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Plus the dreadful fumble which gifted them the touchdown. I think there can be some sympathy on the 4th and down touchdown but it was a stupid playcall to start with and, if it was Josh's call not to kick the field goal, then McDermott should have pulled rank on him. Outside of those three plays he played his best game since the bye. But those three plays cost us, even though I agree we wouldn't even have been in it without him.

But since the bye we've run the ball quite well. We get a lead, abandon the run in the second half and collapse.

I think someone made the superb point earlier querying whether Dorsey and Josh are too alike. Do they hype themselves up and egg each other on? Is there a lack of a calming influence which then impacts on the plays being made? Dorsey should have been in Josh's ear for that final play - take what they give you, accept the FG if need be, do not turnover, do not fumble, play it safe. If it did happen, why was it ignored? If it didn't happen, why not?

Agree with that. If we only took the big play when it was clearly there, and otherwise checked down and dink and dunked he'd be the best QB bar none. Play is mental as much as physical. Josh has all of the physical skills but mentally he shuts down far too often.

One beat us by two in boiling heat with an OL which was so shredded we had someone playing with an ACL injury. One beat us by three when we handed it to them on a plate. If we can tidy up the errors we beat both. Big if, though.

In truth, I think the offense needs less balls and the defense needs more. I wonder if one can hand some to the other.

He does. He just abandons it far too often.

Can we lock this thread now, please?

Though even after the fumble, his drive down the field also felt like typical Josh in a good way and what elite QBs should be doing. Then the offensive series before the pick was good Josh as well. But every play at the moment just feels like a screw up is round the corner.

True, and I was thinking even if he does find a more secure footing will I just be sitting there wondering when the next boneheaded play or game is going to creep in? Is he forever going to be this - a thrilling player who sets the NFL alight at his best but buries the Bills at his worst.

I do think we need some balance here. We put up 30 points. Josh looked far more like himself in a positive sense today than he did in the hellhole of next last week. He threw two gatbage interceptions plus had a horrible fumble (though the playcall was horrendous there) but he also made some fantastic plays as well. Would I say he was absolute garbage this week? Probably not. Not at his best and cost us the game but not absolute garbage. ETA - if he looks really bad next week, this will be a sadly karmic post.

Are you able to post them, please? Have no idea who to look for on there.

Is it media insiders saying Josh may be benched?

This is the annoying thing - Josh seemed to have sorted this out. From the Patriots in the wildcard game through to the Chiefs in week five we looked smooth and settled. Then the second half against the Steelers, in hindsight, should have perhaps rung alarm bells and then the regression has set in. Why? On the flip side... take a look at Mahomes' performances between week five and week thirteen last year. Outside of thrashing the Raiders his QBR didn't go above 57.4 (and only above 50.0 twice). He was sacked 16 times and threw eight interceptions. He recovered until the meltdown in the second half against the Bengals. So there's every reason showing Josh can recover. As I said, the saddest thing is it looked like Josh had sorted this issue out.

OK. Keep telling yourself that.

Blame McDonald's? Should we have given them a special offer to sell food at OP or something? Have they cursed us?

Ohh Twitter. Must be true then.

Is it a plus that we beat ourselves? Yes, along as we can sort ourselves out. It feels like if we stop tripping ourselves up we will be almost unstoppable. And that mainly is on Josh doing the basics right.

You mean rumblings in your head?

Yep. We lost the Divisional game in the play offs away from OP.

If anything Josh was a better player under this OC pre bye. Something happened at the bye, and I'm not sure what.

When player's sign up to commercials I do think it's a sign of believing their own hype. It's not like he needs more money. is it? He's a Quarterback, not a promoter. Ditch future deals and focus on the game.

Rubbish. He's the Quarterback, he's screwing up massively time and time again. The least he should do is own it, which he is. What he should be doing is learning from it, which he isn't.

Oh you don't say? He's stuck on saying the same old thing because he's doing the same old thing on the field. Until he changes the latter, he'll be sayig the same things in the press conference.

Our defense is shredded with injuries at the moment; I didn't expect anything else. In comparison I think our offense is basically fully healthy?