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It’s always good to remember that other people are not involved in the conversations apparently bouncing around your head, I asked if what we saw was a meltdown. You replied “Nah”, presumably not seeing a meltdown either. What truth can’t be handled by some? Actually this is much more melt-downy than the Tucker clip.

That’s a “complete meltdown”?

I know you’re a probably a Tory, but you would make a great democrat stateside.

Now you’ve done it, you’ve gone and apologized. Sh$t just got real. I really don’t have many rules for engagement here, but these are them: 1. I don’t say something here I wouldn’t say to someone’s face; 2. I don’t take much personally here; 3. I will acknowledge when I am wrong if proven incorrect on a point, or acknowledge a point made that I was unaware of if I’m enlightened. @oldmanfan took me to church on an FDR quote (though rumor is it’s because he attended high school with him and may have been an usher when he married Eleanor) Section 3 (I can’t find his screen name but he’s around) taught me something on legal terminology, @Muppyprovided a different perspective on off the cuff comments I made about a politician and so on. 4. I’m a conservative leaning guy with liberal tendencies in some cases, but the guy I argue with today might be the guy holding the door for me at Home Depot tomorrow. I’m not interested in ongoing hostilities; Thanks for the acknowledgement on the error, apology accepted and I withdraw my comments regarding you and Andy NGO. I felt dirty typing that but in the moment I did not like being accused of things I’m not responsible for. I also think you’re wrong about @B-Man, but he’s a capable dueler and can handle that himself. Anyways, in the big picture I get your perspective, and I think it’s not uncommon for people to feel that way. However, what I’ve read, and from the people I’ve spoken with directly impacted by rioting and looting is that they are no more interested in being victimized by some jackass looking to rage than by a police officer gone rogue. Bottom line is the Rite Aid burning in the inner city isn’t good for the public it serves. I’m a small business owner, and that impacts my point of view, but truly, the man or woman—black, white, Hispanic, Asian etc— who puts heart, soul and money into a business venture doesn’t want to see their life work torched with a Molotov cocktail or looted by some opportunistic white kid. Building a business is hard at times, rebuilding is hard and emotionally taxing and in many cases the young entrepreneur who struck out on his own has aged and my not want to start again. It’s quite common for business owners to forgo insurance, or be underinsured and that adds to the challenge. Finally, people count on them for services, for presence in the community to attract other business, and obviously for employment. Now, if you want to debate the relative merits of the Floyd family seeking vengeance’s against Chauvin and his property, well, that’s different. “Horsecockery” was lifted directly from an episode of Trailer Park Boys. The scene and delivery was Emmy worthy. Have a good night.

This is the stupidity you get when an individual wealthy beyond the wildest dreams of most people (besides @Chef Jim) harnesses what can be described as near absolute power— shameless tone deaf platitudes that are the modern day equivalent of “Let them eat cake”.

Correct, it’s not normal for a police officer to murder citizens. It’s actually quite rare in the grand scheme of things, but no less important that the process of investigating and bringing the murderer to justice be complete. Just like if the murderer was an accountant, crip, or the glass guy who fixes the window at the Rite Aid. If, however, you see it as Rite Aid’s role to suffer the consequences, or the family owned pizza shop to bear the burden of the weight of past injustices, said judgment being rendered by some dopey kid in a skeleton mask bought at Party City, well that’s the height of horsecockery.

I’m not so sure both are wrong. One clearly is, the desire to shield citizens from harm and protect the integrity of our justice system. The approach to whistleblower protection is complicated at best. A whistleblower providing sealed testimony about known deficiencies in the Tesla auto pilot system is one thing, a political operative claiming he heard someone say that someone else said something as they passed the lunch lounge is another. It’s often the equivalent of the unnamed source deep within spewing manipulative crap to shape a narrative. I’d think some common ground could be found here. These people deserve anonymity, and some douche with a press pass sniffing around their jock ain’t doing nothing for the greater good.

The only question for me is that if and when there is fallout, and one of the jurors or family members are hurt, injured, threatened or killed*, is retribution against the reporter fair? *Our friend Logic would insist here that we make it clear that said injury/death/destruction must be considered in context, and in this case would only occur because the jurors were selected to sit in judgement on a very volatile and horrific dealing with an case that’s very complex and involves the death of a man in police custody, and that the juror(s) may share culpability in some unknown way/shape/form because people are fed up with in associated parties unknown to them. I hope that I have done justice to the notion of context. He put the ‘ass’ in asphalt!

