them down in the playoffs, it was the defense (well, he didn't say the latter part, but it was implied) was on point.
I want another WR, too, but the fan angst about WRs HAS gotten out of hand in my opinion. You can tell the hosts were caught off guard and were not expecting any pushback. The way they went to commercial after the segment: "We're not playing fantasy football, and we're not here to be belittled, either". Yikes.
Like I said in another thread, it was a culmination of multiple days of it. Beane is very in tune with what the fans and media want and he doesn’t try to act like he doesn’t read the press clippings when you did.
He was already irritated after day 2 with the press, the fans , and not saying he reads this board but plenty on this board were displeased with the Sanders pick solely because he wasn’t 320+ plus DT. He even mentioned in the Day 3 presser about how the media kept pushing the narrative to him that they didn’t get big enough at DT.
T.J Sanders had his availability to the media and if you watch 9 minutes probably 6 to 7 mins of it was what did you play at South Carolina , did you play the 1T at all. What’s your playing weight? How high do you think you can play at. I’m sure Beane saw it and shook his head.
So he listens to that and Day 3 comes out and his first pick is Deone Walker a guy they’ll play at the 1T who is very large and thinks the media will be happy about only to come out of the draft to questions about why he didn’t take a WR earlier and he’s probably thinking to himself WTF as the media rides him about that.
So he keeps his cool, is probably pissed but he puts a lid on it only to come on the radio and find two more guys talking down to him about not taking a WR and that probably made him boil over to what you saw this morning. I don’t blame him.
In the mock special, @GunnerBill correctly predicted 2/3 top picks, we talked extensively about T.J Sanders and when Gunner picked Alfred Collins at 62 I said in the podcast that I expect the Bills to address CB in round 1, take a 3T in round 2 and then I expected them to take either an Edge or a WR(they took Jackson) and then I said I expect them to take a 1T in the 4th round because the value was better there. Between the two of us we were spot on almost with the draft philosophy of the Bills and this draft. The only exception was waiting until the 7th to take a WR
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20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Don't know about that. In the last four seasons, they've gone 10-3, 11-2, 8-5, and 10-3 in a brutal conference and have finished ranked 9th once and 11th twice. They also had the number 2 defense in all of college football this past season (in terms of points allowed). 5 of their 11 defensive starters were drafted this past weekend too: guys in the first, second, third, fifth, and sixth rounds. They also had a QB go in round one and a WR in round 2. Their 3 losses in 2024 were by the scores of 20-17, 29-26, and 24-17 (all one-score games). They also beat a stacked Georgia team, 28-10.
I don't view national championships or college playoff appearances as proper gauges of good seasons. There are too many teams for one, and secondly it's tough to get past OSU, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Michigan, and to a lesser extent LSU and Oregon giving their recruiting prowess.
They sold their souls last year in the transfer portal trying to make the playoff and failed at it. For the amount of money they put into that program sniping players from other programs they don’t win enough.
Nolan, Amos, Dart amongst many others were not originally Miss players
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I did want to take one in this draft just because the value is there. Taking one in the 7th you might have been able to sneak a guy on the PS. Two of my favorites Brashard Smith and LeQuint Allen both went round 7 but I get why they didn’t do it
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3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
Yup sometimes a squirrel finds a nut lol. It was the right year to do it. I thought they were going to use 5 of their picks on DL/ Secondary . Turned out they used 6. I think if they had taken a mid round WR no one would have graded this draft less than an A- but people will knock the Bills for that-
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I’m somewhere between an A- and a B+. Favorite pick: TJ Sanders Least: Deone Walker
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
I think Palmer plays faster than his 40 time, but he is more a guy who wins with his routes than just that vertical speed. Look if they can add Moore I will feel a lot better going into this year about the WRs than I did going into last year before the Cooper trade but I'm still not sure they have that true downfield outside guy I really wanted them to find.
I just think that Brady is of the ilk of get me guys who can RAC and I’ll scheme them to get open. He does this well with guys particularly when it comes to the middle of the football field. I would feel better with Moore as well and because of his age you would hope he has some upside still or having a better QB allows for increased production -
I listened to it and it’s funny because I think both sides are correct. I do think that Jeremy wasn’t expecting that and the look on his face was a oh sh*t how do I calm this down.
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8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
There is more to being a vertical, downfield receiver on the outside than speed. A bit part is getting off press and his short arms restrict him there. I think you can do some stuff with him vertically if you can get him in advantageous situations vs bracket zone coverages but he isn't going to be a consistent enough outside vertical guy to back teams off the line with any regularity.
That isn't saying don't sign him. I like the idea. Just be realistic about what it is.
I do think he would add the horizontal speed aspect that they talked about more than the vertical aspect for sure. I wonder if signing Palmer was their solution to the vertical aspect even though he doesn’t run particularly fast-
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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't mind it as an idea. He doesn't raise the ceiling but he would give us 5 legit NFL receivers whereas right now we have 4.
Year my first thought process is that this is like Josh Palmer but more the speed Josh Palmer. Legit NFL WR that has underachieved so far but has some really good traits that the Bills/Allen hope to elevate-
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6 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:
He's on now and I have never seen/heard Brandon Beane so salty on an interview. He is prickly about the WR/draft conversation. Interesting interaction and not the usual Beane interview.
