Nephilim17

Dorian is not a big LB but he can hit...

All you guys complaining about our D scheme, Hill and Waddle have NO YARDs and it's the third quarter. I'll take giving up some run yardage for that.

This is the Bills-Dynasty Patriots moment where the lesser team that has been hanging on gives way to the better team...

The scheme is predicated not giving up big plays and requires a LOT of play to score. The higher the number of plays in a drive, the higher the chance of a mistake, like a fumble. IMHO.

The scheme got us the fumble recovery.

And that's the bend but don't break reason why...

A decent kicker makes this...

Too bad Allen has lost a step!

Bad drop by Cook.

I don't think Harlan has mentioned that Josh threw a pick enough. Especially given it was a good throw.

Not Josh's fault. After avoiding picks for 7 games and getting lucky on some bad throws not being picked, bad luck is happening to. The way it goes. Coleman has to hold on.

Nice to see Josh throw there for 14 instead of run, which he would often do.

27 - 20 Bills

I believe we have 115 points in 3 home games. That means we need 45 tomorrow to get to 40 average.

It's a money thing. Keeping him. I'm still not totally confident Bass will be making kicks over 50 yards in clutch time, like many good kickers do. And the way championship-calibre teams need. What's the longest kick he's made in the last few weeks, maybe 42 yards or something?

You could be right. I qualified it based on the last couple games where Cooper looked good in the first and Coleman is trending up and we know Shakir is very good as a slot guy. If Cooper disappears down the stretch this could be a very average group. But if Coleman continues this trajectory and Cooper is good for 50 or 60 yards most games I'd say it could be "good."

In spite of us apparently having a good group WRs now I'd still like to see Beane take an outside speed WR in the first few founds of the next draft. Even if we sign Cooper to a short deal. Keep the pipeline going with high-ceiling young talent.

What would a Khalil Mack trade take? A time machine?

Joe Marino in a recent podcast brings up some good points about how we now (including Cooper) appear to be far better with out top-3 WRs than we would be if we kept Steph and Gabe: Regarding Diggs diminishing vertical game and Davis this year: - Diggs is still producing this year (prior to injury) but his vertical game is diminishing: his average depth of target was just 8.3 yards; last year it was 10.5 and in prior years "pushing 12 yards," says Joe - over half of his snaps are from the slot; he's become a slot WR; Joe says that still has value but "there's a trajectory to be mindful of" - Gabe Davis this year in on pace for 40 catches, 400-something yards and 4 TDs this year — for $13 million; "this speaks to the limitations I've been talking about for years; you cannot view Davis as a legitimate number 2 WR; he's too limited. A limited football player in a prominent role in your offense constipates your offense. There's not a piece of me that misses Gabe Davis." - "So would I rather have Diggs and Davis or Coleman, Cooper and Sharkir in a prominent role? C'mon, of course I would rather have what the Bills have right now." Regarding Josh this year with his new WRs: - It's unlocked more for Allen who has never been more efficient, says Joe - Why is that? Josh is not worried about 160 targets going to Diggs - And Josh no longer is on the "ridiculous journey to validate Davis as a true number 2 WR." - "Those burdens have been lifted." - Josh is now more efficient than ever Looking into Josh's stats, his comp % is not at a career high but his TD/INT ratio is (yes, I've heard the points that a lot is luck and he should have more picks thus far) but the eye test says Josh is playing smarter. And Josh's QBR is a tick better than his prior best. Let's see where Josh ends up after 17 games but I think Marino is on point about how this mix of WRs is better than what we'd have with Steph and Gabe and Josh is liberated to be efficient and not feed any guy balls based on salary and #1 or #2 designation. See around 15:40 of Joe's podcast for this discussion... - Hard to argue.

That's all fine and dandy but Rogers needs the find the Fountain of Better QBR. 85.1 isn't exactly in line with this glory days. And not good enough to get his team where he's paid to take them — to playoff victories.

Let's save this dicussion till after the playoffs are done.

*****, until now I assumed we we're talking Joe Brady — yes, I tuned out the "broadcast" part... Just thought it was some post-game press thing. So Tom said this... silly bastard. You'd think with all the media training he wouldn't go there on live TV. My daughter has autism and doesn't like the R word. She's not the only one who doesn't. If a sizable group of people who are different from the mainstream find a word hurtful, can't we be human enough to respect them and use a different word? I'm not the politically correct police BTW and love Bill Burr and Dave Chapelle, FWIW. I just think we need to reconsider some non-consequential (to us) uses of language if a lot of people are hurt by them. If it means a lot to someone else, can't we try to do a little better with a different choice of words? But go f***ing nuts, all of you who think saying what you want is the most important thing and f*** it if people are hurt by it.

I don't agree. If this is a slur against people with disabilities and most of the non-disabled population aren't aware of that, I think it's basic human respect to listen to the people hurt by it and try to evolve. The same could be said of a lot of slurs over the decades. If you had a kid who was disabled, or a brother, or an cousin, and this word hurt them, why would you not want people to understand it and try to do better? Now, if 99% of disabled people have zero problem with the word, it's a different story. In my opinion. Why decide for others what they should or should not tolerate?

Perhaps a more interesting poll and debate would have been this: 1. Coleman and 2nd round pick (turned into Bishop) vs... 2. Brian Thomas Jr.

The Bills make you eat; the Bills make me drink. Win or lose.