Bill from NYC
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Was Dilfer picked in the 1st round?
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Dream perhaps, but not knowing much about the NE cap situation, it does look like they at least might lose some pretty good players, in addition to their top asst. coaches.
I would like to see Vinitari bleed them out of a ton of cap space. Andruzzi and Klemm are in a position to cost them some money as well. If they lose them, will they have to go with Marques Sullivan?
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>>>>It's an extension of the government into the love/sex life of adults. It bugs me more than you, I guess.<<<<
Honestly, I have a tough time with the issue. Yes, I have a problem with the govt. being involved in the bedrooms of America. Otoh, what shall we do when people sue because they want to marry their brother, or their German Sheppard? This may sound nuts, but do you doubt for even a second that someone will take these issues to court? I do not.
Gays are far better off the way things are imo. If I get a divorce, everything I have ever worked for will be lost, including half of a rather generous pension, my home, custody of my children, etc. Gay people want this? Or, do they want a form of forced acceptance?
I hate to get flimsy, but it is not easy for me to take a stand on this issue.
PS: Before you attack, NO, I do NOT liken bestiality to 2 adults being gay. The reference was ONLY made in terms of lifting restrictions.
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Someone in the "Anti-Drew" crowd declared that Drew cannot win the "Big Game." Although this expression was never clearly defined, the haters pounced upon this and now recite it as gospel truth.
OK.....perhaps we can now be informed of who CAN win the big ones.
McNabb? I guess not.
Manning? Ditto
Here is my list:
1) Favre, but he is aging.
2) Warner, but he too is aging, has miles, and no longer has Pace, Faulk, etc.
3) JP Losman.
Did I forget anyone?
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Hey, if JP can make it onto the field from the parking lot without stepping on a piece of gravel and being rushed to the nearest ER, he is going to destroy the pats.
Manning and McNabb couldn't but that's OK. JP to the rescue!!!!!
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No problem, JP will kick their asses.....no problem!!!
Right everybody?
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He's been on an NFL team since the day he was drafted and taking that atrocious LionsOffense and it's staff to the playoffs is quite an accomplishment in my book. imo it's something Drew couldn't hope to acomplish in his wildest dreams.
Fiedler's defense took that miamuh team to the p'offs; and that Lions defense Batch took to the playoffs pales in comparison. And Batch won a starting job his rookie year in Detroit after being drafted from a small school with the last pick of the 2ndround; he then proceeded to start another 45+ games there until he signed w/ the Stillers after Millen came to Detroit and wanted his own guys.
He didn't sign a huge contract like RJ because he doesn't have the arm/legs RJ had, he did catch on with a team (he chose his hometown team to be closer to his family) and if you want to know about his reputation, ask QB guru Bill Walsh who happens to be one of his biggest supporters. And as for your smarmy comment about him being a hobo, I think it's pretty telling that you'd call a guy who has only played for two teams, the second in his own hometown, a "hobo".
I couldn't give a rat's ass what kind of #'s Parcells enabled Drew to put up, nor could I give a rat's ass about what kind of #'s he will retire with. All I care about is what QB gives the Bills the best chance to win right now. And Blesoe ain't it.
I'm not sure why you love Drew so much that you'll rip on other people like Batch and Losman who may be a threat to his status as an "untouchable". Whatever it is, I think it's preventing you from looking at the Bills QB position with much objectivity. Regardless of how tall Drew is, how big his arm is, how stern his jaw or how regal his bearing, he's still a stumbling buffoon when the ball is snapped. When your QB's biggest weakness is the position's most important requirement (i.e. the football brain), the guy is doomed to failure. He may speak handsomely, but since Parcells left NE, Bledsoe's looked dumber than a bag of hammers on the field.
That's not going to change any time soon, but feel free to rip on anybody who may be suggested to replace yor exalted leader.
Cya
All of you points are well taken, except perhaps about Batch. He is now what, 4th string? Behind the likes of Maddox and who else?