I feel like it did occur but did not go live because the investigative arm of the plan refused to comply. I don’t want to oversimplify this, because common sense tells me that curfews and police stops in general have the same sorta vibe if not properly managed but stopping, questioning and punishing a citizen for walking on the street seems far beyond reasonable. The fact that it happened on a provincial level actually makes me even more uncomfortable than it would if it was country-wide. It amounts to some mid-level bureaucrats—likely ignoring the order they seek to enforce—-coming up with a plan to harass people and generate revenue. I understand your position, and your feelings about taking care of the collective, but to institute across the board seems extreme. As this is a Chauvin thread, I’ll bow out gracefully at this time—though not because some fat boy politician tells me I must, I do so of my own volition. @Niagara Bill slayed it here. #weareCanadatoday

What are your thoughts about the police in your country being conscripted to make random stops of citizens to ask folks for their papers? Or, of the police departments refusing to comply? It seems an attempt at turning citizens against citizens, no? And why stop at street corners, if it’s about public health and the temporary measures due to COVID, shouldn’t the police be empowered to do random checks of residences? #defundtheMounties https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadian-police-refuse-provincial-order-make-random-stops-amid-covid-19-surge-2021-04-17/

I don’t make the movie posters Tibsy’s, that’s Holllywood!! Take it up with Harvey Weinstein or Tom Cruise.

You lost me here. The “right path” is giving the benefit of the doubt to sadism? Isn’t the right path the right path? Why would we (societally speaking) actively cheer for the wrong path? Isn’t that the path best described as ‘string em up?”. I actually think following the right path is the entire &$&$ing forest, as difficult, painful and fraught with hypocrisy (again, societally speaking) as that can be at times.

Actual text message between wh-anarchists: mt @ strbx lode up b4 we go y? I wl get sumpin dare no kan do. burnt lst sumer. dis is bl sht im out

Righto, best to allow him to respond as he chooses, or not. As a casual observer, you probably wouldn’t know he lied about what few thoughts I shared on the Capitol riots, and things I may or may not have linked to. I’m not sure why he chose that path, but he did. Could be he’s an emotional soul who got me confused with another poster, maybe someone named Marshall Tucker or Molly Hatchet. In the end, to avoid taking it personally, I assumed that ole Log was interested in playing “Let’s just make up ****” game for reasons known only to him. So, I replied in kind by making some **** up about what he said because that’s the way the “Let’s just make up ****” game is played. You have to have context, you know?

All this on @Chef Jim ‘s sausage and the spores emanating from within, but scientific alligator arms on mass protests involving tens of thousands of individuals from all walks of life, in cities across the country, week after week after week... Of course, it’s started again as the weather Not a concern from the White House about the spread, das Fauch making his media rounds missing opportunity after opportunity to appeal to people that if you’re going to loot and burn, for God’s sake get vaccinated first! On the bright side, in NY, turns out COVID does not start bar-hopping until midnight in NY.

Nope, don’t got it. Can’t follow your thought process on waving the banner for context in support of anarchists when someone is victimized by parties unknown for something they had nothing to do with. Can’t follow your thought process on death, destruction, serious injury by any party at any time just because you have some twisted rationalization as to cause. I think, honestly, that’s you’re as full of ***** as the guy lugging the toaster oven out of Walmart in support of George Floyd. As for the game you’re playing with the Capitol Protests and “links” or “support” from me, again, you’re obviously full of crap. Since that’s the game you’re interested in playing, I know at least that you’ve linked or at least commented multiple times about the anti-Asian bias problem in this country and how it’s all bs and a right wing conspiracy. Your targeting of Andy Ngo is just another in a long line of that type of garbage, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Seriously Logic, this is as weak as it gets. It’s bullsh*t of the highest order, and just to provide context, burning some &$*& to the ground because you feel like burning some &$*& doesn’t really require context. I know this because tens of millions of people who hear the same story don’t set their neighbors house on fire, throw concrete cinderblocks at the mailman’s head or loot the Dollar General when they hear it. Sounds to me like the Ngo/Prosobiec version was spot on.

Yup, reasonable concern. My thought is that a lot of the mental health issue can be traced back to our societal desire to tell every child born over the past 25 years that they have mental health issues, combined with a 24 hour news cycle that reminds them that they should be worried 24 hours a day, and the proliferation of pharmaceutical drugs to treat same.

I’ve heard that and it’s why I’m still contemplating a year or two after beginning to contemplate. 🙄

I’m warming up to the idea myself. Been a long time since college, and I seemed pretty happy then. And if not happy, hungry. And yeah, people were always laughing at me and out to get me but i made it.

I would quit that job pronto, but that’s just me.

You’re trying to tell me the lines weren’t always on the map? How would people know which state they lived in? Yeah, ok. Grow up.

Interesting point. I’ve struggled with the argument that the officer targeted this young man for assassination with two other police officers, one of whom is a trainee, and set it up to look like she was grabbing a taser when she knew he was going to run. Part of it is the incredible amount of planning it would take in the short period of time from when they encountered his vehicle to the shooting. Part of it is the video evidence, from body cameras that are worn by the officers to help clarify these often tragic interactions. Then again, maybe they all just watched Denzel in “Training Day” and it was just a matter of time.