stevestojan

I did indeed think they might take a beat. But you’re right about the “honor” thing. I just know Trump said any retaliation would be met with the worst. I hope it’s just puffing of the chest and since it didn’t impact America directly, he “allows” this latest jab from Iran. And if they do attack US bases, might as well get the marker out to redraw the map of the Middle East.

Come on man. Not at all what I said. But Trump said any retaliation would be met with (whatever version of huge he chose this time) retaliation. He didn’t say against America. He said against Israel or America. They waited less than 24 hours. I hope you’re right and he sees this as a continuation of the previous week - I truly do. I was just hoping (ignorantly, I know) that they would have taken a pause for a few days at least to not face what’s next… which is almost certainly more American involvement.

Now Iran fires missies at Israel. Regardless of what side you’re on in regards to trumps actions - and we’ve all made it clear where we individually stand on that- this is about as stupid and FAFO as you can get. I mean most us knew they would not in any way just take that hit, cry uncle, and do nothing. But watching it play out exactly how we knew it would is still something to see. Let’s just hope Trump doesn’t indeed show the destruction “like they’ve never seen” but I fear his own ego has cornered him into doing something stupid. And now that we’ve supposedly accomplished the mission of denuclearization in Iran (starting to seem like it wasn’t the resounding victory drunken Pete delayed) let those two garbage governments kill each other by way of a trillion paper cuts. But that won’t happen. So here we go again. Another forever war because Iran is doing exactly what we knew they would do. And if the reports that they moved the nuclear material before the strikes are true, we did it for… what? Hillary would have done this. Bidens handlers might have. My feelings on this aren’t partisan. They are just feelings of a guy so sick of being the hall monitor to an area of the world that willfully chooses to never be stable.

Hailee.

For those choosing to not call a clear act of war “war,” what would you call it if any country attacked NYC tomorrow with dozens of massive bombs? F.uck Iran for sure (just so some dimwits don’t spin my first sentence as some insane support of them) but if the roles were reversed, you wouldn’t consider it war because….. reasons?

Of course it was terrible. He’s an awful speaker. I was speaking in jest since his Al-Baghdadi is known as objectively one of the most embarrassing speeches by a POTUS ever. So yes. This one was better. Seems like at least this time they gave him the phonetic spellings on his teleprompter. “We love you God.” 😂

If this is true, we will never ever hear it from this administration. Im not sure how this can be confirmed - or what Drunken Pete says can be confirmed - until they either continue building a bomb (and from the rights on here, they are a country of dimwits, so unlikely) or they don’t.

Hegseth might be the most unqualified person in any government position - and that’s saying a lot with the current admiration (Weestlemania queen calling AI “A1” over and over as the secretary of education might beat him out by a nose, but I digress). But I’ll say picking nits over his choice of “our boys” (a commonly used phrase throughout military history) is why dems are seen as weak at times.

It was certainly a far step up from his al-Baghdadi speech. I’ll give him that I suppose.

I think everyone here can agree that we hope that’s what happens next.

No leaks because there weren’t any democrats involved? 😂😂😂 Jennifer Hegseth has a bridge to sell you. Dirt cheap.

Reasonable reply - truly. But regarding bolded, of course I can’t claim to be 100% sure, no. But you think - knowing what you know about Donnie - that he would have allowed Ben to take “credit” for starting this “end of nuclear capabilities in Iran?” Iran needed to be dealt with and Israel was doing their thing. Let both die if a million paper cuts. For ***** once I’d love America to not be the ones to step into that cess pool for almost no gain to America . And while other POTUS have done so of course, I can’t remember any that ran on NOT doing it as vehemently as Drumpf.

Really cute with the “cope” bulls.hit. He promised no new wars. If he ran on Iran not having nukes, why did he wait for Ben to start the bombing and not just drop a few MOABs on day one? Thought he was a leader; not a weak follower. I didn’t think you were a MAGA, honestly. But your bootlicking of the TACO president is making it clear.

Cooked? He’s an unrestrained 4 year lame duck.

