dickleyjones

I understand why they would lie 1000s of times - to fulfill their communist agenda. What part of the communist agenda includes defending Trump?

How could the communist news do this?

"communist" being a label is what i suspect. Been that way a long time, here we go again. But i am not above discourse on the topic. It appears those that throw out that word ARE above discours. Ah well, i seek to understand, it eludes me for now no thanks to the posters who really can't have proper discourse for some reason. On price control, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. Imo it's kind of a do nothing promise as it does not solve anything. But it might make someone feel good so it's an ok strategy.

The list is a work of fiction as i already pointed out. It says so right in your post. And even if it were really written by actual american communists, you fail to acknowledge that this list is mostly a guide to power for any political entity. One that is followed by entities i think you support. One that has been followed by multiple entities throughout history. I won't bother showing you how, for example, "control education" is a pursuit followed by nearly every political entity in existence. Do i agree that dems will pull all sorts of ***** like the list? Of course! That's what political parties do. The r's are doing the exact same thing in their own way. You could check most of the boxes for them on that list. Does that make R's communists too? I can only imagine that you avoid roosevelt discussion because it does not fit your narrative at all. And because it's a jumping off point for further discussion of how many many (many!) so called anti communists do so called communist things.

It is an interesting list. and let me say i do appreciate you conversing with me honestly about your position. i really do seek to understand. i wish we could find the actual list or minutes from the communist party from back then to see how it aligns. in their own words. as it stands this is the work of an author who may very well have been in the know. he probably has some bias because of his strong faith. one thing that strikes me is the many ways the list is unlike the current Chinese gov: eliminating oaths, eliminating censorship, promoting pornography and LGBT, promoting riots, defunding police, discrediting family. the list mostly reads as a guide for any political force to take power. plenty of this list applies to both Rs and Ds and govs across the world: permit free trade, foreign aid, control schools, promote protests, control media, control unions, control big business. none of this is unique to communism. the pro LGBT and pro social religion stuff just the other side of promoting religion which are all forms of controlling others (especially children, in schools, in media...). i mean, sure, atheism and communism go together, but atheism is not prevalent. i suppose you can add non-religious which IS increasing. but non religious is not necessarily communist. the original author of this piece was a very religious person, his views come through in the list. communist China agrees with him on the LGBT issues. ok, i had better stop or @B-Man is gonna shoot more beavers at me. i really would like to hear your thoughts on Roosevelt being a communist (or not).

open borders like communist China? afaik their immigration is locked down quite hard. doesnt seem very communist to me. trans cult in communist china? they dont even allow gay people to marry. being trans appears to be even worse. lawfare in communist china now thats valid. from what i see you guys have been doing that to each other (rs and ds) for some time. although I absolutely grant you that the president was mostly off limits until recently. and thank you @B-Man i love me some beavers.

fair enough. i assume the same applies for the myriads of other politicians over the years, from both sides, who do "commie things"? it doesn't seem that way. instead it seems like the current enemy is the dems and that yelling commie is a tactic which may get the right out to vote. either that or there must be a threshold that is crossed where one moves from "doing commie things but not a communist" to "actual communist"

but nixon gets a pass for reasons. let's do roosevelt next? it seems he was more extreme commie than nixon.

how are they allowed to disagree under this communist rule?

I live just outside of hamilton, just on the fringe of a rural area. I live in a 4bd house with a lovely 1 acre yard. I feel blessed to live where i do at low cost. I have been living here for 20 years now, so i'm a rather extreme example of rent control. Thankfully my landlords would rather have good people taking care of their house than go through the difficult and legally dubious process of kicking us out and replacing us.

Communist is as communist does. Unless?

Yeah, i feel abused. I guess i should prefer my rent to double at the whim of my landlord? I currently pay $1700 (4 bd) my rent would easily be $3500 - $4000 if i moved to a similar place. That said i totally agree that gov has dropped the ball on housing. It has been that way since the 90s. But it's not only because of price control (rent control), that's a drop in the bucket. It's many things. Foreign owners are a problem. Not building enough, especially right now. I think the worst is corporate ownership. To quote Irv, it's a mess.

Huh til Nixon was a communist too!