For the record, I want JP to compete with Drew for the starting job. That said, I strongly doubt if he will beat him out. I think the Bills will be loaded this season when the draft and free agency smoke clear. Loaded AND well coached. I want the Bills to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win.
Bledsoe is a very "needy" qb. Now, his needs seem to be in place. The OL will very likely improve. MaGahee is here and Travis will be gone! Evans might be a superstar, it is possible.
This is why I cannot see going with an unknown, nor an unproven player.
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Hey, what do you know? Bill, we finally agree on something!
If we want Shelton or Surtain, it would DEFINITELY require more from the Bills than just Henry. I know, I know...supply and demand is a crazy, curious thing...
Getting Surtain means probably giving up Clements, and same goes with Shelton and JJ. I'd much rather sign and keep our own, anyway.
As for Henry's worth, I still think TD will be able to pull off something like a 3rd AND 5th from a desperate, cavalier Al Davis type.
We probably agree on more things than you are comfortable admitting (not that I blame you).
It would be nice to keep Jennings, but I have a real problem paying him 36 million (or more) over 5 years. He might actually get this from a team.
As for NC, it will be hard to keep him either way after the Winfield fiasco. NC, imo, is far better than AW and is going to want a ton of money.
I have a feeling that TD thinks that 05 is the year to make the big push, and I think he is right. With free agency and the cap, most teams (unlike NE
) have a very small window to make their move. Our defense and STs are ready. LE and WM are getting better. The OL is a player or 2 away, and Travis will be gone.Surtain would give us the best secondary in the NFL in 05. That is why, along with Miami needing cap space, I am thinking a deal to be a true possibility.
One thing of which I AM certain is that this offseason is going to be a ton of fun.
Enjoy the game young man.
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Hey, I agree with you about teams not parting with STUD LT's. My arguement is that Jennings is set to leave, so the Bills apparently dont feel they MUST hang on to their LT. AND Shelton is NOT worth Henry straight up!
Its a DREAM to think any team will trade us a LT and a 3rd rounder for Henry, but crazy stuff does happen, ask Ditka about getting Ricky!
Its more likely that it would be Henry for LJ plus a 5th or 6th.
I just feel like with our cap situation, decent depth, and already solid team in most areas, we should spend some dough on a few studs. a serious upgrade on the o-line with a few studs would be, by far, the best move for this team. Especially if they plan to start Losman, it could mean the difference between a 8 and 8 or worse season and the playoffs at say 9 and 6. If Losman has lots of time and isnt rattled, I think he will do pretty damn good. It worked for Pitt!
Lots of ifs, but why take a guy who is a sleeper type at THE MOST IMPORTANT o-line position? why not pay, your highest salary on the o-line, to the best player on the o-line in the most important position. Im not sure its wise to take a chance on Shelton at LT. We need a guy we can count on from day one.
I have no quarrel with you whatsoever on the issue of bringing in Pace, Jones, and or a big name LG. There will never be a time when I am against improving the OL. Cold weather teams require big, talented, nasty OLs. Period.
Where we disagree is the value you place upon Henry. I think there would be, because of his salary, a better chance of getting Surtain than Shelton for Henry and if we did, imo we would certainly have to pony up a draft pick to do so, not get one in return.
Jmo.
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Blind hatred suggests he has done no wrong and I'm just singling him out for some personal type vendetta. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's all based on his overall inconsistent/horrid play and excessive salary for little production/playing small in big games. I have zero faith in his QB abilities. Our Defense and ST's lead us to victory most weeks. I could care less about DB's career stats. They don't mean a thing anymore.
JP is completely unproven but won't learn sitting on the bench. I put faith in Wyche to coach him up and also TD to identify a Veteran QB who can step in if JP is not ready.
The DB experiment is played and has failed for the last 2 seasons. He'll never win us a playoff game, so what's the point ? His legacy is not more important than the Buffalo Bills.
