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I think you've hopelessly romanticized the good old days when everyone loved country and the free press was free. One critical difference between then and now is the access to information (and of course the proliferation of disinformation). Back in the day, the flow of information was much more restricted. Btw--I'll have to see if I can find it, but I have an old Newsweek magazine from the late 1950s. Millhouse is quoted in there about certain politicians in an attempt to connect them to the Commies. There are no new ideas, just recycled controversies.

Tibsy is a scaredy-cat.

She was an insider candidate, a beltway figure, who most certainly was meeting with designers for the redo of the Oval Office well before election day. Who can blame her? She had survived a reputation as a classic enabler, server scandal, the death of a diplomat and the controversy surrounding the attempt to blame some poor b*stard for causing that, and the fact that her closest allies described her as reckless and careless with national security. Again--that wasn't her detractors--focused more on the legalities of what she did or didn't do--those were key members of Dem entrenched leadership singing loudly that a Secretary of State playing fast and loose with matters of State wasn't a big deal. She was the heir apparent. On some level, no doubt, she sees herself as a better candidate than Bill, Barrack or Biden. She's a narcissist, most of these people are, and the stage was set for the coronation and all the first Female President of the free world. The election of DJT, and the obvious animosity and self-loathing that followed, broke her. I don't think it's a stretch to say she was completely devastated by it all, completely unaware of how millions of people viewed her as a human and a candidate. That is to say, in the world of politics, where average folks see sleaze, grift and corruption as part of the DNA of these people, there was a special level of disdain for her. Trump is an entirely different type of human being. Hate him or not, he has a prodigious ability to withstand assault from every direction, to take the shots, deal with the fallout and respond with a hearty "FU" while laughing directly in the face of the those who seek to take him down. He's a fascinating human being in that regard. If you think he's in denial, or more aptly put, if you think he's behaving as such because he sees himself as a victim, you haven't been paying attention.

She's accused him of being an illegitimate president and has claimed the election was stolen from her. She was an integral part of the Russia collusion narrative, partnering with an agent of a foreign government to spread disinformation about the entire campaign. She has not acknowledged, and never will, her role in promoting a conspiracy theory about illicit ties between Putin and Trump which fractured the nation for the last 5 or 6 years. Class? Not at all.

I feel like I know where you stand on when you feel anarchy is appropriate, but thank you, I’ll allow it.

I don’t completely disagree with you w/r to the riots v 1/6, but you disavow any similarity between the anarchy across the country and the anarchy at the Capitol?

Exactly. The stage was set for claims of a “stolen election” regardless of which candidate won in 2020. It started when the Dems made claims of an illegitimate Trump election pre-2016, and continued the claim through the 2020 elections. On the other hand, politically speaking, polls are part of the debate and run up to elections. Reading the tea leaves, or if you prefer manipulating the data, is all part of the process.

Bob, the seat of power In this country has now been breached by guys in faux fur and a bunch of man-bunned libs who play with sockpuppets and work on the late night telly. Maybe this is all for the greater good.

“All your earthly dreams and aspirations will go mup in smoke if you play with weeds in the devil’s sandbox!” -Someone, probably, in the 1940s I don’t smoke, and I’m not much of a drinker these days. I consider returning to my college days of casual use, but sometimes I think…”Why?”. I’ve spoken with Bob on this issue, and the issue of relief from chronic pain that marijuana is said to bring. If one can find relief, I say go all in. The only challenge I can see, should such misfortune befall me or my loved ones, is how to get in front of him when he has all those frequent flier punches on his ticket. Peace out Stoner!

100% correct Bob. I had no point to make, just thought it was funny on a Saturday morning. Lame, perhaps, but funny.

Are you concerned you have Buttinski Disorder? (I’m in recovery. I relapsed, but you probably knew that already)

We’re on the “The President can’t control anything…” cycle right now. Let’s circle back around to “The President is responsible for everything…” at the appropriate time.

It's interesting that yesterday, while discussing allegations by Tibs of wrongdoing by Representative Loudermilk, another posted offered this a similar story about the disconnect between the DOJ and the committee as proof that Loudermilk was being investigated by the DOJ. Of course, the link said nothing about Loudermilk, likely because Loudermilk's actions were already cleared by the Capitol police per a story I linked. However, in a nugget of gold mixed in with garbage that poster is know for producing, the link indicated the DOJ investigation was being 'hampered' by the committee's actions. With this story, it's a "failure to grant...access". One can only wonder about who and what are being investigated by the DOJ. It certainly could be that they flipped Loudermilk and it's all smoke screen. Still....it sounds an awful lot like the 1/6 dem committee is stonewalling or obstructing the necessary criminal investigation into this matter.

I heard somewhere that @SoCal Deek drives a fully tricked out Ford F450, leather seats, and when not redesigning the So Cal landscape with buildings that are environmentally chaotic and displace the community of San Diego snapping turtle that call the area home, he eats BLT sammies while listening to conservative talk radio with the sunroof open, windows rolled down and AC on max. Now all this. I miss the days when Friday was Funday.

To 6?