I mean the higher earning middle are the ones who used the first time home buyers the most. Lower middle and less still can't afford and now the cost is up even more. So, it benefits a few if you are one of the lucky ones that's nice. At the same time, some must now climb even higher than before. I will certainly take advantage when it is my turn to buy. Cell phone plans. We are notoriously expensive. In 2019 a mid tier plan was ~$75. Everyone knew we were being screwed. Now the same tier (slightly upgraded because tech) is ~$35. in addition, cell companies can no longer charge cancellation fees after 2 years, must unlock your phone upon request, and there is now a cap on roaming and data overage charges. in my case, living in a rural area and using cell data, my bill was around $300 per month for two plans (high even by canadian standards). Now it's about $40 with the occasional overage charges of another $50. My current plan is $20. Add to all numbers 13% tax.

if that's all it takes you guys were communists back in ww2. or heck, before that even with minimum wage. or breaking up monopolies. so i guess by that standard this means Roosevelt was your OG communist? i really dont know here, genuine question.

i think you can say stupid things and not be stupid. happens all the time. You are right, being in congress does not necessarily mean smart, but it usually takes some smarts to get there. maybe savvy is a better word.

even if that is all true (questionable but ill bite) becoming a lawyer takes at least some semblance of intelligence. i find it very hard to believe any person in congress is not smart. people may hate them, disagree, whatever, chances are you need some smarts to get that far. well that, and a total lack of morality but that's a different problem. i suppose it depends on your definition of smart. politics requires so much dirty work it is inevitable you will not be liked and the same with your positions. maybe she is an exception. maybe she is not smart. but to call the notion "preposterous" is silly. it is at least a reasonable take.

we don't have much sand, but we do have snow. too cold to put my head in though and plus im too busy being afraid of great leader trudeau to have time for that. as for the policies, im not even saying i think they are a good idea. but i am saying they are not communist. im canada, first time home buyers seems to favour the higher earning middle class who dont need it as much. although i have friends who benefited directly which is nice. a real meh policy on the whole. still, most here agree that the corporatization of real estate has been negative for us. price fixing has helped tremendously on our cell phone plans prices. we were being gouged (highest cost in the world i think). at the same time our grocers, mostly owned by like three families nationwide, have all been found guilty of price collusion etc. some have had to pay consumers (we all got like $25 for a bread price fixing scandal lol) but most continue to get away with it because launching countless lawsuits just doesnt happen around here. anyways i understand you don't like the policies. i think they probably dont do much ie are prefomative. but to call them communist lol i dont know why but the more i see it the funnier I think it is.

ahahah yeah, "look out! commies!" isnt a strawman itself at all. i do admit it is funny though. the policies are roughly the same as they have been for years and years. nothing new. but please do continue i need a good laugh each morn.

ahaha this commie stuff is great. til im living in a communist country! oh boy! all hail dictator trudeau! im sure when he inevitably loses the next election he will refuse to step down and we will be happy about it.

"The suggestion you made that Harris is "smart" is preposterous" this statement is preposterous. disagree with politics etc that makes sense. to say calling her smart is preposterous? like there is no basis in reality to call her smart? i barely know the womam, but to become a lawyer, then DA, then senator, then vp takes some smarts no matter how you spin it. it reads the exact same as when the silly lefties call trump stupid. there is just no way it is true despite how desperately they want it to be.

i don't even give them that much credit. they didn't "know" ***** (for a while, anyways). just like us plebs, there are some politicians who think complying with such a rule is below them. "rules for thee not for me" - now that's something all politicians can agree on!

you said: "Monkeypox is a gay centric disease and those most likely to get it are promiscuous men. Lying about it does not protect them and being a monogamous gay relationship should keep them safe." i suppose i interpreted the "lying about it" to mean the (so called) experts (CDC, WHO, etc). maybe you just meant the poster you were responding to. i think i conflated your comment with others here who are saying the experts are not talking about gay men being at high risk. anyways, no harm was intended.

The point is, it specifically addresses the high risk for gay men. I was told that was not being done.

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/mpox/vaccines/vaccine-recommendations.html so this seems right then. much ado about nothing? totally agree. i think most doctors are culpable in particular. which hurts to say because i know many who risked much to get us through. they just need to stop pretending they are epidemiologists.