Mark, when a team is 0-4, I think that every game is big.
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>>>I don't hate Drew nor do I think JP is any more than 50/50 to be a good NFL QB. The reasons I would take Batch over Drew are very simple ones:
1)I think Batch is a good QB
2)I think Drew is a bad QB
Nothing to do with personal animosity or pipe-dreams of HOF glory. You know, it's possible to have a differing opinion w/o being blind or hateful.....<<<
Simon, my old friend, the above is not logical imo.
There will ALWAYS be a shortage of NFL qbs (and of course LTS and pass rushing DEs). Batch has been around for a while now. If he was worth more than a dime store trollop, why is it that he hasn't caught on somewhere by now and accomplished anything at all? Even Fiedler was able to take a football team to the playoffs, let alone win a starting job. Flutie is 90 and still getting paid.
Think about it, he could have been traded for a big pick, like Freeley. He could have signed a huge contract like RJ. He could have caught on with a team and earned a solid reputation (like Hasselbeck). Instead, he has drifted around like a hobo and sat.
It is true, every GM in the league could be wrong about him. He may have a talent that no GM can see. Even so, in his entire career, he will never accomplish half of what Drew has done to date.
This is why I am confused about such comparisons. I cannot find any logical reason to place a nobody next to a guy who will be near the top in virtually every passing category, and I have tried.
Maybe Bills fans are SO much in the habit of hating him from the patriot days that they cannot stop. I dont know, but I hope to see Drew and JP battle it out in camp this season, until of course JP is mangled and maimed from slapping someone a high five, or some other form of contact.
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Dude, I think your off base here. Shelton was a sleeper prospect taken early in the 1999 Draft. Green made him second string because he was disgusted with his line. 6-6 335 with 6 years experience and he's 28. Green demoted him for a reason and I dont think it was only coming into training camp too fat. Shelton stripped off the pounds and still sat the bench. Leonard Davis was moved to LT and did well. Some reporters have claimed that LJ Shelton was one of the best o-lineman on the Cards, top 2 or 3. So, it could be that Shelton is underrated by Green. But this is DEFINETELY something to be weary of.
I absolutely would not trade Henry for Shelton straight up. Shelton is NOT worthy of a pro bowl RB like Henry in a trade. Shelton plus a pick, yes. But to me I would say it needs to be something like a 4th or maybe even a 3 AND Shelton for Henry.
I still think Miami may be set to trade Surtain to us. Surtain or Shelton, you do the math.
So you think we will get a 3rd and a LT for Travis Henry?
That ranks 3rd in my estimation of ridiculous trade proposals behind Travis straight up for Gallery, and Travis for Miami's first pick.
PS: Teams almost never trade LTs. When it does happen, it will not be for a stupid, beat up running back.
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>>>>>hope TD's efforts work out and Bledsoe agrees to take back-up money in exchange for M and the braintrust really givng and JP a fair competition on the field for the starters job.
If JP proves worthy on the field of being the starter, i would take Drew producing and acting exactly as he did in 2001 when he lost the starter's job to a better QB (Brady) in a hot second.<<<<
FFS, I agree that the above would be a best case scenario for the Bills.
If they go with JP, there is always the chance that someone might accidently lean on him in the huddle, and thus place him in traction for another month or so.
Drew would be familiar with the system, and able to heal while JP heals his weary bones.
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in no real order...
1. Trade Henry - OT L.J. Shelton of the Cards would be a nice prize. Package Henry with Bledsoe and maybe a draft pick.
2. Get Bledsoe off this roster- no more fools gold
3. Re-sign OT Marcus Price and Identify an OT and LG on the Free Agency market.
4. Sign a Vet QB who has some mobility and isn't a turnover machine. Charlie Batch of Pittsburgh knows the Offense. Consider others.
