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I think the 3rd round comp pick was a killer and why Beane is pissed about it because that might have been their plan to get Thomas or Mitchell or a sliding Odunze. That 3r rounder was a valuable trade chip. I don’t see Beane wanting to give up 60. So we’re looking at 30, a 4th this year a 2025 1st(the equivalent of a 2nd rounder this year to get up to around where the Colts are picking. That is in range for Brian Thomas If you want to get a couple picks higher like the Broncos at 12 you can throw in your 2025 3rd rounder

Neither. To move up 10 spots in the 2nd round the Bills would have to give up both 4ths and a 6th. That would leave Buffalo with 30, 50, 2 5ths , 2 6ths and a 7th just can’t see Beane doing it. What I can see is Buffalo making a move into the 30’s picking up an early 4th or 3rd and than maneuvering up whether for another 3rd or moving up in the 2

Your right and you also contradicted yourself by using Diggs as an example when he plays with Josh Allen unless your insinuating that Pickens is a better WR than Diggs than I get what your saying

George Pickens had the most flukish 1,000 yard season I’ve ever seen. Had only 5 100 yard games including one at 195 but also had 7 games under 50 yards. It was very boom or bust with him

Still keep typing to me like a true loser who’s butt hurt I never loved him lol

Im literally not even reading your stuff anymore man. You’re just typing to type when it comes to me. I’ve literally told you to give up. I’ve checked out on you. You’re now coming off like an ex gf who can’t let go and continues to blow up my phone.

Im not for or against DeJean per se. I would understand why the Bills took him at 28 for sure if it happens and I do think he’s the only truly elite safety prospect on paper. I think it’s likely the are going to go WR, DT, or DE. With that said depending on how the board falls I can see DeJean or a Tackle being the pick if things go sideways for them as it pertains to the first 3 needs

At the FCS level(San Diego) Freshmen : 24 catches 374 and 11 TDs Sophomore: 44 Catches 835 and 8TDs (AP FCS All American) FBS level(Utah) 2020: 1 start played in 5 games 2021: 13 starts 36 catches 510 yards 8 TDs 2022: 9 starts 70 catches 890 yards and 8 TDs (AP All American) Kincaid played 5 years of college football and played in 55 games. He started 24 games at Utah and started another 24 at San Diego. The man started 4 years of collegiate football and 4 1/2 years of college football. Was an All American at both the FCS and FBS level before going pro and led the FBS in numerous categories as a TE. He wasn’t a raw prospect coming into the NFL In comparison to Legette: Freshmen: 0 starts 9 catches 80 yards 1 TD Sophomore: 6 starts 7 catches 113 yards 0 TDs Junior: 4 starts 8 catches 63 yards and a TD Senior: 7 starts 18 catches 167 yards and 3 TDs Covid Senior: 12 starts 71 catches 1,255 yard and 7 TDs(3rd team All American) Legette started 29 games for USC, 19 starts less than Kincaid and his stats for his first 4 years doesn’t even eclipse 1 year of Kincaids production. Legette exploded and that’s the question people will have to figure out whether the first 4 years were an aberration and he finally figured it out or not.

I didn’t use last year as an example. I used the 36 point game for people who believe they just adding more firepower and scoring is the answer to beating the Chiefs. Sure a WR would have helped us win last year in your opinion, and was that the case after the 36 point game. Probably not you were prob thinking damn we need more defense or our coaching blew it but I doubt anyone after that game was like man we need more firepower. Each game comes down to making plays when it matters. Last year we missed a kick, had injuries, and offense couldn’t catch. The year before the defense couldn’t stop anything and the offense couldn’t get out of neutral The year before that we put up 36 points and coaching and defense failed. Each game is it’s own story and it came down to the Chiefs made more plays than the Bills when it mattered in all 3 phases

Kincaid wasn’t a raw prospect, he was a polished product. While he’s athletic, you couldn’t classify Kincaid as an athletic freak because he never tested during the pre draft process due to his back injury

