Joe Ferguson forever

it's true on it's face. Wait til they call Pence and Barr to testify to it. They've already said it publicly and repeatedly to investigators but not under oath in a nationally televised trial. Even after that you'll cling to this lie. but it is a tactic used by trump. Stephanie Grisham has said that trump often told her that if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes truth.

not in the Capitol while trying to overturn a prez election. how many pages in the fascist handbook are devoted to the art of whataboutism?

because he's not a partisan hack🤣 perhaps he was promised a mid tier propaganda position....

yes. now answer my question.

This was added. wanna make sure you get a chance to answer Do you dream of chaos and authoritarianism? do you win in that scenario? I suppose we both could but at the expense of our souls. Edited just now by redtail hawk

yes. And I don't recall an insurrection, martial law or fake electors. wtf is wrong with you? Do you dream of chaos and authoritarianism? do you win in that scenario? I suppose we both could but at the expense of our souls.

nope. no difference. he lost, knew it and even discussed using martial law to remain. That's not a parliamentary lever, nor is threatening his VP, orchestrating a fake elector scheme, demanding votes be found or encouraging an insurrection. If he had stopped after 60 failed lawsuits and multiple failed recounts, you'd be correct. But he did not. By a long shot.

Really. So his own cabinet members, VP and employees are lying? What would you suppose their motivation to do that is.? Some have lost their careers or even their freedom from prison as a result. As Barr said, trump leaves people in his wake and loyalty is a one way proposition.

just stop...not for lying but for conspiring to overturn a valid election that he was well aware that he lost.

yes, in a Brett Kavanaugh kind of way...with the booze but without the sexual misconduct (i mean there was some but not by me) or the radical right ideology. nobody's perfect. it was a competitive place. the opposite of communism or socialism and that's good, right?

Many of my classmates are now just your average professionals or executives. It's an above average gene pool. So I guess you're correct. But insecurity was never a prevalent attitude among my friends.

this house was mid century modern as well. On NF country club.

By rumor, we almost had Frank Sinatra as a resident. There's a house on the escarpment he was supposedly interested in.

Moose Johnston sucked in the NFL...

nobody from little Lewiston ever succeeds in life😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Lewiston,_New_York btw, double negatives were frowned upon at Lewiston schools.

we're both from Lewiston so not all that surprising. Similar, happy upbringing I suspect...but I also suspect we are very different people in daily life. Viva la difference! https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-indictment-insurrection-act-co-conspirators-rcna97773 This is truly chilling if unsurprising. The scumbags were planning a coup and violence was/is on the table. Do you see these actions as defensible? reasonable? According to the indictment, Philbin repeatedly discouraged Trump and his loyalists from trying to stay in the White House beyond the end of his term. In December, he allegedly told Trump, “There is no world, there is no option in which you do not leave the White House [o]n January 20th.” Then on the afternoon of Jan. 3, Philbin apparently tried to dissuade “Co-Conspirator 4” from trying to assume the role of acting attorney general as part of a reported bid to overturn the election results with Trump. He allegedly told that person that “there had not been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that if the Defendant [Trump] remained in office nonetheless, there would be ‘riots in every major city in the United States.’” The indictment alleges that Clark responded, “Well ... that’s why there’s an Insurrection Act.”

yeah, the cons here don't quote anything (except propagandists like cat crap and Julie douchebag) They just regurgitate bastardized versions of fox stories and recite their "own research".

From time to time I do...need to be aware of what the morons are watching/hearing. Then I read it again here in posts from cons. btw, using "commies" to describe liberals makes you look ignorant. Oh wait.....

Paul Gimatti is a great actor. Never seen this movie but I love "Sideways"

please cite an analogous, entangled moron that mainstream media uses as an expert on their top rated shows. Adam Kinzinger? nope, he's actually smart. but for a substantial number of MAGA's, the description is apt. the demographics bear it out, at least for education level and support for the insurrection

just watched some clips of Barr's interview w Caitlin. Extremely damning of trump and convincingly argued. but then when asked who he'd vote for if biden vs trump, he demurs. fat ass shyster hedging his bets....

dissonance....sllllllow. a tension or clash resulting from the combination of two disharmonious or unsuitable elements.

Fox news again. interviewing this moron who led the chant "lock her up". how stupid are people that buy his crap and the crap fox is selling? https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-trump-mercilessly-mocked-clueless-044643911.html

This is fox "news". an employed tv personality giving his ridiculous opinion passes for news. Reads like a manifesto for the cons on the board. "taking my freedom...wah". And describing the parties as they existed more than 50 years ago is just intellectual dishonesty. Also in common use by the acolytes. https://www.foxnews.com/media/levin-trump-indictment-sign-passive-revolution-democrats "You see what's going on. You see we're unraveling… The Democrat (sic) Party is destroying our schools, it's destroying parental rights, it's destroying the nuclear family, it's destroying people of faith. It's gone after the Catholic Church. The Democrat Party is promoting censorship in all of its departments and agencies. It's destroying our traditions," Levin said. traditions and values are not set by governments. They are set by the culture and that is controlled by populations. you'd think beef on weck had been outlawed.

Fox is the most biased network in history. Love to be a fly in this room. What do you think they discussed? Strategy to get him elected? Not what I'd bet on. Step away? "We won't push your propaganda anymore? What ya think? https://news.yahoo.com/trump-dines-fox-news-executives-180653903.html