Ironically, if it was under the USA TODAY handle…. 🧐

The problem for me isn’t the expectation that I will ever get 100% of the facts about events, it’s that historically speaking, the percentage of times the narrative provided was subsequently proven to be false is quite high. Looking at the events over the 4 or 5 years, we’ve morphed from a massive number of people believing that the president was illegitimate or in power as a result of a coup….to a time where a massive amount of people believing the presidential election was stolen and this illegitimate. Over the last 4 or 5 years, we’ve gone from a time when a massive number of people screamed that the duly elected president and his government could not be trusted, that our system was not just, chronically infected with systemic racism, and that nothing that came from Washington could be trusted….to a time when suddenly in November 2020, those same people were heard to be peddling “trust without question, all is well, everything was done exquisitely” when a massive number of people didn’t trust the outcome not unlike their fellow citizens just 4 years earlier. Over just a couple short years, we went from the start of a pandemic where millions of lives were at risk and people screaming “DO SOMETHING” and a president assembling a task force that delivered vaccines in record time, to a shot time later deaths under the new admin eclipsing those from the prior in spite of the vaccine and the very same people mumbling meekly “Well what’s he supposed to do?”. I think we would probably agree that history tells us blind faith in the US government is not warranted nor advisable, even when it suits your own innate political bias. Actually, I think especially when it suits your own political bias. From stories of mob ties to the Kennedy admin, to the massive lies of Vietnam, Watergate, FBI under Hoover, Iran-Contra, the Keating 5, Agent Orange, the FDA and Perdue, War for Oil, WMDs, Benghazi, One Colluision Two Colluision Three Collusion Oops forget it Obstruction….and so many more, trusting without question is long dead and buried. So, I respect your right to go all in and trust the narrative without question. One could say, I suppose, if you can’t trust a select subcommittee of representatives from congress and high-ranking DOJ officials refusing to confirm/deny pretty much anything to give you the full, unvarnished truth about everything….. Still, I’ll respect historical perspective and wait and see.

That’s the nature of a question, Billst. I assumed everyone knew that. Fortunately, the internet assumes some basic understanding of grammar, sentence structure, punctuation etc, but it can be a tolerant and forgiving place for folks who may have skipped grades 1-12. Interestingly, the humble question mark is near universally accepted as the go-to punctuation when a query is in play, but it’s first recorded usage only dates back to 1862. I feel I like that’s significant, but don’t want those wheels of yours grinding away on this whole question thing. I offer: What a ride. What, a ride? What a ride!

And yet, I forgive you for your inhumanity and your hubris. God Bless you. As was my response, soldier. Again, I tried.

Why are you asking me a question based on an assertion made by Tibs? I had the same question, that’s why I asked Tibsy what more he had beyond what had transpired to that point: 1. That he alleged something about the specific actions of a representative, including a full-throated frothy declaration that he be locked up; 2. That I searched the internet and found no indication of a criminal probe into the specific actions of the targeted representative that Tibs wants locked up; 3. That I found the Capitol Police stating there was nothing suspicious about the actions of the representative in question and the actions that Tibs specifically feels were criminal involving something like abetting a riot and breaking and entering. He declined to provide additional information, but did manage to accuse me of supporting the downfall of the Republic because I said that congressional tours are pretty freaking common. In your response, you included a generic statement about concerns the 1/6 committee is hampering* the DOJ criminal probe and has requested all transcripts. Is it your contention that the statement you provided deals specifically with the discussion Tibs and I were having? If it’s one of the “specific prosecutions” mentioned in your post, please, share. *Hampering criminal probe”. That’s interesting.

I do care about the Republic, Tibsy, probably more than you when Russiagate collapsed like the North Wall in Game of Thrones, S 7. I’m just a realist, and limit my suspension of same for amusement park rides, movies and a good tv series like GOT. For a while back when I was a young guy, Farrah Fawcett was on the list as well. Stop the political jabberwocky, get some charges filed outside this demo circle jerk and we can talk. Maybe Jennifer I Stand With Ukraine Rubin is on to something here.

I acknowledged your point in my post, Jauronimo. I’ll summarize again just to be clear: “It’s complicated and goes beyond the current occupant in the White House”. We agree, not sure how you missed that. Since this is a political board, I responded from the political perspective. I indicated that, too. It seems we agree that Biden, his admin and those past have, or had the ability to impact what’s happening today in a way that would have been a net positive for the American consumer. I don’t see the harm in stating that. I don’t live in the energy capital of the world like you do. It’s entirely possible and quite probable that I’m not all read into the happenings in the energy field beyond some tactical investments here and there. I do live in Albany, though, which if not the Politically-Motivated-BS Capital of the world, it’s top 2 in the country. Seems to me that when talking candidly about all the elements of the current crisis, it’s silly, petty and in poor form to suggest that including Biden’s role as part of the conversation is a “cheap shot” or that any “patting on the back” necessarily ensues. If Biden’s policies, words and actions come back to bite him at the ballot box—and I certainly hope they do—point your finger in the right direction. Thanks for stopping by. No sarcasm intended (now, anyway), you seem to be a very informed guy and I take what you have said for consideration. I appreciate it.

It was an ugly day in our history to be sure. Law enforcement should punish wrongdoers, the guilty pursued, and the lack of security addressed with transparency. I have zero faith in the transparency leg, which taints pretty much everything else.

And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? Did you try emailing them directly…maybe give them your pager number? Seriously, you have to have more than this.