davefan66

Fine, Trent though is a better QB than Losman. Not to sound like I'm a homer at all, but, Trent has been a victim of poor play by the D and O-lines, while JP was a victim of his own poor play. Trent is a much better QB who will only improve, while JP is an OK QB, who has only gotten worse.

Best line in 5 years??? BTW, finally exposed cause Trent is starting?? Nope, they were expose a long time ago. It takes a few weeks of game tape when the opposition realizes YOU CAN'T RUN THE BALL and tee's off on the QB. If Trent had ANY protection or run blocking, this would have been a much different game.

Yep. Totally. He held the ball for about 1.5 seconds before he got blasted and fumbled the ball. Yep, totally had amazing pass protection today.

Yeah, that's it. Way to see the big picture. WOW! I feel as if I've been saved! How could I believe that the O-line, D-line, pass rush, run defense, run blocking, pass blocking, injured WR's, poor coaching, injured DE's have anything to do with this loss? How dare me! THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT TO ME THAT TRENT IS THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS TEAM!!

Whatever. Funny how on these boards a few short weeks ago, Trent was the second coming... Now that the O-line is totally exposed, Trent is the problem. Sorry, but get your head out of the dirt.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Whoever is running the ball is juking 3 yards behind the line on most run plays, just to get back to the line of scrimmage. Our O-line is the problem on offense right know, no running game and Trent is getting crushed.

OMG! Wow. When will you all realize it starts with the O-line and ZERO RUSH OR PASS BLOCKING!!!! Trent is a VERY good QB stuck behind a crap line. Imagine what would happen if we actually had a run game, and they didn't tee off on Trent every play!! Answer me that???

Actually, I was going to ask you the same thing... Btw, it's Miller Lite and my buddy Jack

How is the fumble his fault?? Blind side rush with zero protection, again!

Give him some pass blocking and maybe that wouldn't happen. Funny how good he looked a couple of weeks ago when he had all the time in the world to throw the ball. Darn near perfect QB rating. He got his butt handed to him by the O-line today. Way to run and pass block O-line. What a bunch of overpaid players. I would say over-rated, but those in the know understand they suk.

Nope, pass and run block sucked.

Yep. With no running game, and crap pass blocking, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again....

I didn't state you said he was better, now did I?? I just think tossing in Losman wouldn't help, as he sux. Even if it is only to toss the long ball.

Oh, and BTW

Say it ain't so, Joe.. BTW, it isn't all Trent's fault. His run and pass bocking SUXX!!!! Remember how good he looks with some blocking.

I wish Simms WOULD JUST SHUT HIS MOUTH ALREADY!!!! I "Can't express" that enough...

I don't know about season over, but I bet the talk about "Superbowl" dies down a bit after this week....

Wow....so what record did we start the season with??? NE* will kick the crap out of us next week. And I'm not being a spoiled sport, just a realist. This team has taken a complete 180 and look like garbage. No blocking for pass or run, and zero run defense....nice....

You can't tell me Schobel means that much to the run defense??

intentional grounding? nope, ineligible man downfield... screw you favre.....its not a hold...

1. Outcoached...AGAIN! Hey Mangenius, way to teach your player to step out of bounds while recovering a kickoff. 2. We cannot run the ball. Don't need to say a thing here! 3. Stupid penalties. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. Nice hold on Moormans run. 4. PLEASE BLOCK FOR EDWARDS! Man, we can really see the difference when he has blocking, darn near picks apart the opposing D with good bloocking, looks rather ordinary with zero blocking. 5. Not ready for prime-time players. Move over SNL, these are truly the NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME PLAYERS! Second game in a row were we just gave up. I don't know what it is, we come out like gangbusters then all of a sudden we crap out. I suspect it has alot to do with the O-line and D-line. When we put zero pressure on the QB, picked apart...again. When we can't run or pass block, well just watch the game and see what happens. I would love to see Marshawn be able to JUST RUN THE BALL! He can't even get the 2 yards most runners get with a good o-line push. He's juking 3 yards deep JUST TO GET BACK TO THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. I love this team, and think they are really good. We are just a few o-line and one d-line player from being really good.

Sorry, but I am so ticked off, I wanted this to be able to be read on the main page, not buried in the game day thread. Thanks.

1. Outcoached...AGAIN! Hey Mangenius, way to teach your player to step out of bounds while recovering a kickoff. 2. We cannot run the ball. Don't need to say a thing here! 3. Stupid penalties. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. Nice hold on Moormans run. 4. PLEASE BLOCK FOR EDWARDS! Man, we can really see the difference when he has blocking, darn near picks apart the opposing D with good bloocking, looks rather ordinary with zero blocking. 5. Not ready for prime-time players. Move over SNL, these are truly the NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME PLAYERS! Second game in a row were we just gave up. I don't know what it is, we come out like gangbusters then all of a sudden we crap out. I suspect it has alot to do with the O-line and D-line. When we put zero pressure on the QB, picked apart...again. When we can't run or pass block, well just watch the game and see what happens. I would love to see Marshawn be able to JUST RUN THE BALL! He can't even get the 2 yards most runners get with a good o-line push. He's juking 3 yards deep JUST TO GET BACK TO THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. I love this team, and think they are really good. We are just a few o-line and one d-line player from being really good.

I agree. If Favre is allowed time, with little pressure he will pick apart our depleted secondary. If Pennington can burn us for 300 yards with his garbage arm, imagine what Favre could do.

And not to rehash this, again, TG did not want to play in Buffalo and would have killed a trade to us. Also, Royal does need to go, or at least not starting. Schouman should start (best of the rest) and get Fine on the field and get some experience. I know he just got back, but get him out their. I just can't stand seeing Royal play his butt off in a game were we have a good lead. Get him in a situation we need him and he drops multiple passes or if he even does catch it, FUMBLES IT! Hey, how about Peters at TE and move Walker to LT?