I would be too . Haven’t listened yet but the Buffalo media asked nothing but size questions on DT after Day 2 of the draft and pretty much did the same thing to TJ Sanders in his media availability asking him what his weight was and how much he thinks he can gain.
Beane actually mentioned this at the Day 3 presser about DT than he gets hammered about not taking a WR earlier in the draft which I think we all wanted but it’s clear that myself and a lot of other people were off on Jalen Royals round projection etc. It’s clear that the Bills valued Deone Walker more than staying put and getting a WR at 132 and whoever the best 1T/DT was at pick 169 if they hadn’t traded up.
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50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I just contrast that strategy with Tampa Bay. Who priort to Thursday evening were on an equal streak with the Bills of no Wide Receivers in round 1 since we picked Sammy and they picked Mike (nope, still not over it). They have Evans, they have Godwin, they have Sterling Shephard as a vet who has done some things in this league and they have Jalen McMillan who had a good rookie year. Yet they still didn't stand pat when Egbuka fell to them. Now maybe if Egbuka falls to us we take him too (not convinced, but maybe). Just feels like one team was going "we've got four serviceable guys" and one was saying "we still need more".
Totally get it but at the same time the Bucs defense is absolute garbage and the only reason they win that division every year is because the other teams are awful. It’s not an indication how good the Bucs are16 minutes ago, Logic said:
In fairness, DL was universally lauded as the strength of this draft class, whereas it was not a particularly strong or deep WR class.
Now if you want to talk about LAST year's draft class, where WR was SUPER deep and the Bills didn't take advantage on day two or three, I'd be more than happy to. I'm still angry about it.
Everybody keeps talking about last years class because it was perceived as a great class but as it pertains to difference makers even in that strong class no one from the 3rd round on made really any type of contribution in their rookie year . Maybe future years will be different for that class but people acting as if if KeAndre Smith or others were going to come in and get reps in their rookie year as a difference making vertical threat are mistaken-
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He did a good job picking the Rams. They had a huge need at LB and only took Paul in the draft in round 5
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2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
So, the opposite of investing a lot in the DL, allowing for competition, and letting the cream rise to the top.
They just don't value the position sufficiently, imo. They count on Josh Allen to elevate the room, where I think they should add plus talent at the position and make it easier on Josh, and also more likely that a clutch play will happen in a must have situation in the playoffs.
I mean I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I just think that they believe the offense is set this year and the defense needed a complete overhaul and they were right in that sense. I always thought they would take 3 DL and 2 DBs in this class and I was wrong they took 3 so I understand the line of thinking that those two groupings needed an overhaul and they used the strength of the draft to hopefully achieve that goal.
They need Coleman to take a leap and they need Kincaid to get back to form of his rookie season if not better or they’ll be spending another 3rd rounder week 6 for a weapon
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I think their thought process is that we have our 4 WRS all locked up beyond this year. Samuel, Coleman, Shakir, and Palmer are basically all locks to make the roster for various reasons and the # 5 WR that they have kept over their tenure has been a STs guy. Well look no further than Shavers who has been here the last couple of years developing and his specialty is Special teams play. Then Shenault is here as a possible returner and 6th guy if they want to go in that Direction.
In their minds they probably only had a PS opening available for a WR this year and that’s probably where Prather will end up unless he absolutely explodes onto the scene.
I’m not saying it’s the right strategy I just am trying to get into their line of thinking on why
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I will not accept Jackson Hawes slander. Haven’t even read a post on here about him and I already know what’s being talked about. Good tough ball player
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2 minutes ago, Sojourner said:
Surprised Kansas’ Cobee Bryant went UD.
He is undersized and ran incredibly slow. Apparently word was he was a bad interview too for a lot of teams. Loved him early on but not surprised he went UDFA-
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There was word that Kenneth Grant has a weird personality but man he couldn't have gone to a better situation for weird personalities cause Mike McDaniel is a weird mfer
3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:Miami takes Zeek Biggers😪
wanted as UDFA
After taking 3 DL, we are not getting any high level DL UDFA's to come here.
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Just now, stevewin said:
ESPN officially gone off the deep end - reveals Mel doesn't eat in front of other people
He also has never gone pee while on set apparently during the draft. I find that hard to believe with his old age unless he keeps a bottle under the table.
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2 minutes ago, QCity said:
Chiefs are going to grab Bond as an UDFA, aren't they?
Nobody is picking up Bond until his situation is resolved not even as a UDFA imo
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Can't say I love the Rams draft.
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Just now, MasterStrategist said:
Thought you were our "truck guy"/draft expert.....
Kidding, appreciated all you and @gonzo1105 summarized/time invested into this--- huge thanks!
I mean I watch the whole thing every year so I might as impart my wisdom/annoyance on everyone while i'm at it on this board haha
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
I've seen nothing of Prather, but the NFL.com draft profile says
"not explosive" and "not a natural pass catcher."
Sounds promising.
Beane probably took him so he doesn't have to field 90 questions about not taking a WR with the media in 10 minutes.
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WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO For the Board lol
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Da'Quan Felton still out there if you want a WR we met with, I like Jackson Woodard from UCLA, obviously Dolac , Clay Webb Jacksonville State. I still like some DB's that would be hilarious.
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Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today (Update: Signed!)
in The Stadium Wall
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Similar bodies and speed profile but Moore had better production throughout his career which isn’t saying much