Ghost_002!

All your opinion and you are welcomed to it. Reality is...no Pat fan is in fear over the bills QB being better in good or bad weather. Schemes and play can help neutralize all that stuff. It's been like that since the first pro football game was ever played. The best roster/player/ team doesn't always win.

Not moving the goal post..your premise...they way I took it was. NE fans need to fear Allen's big arm compared to Mac..which in general why do fans need to fear any QB when BB is the coach. So i replied..but you are talking about the weather. You have no idea how bad the weather is going to be and how it's going to affect either QB. Allen does throw pics no matter the weather. And You honestly have no idea how Mac can play n how he is going to play. I can see fans are going to be so locked in on the windy game in Buffalo and use it as a negative against Jones, again. "His noodle" arm, "I can't wait to see how he responds being down 14" Well in the indy game He threw for almost 300 yrds..2TDs and the last TD the ball was zipped right into Henry before the defender could get there. But hey...its much better to down size him..

So if BB slows Allen down or gets his defense to make Allen throws one of his usual picks you think that won't decide the game? Since it's looking more and more like Allen gotta do everything for the Bills.. And I know some here don't think much of Jones..but if Cam Newton moved the ball on you guys today. Mac won't be able to? He had almost 300 yards and 2 TDs after throwing two pics in the first 1/2 against the Colts in indy. So he can surely move the ball enough against the bills In NE..where the coach makes them practice outside in bad weather to be ready for it.

I don't see how they would worry given Josh has to play NE defense and not NE QB. Which having the better QB still doesn't mean anything.

Who cares what the media makes them out to be...you still have to go in there and beat them. And the Bills don't do what the Colts do. Not saying the Bills can't win.

Just out of curiosity, explain? A special kind of pats win?

Why..they still lead the division.

Oh you think I am "awesome"...thank you! You are so kind..right in time for Xmas too!

See that's your problem. There has been many games BB has been out coached. This game just wasn't one of them.

Been posting here.

Ha ha..the fact that you think you made sense or made a valid point is hilarious to me...

How is that an excuse if you are acknowledging the teams lack of performance or even better they were out played..please try to make it make sense?

Emm..I wouldn't say that. They are still first in their division right? They beat you guys right with these same players...stop trying to reach. I just said I don't see how they were out coached. Not everytime you lose its the coaches fault. Players do shoulder the responsibility too if you try to be logical about it.

So let me try to get this right? I said it's a players n their performance fault not the coaches for the lose but some how I am making excuses?? Huh?

That's not a coaching issue, that is a player performance issue. You as a Bills fan should know that. Even If you stack the line and they still get through thats not the coaches fault thats the players.. You realize there are great players in the league that you know what they are going to do and you still don't stop them right?

Going for it on 4th down given the situation is not on the opposing coach. That decision didn't cost them the game either. Block punt and turnovers did the actual damage.

How were they out coached? Out played and out performed yes all day. But out coached, I didn't see it.

Looked like the shoulder got there first..or he at least lead with the shoulder.

Doesn't matter if playing the Bills...

That was b.s. bills fans have every right to be pist! Refs screwed them out of that drive.

The Bills been around for 50 years..are u trying to say you lost more games because of the weather and not cause the other team better prepared? Cause NE weather could be hell and I remember a certain California kid playing great in the snow.. And I don't know..I would say, the coaching stuff should understand about the weather and coach that way.. The GM should understand its Buffalo n not California and draft players that can handle it... And nobody plays in a thunderstorm.

I understand and that was what football was built on the as well. the elements. Makes you have to find other ways of winning. I get it's not enjoyable for some of you the fans...but i do not think it's going to change anytime soon.

football has been played in the mud, rain, heavy snow...everything expect a thunderstorm. How was that not football? It's northeast weather though. Bills been existed for 50 years or so.....so this kind of stuff happens. (not all the time though)

This is a moot point now since the game is over. But the Pats Oline play struggled in the beginning of the season, whoever they projected to be the starters at that time...it just wasn't working. Some injuries(Isaiah Wynn..always hurt) had occurred so i don't know if it forced them to switch some players around or they seen the Oline play in the beginning just wasn't work and Mac Jones was going to get killed so they switched it up anyways. But since they switched some players around on the line, things had gotten better.

The elements have always been part of the game. No, it's not fun to watch a host of games like that, but those games are few and far between. If you had a problem with how the weather affected the game, i get it but you must be a causal. Because if you are a Patriot or Bills fan how were you bored? It had drama from beginning to end