5. Re-sign Pat Williams , if his expectations are reasonable.
6. Redo Moulds contract - 2005 cap hit is $8,775,000.
7. Sign a TE in Free Agency. Campbell and Euhus both coming off knee surgery.
8. Sign a Vet RB in Free Agency. Versatile sort who can block, catch. A Roland Hooks, Rob Riddick, Kenny Davis type to back up Willis.
9. A Vet DE would be a good idea in Free Agency.
10. Sign a solid K in Free Agency or consider Nugent in Round 2. He's worth it. Cut Lindell .
11. Sign a Vet WR for a solid #3 option.
I would like to see Nate Clements re-signed but I believe he will sit tight until after 2005 and test the FA waters.
Draft day - CB,OL,S and general depth.
TD has lots of work to do.
What exactly is it that you like about Batch? Can he run? Sure, but since an early flash or 2 in his career, he seems to be running toward the bench, perhaps even the unemployment line. Batch imo is RJ with perhaps en extra dance step.
To want Bach over Drew indicates one (or both) of two things.....
A blind hatred for Drew, or
A blind faith that JP is Canton Bound.
Personally, I would rather Drew stay and fight JP for the job rather than go with a choice of a guy who has proven that he cannot win a starting job on any team, and a guy who has proven that he can get hurt when a small player brushes up against him.
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A NY court today ruled that NYs ban on gay marriage violated the NY State Constitution.
We appreciate the fact that you told us your views about the smoking ban in bars. Thank you. To paraphrase, you stated that although you are against it, the issue does not matter enough to you to work, petition politicians, nor lobby against. Please, correct me if I am wrong, for I do NOT want to misrepresent your views nor statements, OK?
Now, how much does the gay marriage issue matter to you, and why? Also, given your lukewarm opposition to the smoking ban (in bars), do you think that hetrosexuals should swarm to, and actively support your apparent cause, that of gay marriages?
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Again, not to be realistic again, but Travis is worth what maybe a 3rd or 4th at most. Yeah I know some folks around here say 2nd, and even then.
But Shelton is a top 10 LT in the NFL, who is on a cap friendly deal. It is not just the Bills who will want this guy. We are going to be bidding again the likes of any team with a need at LT. Miami, NO, Washington, Cinci, Cleveland, Chicago, etc....
He will not be had for less then a 1st rounder at a minimu, and possibly a first plus more. LT of this quality, age and contract size do not come around very often.
If they were to deal with us, even with Travis, we still give up at least our 2nd this year, and/or 1st next year.
Now personally I would jump all over this. I am not a big fan of Mr. Average when he is healthy Jennings. He seems to miss a third of every season and then is only average when in there.
Thanks VA!
I get tired trying to explain that teams will not give up the store to acquire a second rate football player.
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Well Said!!!
If the Bills were to leave WNY, I would immediately abandon the franchise. Honestly, I do not know what I would do in terms of being a fan of any team.
The New Jersey Giants are out, and I was already abandoned by the jests while residing in Queens. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: jests, now and forever!!!
I have never lived in WNY, but I have, after going there for 11 consecutive years, grown to love it. I have made friends there (through TBD). WNY needs the Buffalo Bills.
I am disturbed, almost sickened by the comments of Tagliabue.
This is not good.
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Cool, but my post was not in response to FFS.
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Thanks, but I also stick by my assertion of the word "person" as well.
I watched Shaun since he played at Alabama. My memory is weak, but as I recall his dad was a Viet Nam soldier who was killed in the line of duty. He was never anything but an intelligent model citizen, as well as a great player at each and every facet of his position.
Yes, football is a "team" game. This is of course beyond dispute. My contention is that TH has horrid stats in terms of w/l record, fumbles, and sacks allowed. Throw in wrong pass routes, slipping in front of truck sized holes, a missed flight to a dolphin game, sex with a 15 year old, and no....I would rather not see these two men compared to eachother.
I will trust your judgement as to whether or not I am being out of line here.
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I think this news report (below) is interesting. The Seahawks have been jerking Walter Jones around for how long now? 3 years with this franchise tag? Now, they have one month to get their act together with Jones, Hasselback, and Alexander.