I mean we did put up 36 points to the Chiefs in Arrowhead and still lost. We just need to make plays when they matter in games whether offense defense and STs. If that means adding a WR great, if it means getting a game wrecking D lineman great. Just get a difference maker imo that can disrupt them in some way

Im not even upset right now. I tried to bury the hatchet literally 5 posts with you who when I said Fair and you just continued plugging away and you’re still plugging away. Give it up. You must have missed the part where I said I don’t know the board anymore than you do. People discussed DeJean and your ripped it down with your tired business economics tirade that you plug into every discussion that doesn’t involve a premium position. That’s not moving a discussion forward that’s rehashing your points to get people to agree with you. Hence the you must have been pissed about the Kincaid pick last year. For someone who says I lecture too much you sure do much of the same

I agree that they probably pivot to Franklin but people should look for a worst case situations and work backwards. That’s worst case. Stuck at 28 Latu, Mitchell, Thomas, Worthy , DeJean are gone. If you don’t think the Bills run these scenarios people are kidding themselves

I know I’m giving off vibes but the Bills can’t trade down or the value isn’t right and Cooper DeJean goes in the early 20s. I ask because it is plausible all of these happen

This is the question that I have posed as well. Great question. The vast majority will tell you Worthy but that’s why I want people to think beyond these 3. I even want to add that Latu is gone as well. Thomas, Mitchell, Latu are gone and the Bills see Legette as a mid 2nd rounder

I don’t think they wanted to play Ed Oliver that much last year but had no choice with DQ, Phillips going down and Settle being disappointing. I think they would ideally do a 60-40. If that is worth it who knows

I would disagree with this only because Allen was 21, Edmunds was 20, Rousseau was 20, Oliver 21, Elam 20. When Beane takes athletic profiles in round 1 he does it when they’re extremely young. He has never take a 23 year old raw prospect. If you looking at athletic profiles and youth your looking at Brian Thomas and AD Mitchell Even Keon Coleman is 20 but I wouldn’t consider him an athletic freak

He’s not that good and has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL year in and year out

I like your list without rehashing, glad we agree on a couple. My only guy I think we differ on is Roger Rosengarten. I almost slide him into round 2 of my last mock and think he goes somewhere on Day 2

I will admit he looks thinner at least. Maybe the GF has him on some Hollywood Vegan fad diet

Early round guys: Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo Ladd McConkey WR Georgia Braden Fiske DT Florida State Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale( might slip due to injuries) Mid Round Guys: Tez Walker WR UNC Tyler Davis DT Clemson Ray Davis RB Kentucky Christian Mahogany OG Boston College Jarrion Jones CB FSU Late Round: JT Clark WR UTSA Kedon Slovis QB BYU Mason McCormick OG SDSU Cody Schrader RB Missouri Jaxon Janke WR SDSU There are more but those are my fav guys

I agree on Michell as well with you just think someone is going to take a chance on his traits and feel they can refine his game earlier than what showed on his tape

I 100% agree that people who think a guy at 28 even in a deep WR is going to come in and get massive targets with Diggs, Cook , Kincaid etc etc here are delusional. I was one of the first to be on McConkey as a Bills possibility and I think it’s still there depending what’s on the board.

No solely for discussion what don’t you get. Out of the 13, some of them aren’t going to be there, some of them won’t be on the the Bills board or high enough but guess what you and I don’t know how their board is and who is where. What you think isn’t relevant to their board. It’s worth discussing all possibilities because you and I don’t know man. How this is so damn hard for you to comprehend is astounding. Oh lord god forbid I want to discuss more than Xavier Legette day in and day out. As for who with Kincaid last year idk I’d have to go back and look at my notes. I know that OT was high on my board because of the uncertainty with Brown, his inconsistency and back issues, as well as WR but I projected the WRs to go either before the Bills pick which they did or I think I had a guy like them not loving Johnston Out of the 13 guys I expect Latu, Powers Johnson, Mitchell, Murphy, Newton, DeJean literally you commented on my last mock go look lol. That leaves 7 guys but out of those 13 it’s not out of the realm of possibility that any of the 13 are there at the Bills pick.

Gould is like 5’8 too isn’t he?