Honestly not sure I follow this one; can you clarify? (and not being a dick, just not sure I follow the question.) Trump did lie, (as did many other previous POTUSes - is that the plural of the acronym? Not sure) and the spin on Twitter is incredible. But it seems to only be the true MAGAs; many standard republicans are wholly against this action as well. Also, I would feel better (if that’s possible) about this action if Trump had just run on “we’re going to ensure Iran doesn’t have nukes and if they don’t stop attempting to build one, I’ll bomb the ***** out of them” vs only taking action after Ben decided to start bombing Iran. And for the record, do I think Biden would have handled this better? I think his handlers would have. I am just so ***** sick of America being the big brother on everything in the god damned Middle East. If I was going to have voted for Trump, his promises to stay out of that cess pool would have been one of the only reasons. Americans will die because of this. So much for “America first.” Only took 4 months.

How badly you MAGAs (read: not all republican as I know many on the right are against this too) were all lied to and the best you can come up with is that previous democrat presidents lied too. Strong defense. 🙄 Just admit you fell for the conman’s cons yet again. I wonder how much of this newest forever war was caused because he has such a fragile ego he was afraid he would be called the TACO President again. I’d go research how many times he promised no new wars during his campaign but I don’t have time to count that high and it won’t matter since MAGA logic will somehow tell us that this is different than what he said to get your votes. I’d say this is unbelievable but anyone with a brain would know it’s 100% believable and was almost inevitable. God speed to any Americans in the area. Iran is surely known for taking it on the chin and just crying uncle…. This is the time to proudly have TDS. I’d wear a ***** goofy red hat that says the same.

Well, in this case I can at least say you Trumpers didn’t get what you voted for since it took him all of 152 days to break one of his biggest campaign promises. But I’m sure there’s already posts here spinning that this is somehow different or all sorts of whataboutism. What a ***** disaster.

I consider myself a pretty die hard bills fan and would have lost money if someone bet me that he was ever a Bill.

Just as tiresome and absurd as some of your fellow Rs referring to all libs as communists and pedos. But I see your point for sure. Have a good weekend. 👍

What the ***** man? You absolutely see my point. Was “fraction of a percent” not small enough for you? You’re being purposefully argumentative now. The point remains; when you have any number of people who wave nazi flags (extreme right MAGAs), or any number who claim the entire party is racist (extreme left whackos); having the POTUS claim we need fewer holidays - and say that on JUNETEENTH - it adds to the divide. Glad we’re back to calling each other dumb, though. 🙄

Give you a break? Read my post again. I said the small minority of extreme maga. So when those pictures (of Trump flags flying next to nazi flags; which represents a fraction of a percent of all republicans, the same way the purple haired freaks are a small percentage of the left) are shown as “proof of racism” by the whacko left, adding in a president who posts something like that on Juneteenth fuels their (the extreme left’s) fire. And it also fuels those same extreme MAGAs. That was my point. Come on, man. You know I’m not saying the RiGhT iS rAcIsT! What I’m saying is that when the man child pulls crap like this, it only serves to divide, by “validating” the extreme left belief that all republicans are racist, and the extreme right that “see? Even our orange leader thinks we shouldn’t have a holiday for this.” All it does is continue to divide. So I do not believe we should brush it off because an 80 year old man has the self control of a gnat.

I don’t think he’s racist either. But oh man when you’re the party that constantly gets accused of it, his “excuse” of not having self control gets old quick when he picks Juneteenth to say there are too many federal holidays. And I believe things like that help light the fire of the extreme MAGAs (the small minority who do wave swastika flags along side their Trump flags), the same way when he says “fight” those pinheads do just that, literally and not in the polls. At some point he needs to realize he’s a grown adult and his toddler-level lack of self control hurts the country. He might not have self control, but he isn’t stupid, and he knows what he’s doing. And that - to me - is unacceptable.

I’m sure there is all sorts of hyperbole in this thread. But do any of my republican friends here think Trump helped the accusations/optics of “the right being racist” when he chose to - on Juneteenth of all days - to tweet “Too many non-working holidays in America. It is costing our Country $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to keep all of these businesses closed.” When the leader of the country tweets that on the holiday that recognizes the end of slavery in America, it’s not hard to see how it just adds fuel to the “MAGA/republicans are racist” fire. I know many republicans on here aren’t “MAGA republicans,” and consider him an orange gasbag, but you are all smart enough (seriously; I'm not being a dick) to connect those dots.

NEVER!!! (I’m 45 with a toddler. If I back off the caffeine, I die.) But point taken. I was a bit harsh on the kid. Let’s see what he can do this year. Solid WR2 is a big piece of the puzzle we need. So let’s hope he hits that in a 17 game season 👍

Narrator: It turns out they are indeed stupid.