The more I think about it, the more I think Seattle would be a great fit for Henry.
And having a guy like Mack Strong blocking for him would be a big asset. So the Seachokes let Alexander go. They then have the money to tie up Hasselback long term, sign to Jones to a nice 4 or 5 year deal, and then bring in Henry with an afforable first year. I really like Shaun Alexander, but I think he burned a few bridges with his post game comments about losing the rushing title.
From Alexander to Henry is a bit of a downgrade but not as bad as Alexander to Maurice Morris.
-- Alexander Interested in Miami --
Thu Feb 3, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com
The Sun Sentinel reports if Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander is allowed to become a free agent next month, he could draw interest from the Dolphins. Alexander is interested in the Dolphins after they hired HC Nick Saban. Alexander mentioned Alabama assistant Charlie Harbison, who had a stint with Saban in Baton Rouge. "He was at Alabama when I was there," Alexander said. "And he spoke very highly about the work ethic of Nick, and how he really willed the coaches to be great coaches, and the players to be great players. I think you get coaches like that, that makes Super Bowl teams." Alexander, whose 1,696 yards for the Seahawks were 1 yard short of the total posted by the Jets' Curtis Martin, first publicly expressed interest in the Dolphins' situation two months ago, before Saban's arrival. Wednesday he also mentioned Cincinnati and Tampa Bay as possibilities, listing family comfort and team direction as among his priorities. Seattle could place a franchise tag on Alexander, but the contracts of OLT Walter Jones and QB Matt Hasselbeck are also up. The Seahawks' front office is in transition, rendering their moves unpredictable.
>>>>>From Alexander to Henry is a bit of a downgrade<<<<
A bit of a downgrade? A BIT OF A DOWNGRADE??????????????
Bro, I have been trying to let this topic go and let the chips fall where they may, but the above sentence pushed me over the edge once again. Seriously, I'm sorry.
Alexander to TH, in terms of a downgrade is like Pam Anderson, or Raquel Welch in her twenties as compared to Star Jones, Bea Arthur, Whoopie Goldberg, or any other beat up old rag!
Travis is a good runner. Shaun is a better one. There is no other phase of football ability nor life in which these two men can be compared.
Shaun Alexander is a franchise football player. TH is a career loser and a nitwit. Check his record as the starter for the Buffalo Bills football team. Check his record as a person.
My fingers are crossed for a trade to Miami, so he can infect the phish.
Sorry again my friend, but this was more than I could stand.
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The above makes your posting even more special.
In the other thread, I stated that it is a tough life. It is hard for many to grasp, but the best cops and detectives I have ever seen are far more afraid of Internal Affairs witch hunts and their wives than gun-toting killers. I am not joking.
The good news is that my family is in one piece. I have an Ivy League daughter who is "fighting the fight," and two younger ones who are doing great in school, and are great people.
I still maintain that YOU and others like you are the true heros of society. I am in a position where I am in contact with many young police officers, and I am going to tell them of your support and kindness.
Thanks again.
My Predictions For The Bills In 05
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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1) Drew takes a pay cut and stays (sorry haters).
2) The starting qb position will be decided by who is healthy.
3) Somebody will slap JP on the back after a good play, and he will be hospitalized once again....nod to Drew due to injury.
4) TD signs the LG equivalent of CV.
5) JJ is gone.
6) PW is gone.
7) Tucker moves to OC.
8) Teague moves to LT.
9) Tucker and Teague both play well at their new positions under McNally.
10) TD signs Ron Edwards to a long term deal.
11) The Bills trade Henry and a 5th round pick for Surtain.
12) Josh Stamer sees lots of time at OLB.
13) The Bills draft a cb, ol and wr with their first 3 picks.
14) The Bills finish 11-5.
I may be wrong at every turn, but there it is. At least I have the ba!!s to put forth my expectations, and I welcome comments.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!