Ghost_002!

You realized he played the number 2 ranked defense(i may have their ranking a little high) in the Browns right. You are hyping White up like he(Jones) didn't just face Myles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney

oh my buddy is back....ok see the underlined. ^^^ seems here you are saying something other than talking about Mac Jones.. and honestly at this point when you post..your replies sound like a script from WWE when the heel is talking to the crowd.

What does that have to do with strength of schedule between the two teams? And seeing who you played, given your roster you should be on top if not then there should of been a thread about the Bills being all hype. ha ha you like wanna crap on the pats for not playing anyone, but celebrate the bills who have also not really played anybody..ha ha. Man your posts be making me laugh.

Bills opp. to date: Steelers (L), Fins twice, Jets, Texans, Jags(L), titans (L), Football team & the Chiefs (W)....emm seems like Bills weren't playing a bunch of world beaters and defensive juggernauts either.

They shouldn't, they truly shouldn't but you know....that's why they play the games...because you never know. Plus it may not have been effort and more about scheming and that's why they lost they way they did to the jags...but i didn't see the game so you would know better than me. And i am sure McD will not have them "sleeping at the wheel" when they play the Pats twice....like you are saying.

The focus is too much on Mac Jones...the real issue is the patriots defense. What exactly will the bills do against BB defense. If the Bills come with the same effort they come against the Jags, then how exactly do you think the game will turn out?

ha ha just wow!

Have nothing but the ultimate respect for you! *cheers*

here's a hint....i am not bother by this thread, I am not bothered being here, I am not bothered by the likes of you or anyone else. You seem more bothered than i do..so I will carry on as a poster here. And you seem like you have it together talking about the silly thread going way, but post in the thread to keep it going....

???? i am just gonna speak for myself....where have you seen me screaming "oh the pats are back!, we are coming for the division..rah rah...we have Mac Jones...etc"???? You will never find that because i do not do that here. I have gone out of my way to praise the bills, their players and praise majority of this fan base....i have never brought up the pats success to rub it in anyone's face. If i have brought up their success. It was to make a point during a topical conversation/debate/thread/post. And again, it's YOUR fellow bills posters who make these threads up that you guys come into and anyone else can come into and talk about.

^^^^ Again i will ask...so there is not a section of buffalo fans that over hype their players...? ESPN doesn't hype other players and teams in other sports...or you just really really bothered because it's your division rival that has been so successful for 20 plus year and just when you thought it was all over...they maybe coming back after a very short time at the bottom. I think Allen has proven his self as an elite QB. Now he has to prove he can when a AFC championship....and SB. But Josh Allen is that dude the way i see it.

You don't have to care, nobody has to care..but i am sure, had we been talking about another bills player that people outside of buffalo doubted and another player happen to be praising him. I am sure his comments would show up in the topic...i mean it's a natural debate and discussion. Talking points, using visuals and other references to make your point. *shrug shoulders*

I know right..i mean after all it was a bills fan that made this Mac Jones thread to begin with that you keep coming into as well. I mean what am i thinking talking about a topic that someone else created for people to talk about...wow what a concept. Wait maybe i shouldn't use too much sarcasm. That may show signs of a disability issue. So i was told.

So how does Tyrann Mathieu have that old mentality? I never knew using "sarcasm" means you may have a disability. Seems you know a lot about this, do you wanna talk about it? The thought was mobile/athletic QBs are the future. A pocket passer is a thing of the past and will not be as affective. I beg to differ if you put a team around them. No team is winning if they are relying solely on their QB, cause he can throw and running, etc- Pigging backing off the tweet Tyrann Mathieu put out.

First off, yes "Paper Tigers" but you seem like you really want to point out my mistake, so i will be sure to punish myself for the mental error. I am sorry sir, please forgive me? 2nd..i was not addressing you or this whole board. I replied to one poster when i made the "prove me wrong statement" so I am not quite sure why you think you were addressed in that. And to the rest....you are making my point i was trying to make in general about what Jones is limited to compared to other QBs will not be a problem if he truly is a solid QB.. If he truly is a solid QB, as long as they build a good team around him, he can win, he can also win them some games. He doesn't need to have a big arm or be able to run like hell out the pocket. Especially with the way NE runs their system.

Oh so you are acknowledging there is much more than just having a mobile/athletic QB to win......Thank you. please come back and try to prove me wrong, you do sooo well at it, time and time again. And yea..as great as he is and as much as he has accomplished. If KC didn't have a defense he would not have won a ring. KC needed more than just him in the SB last season. Seeing he doesn't have a defense now again, and he was very lucky when they played the packers Rodgers was not there. Because he, the whole team have been playing very suspect so far. I mean this board had a thread doubt KC being "paper champions" sooo.

The QBs i named still play right? Unless i misunderstood you. You made mentioned to Jones not being mobile enough to succeed like his counterparts. Are his counterparts collecting hardware left and right? I have acknowledged that the league has evolved, i myself wanted Fields over Jones for that very reason, but to sit here and claim he Jones is not gonna be able to win a playoff game, put a team on his back or win a championship because he doesn't have the capabilities of his counterparts is ridiculous. Because 1. he is only a rookie, you don't have a clue what he is going to do or be capable of, and there is much more to the game then having a athletic QB. That's exactly where i'm coming from. You also mentioned being able to slide in the pocket, roll out, etc... Have you watched a Mac Jones game? He exactly does that...he has slide up, slide back in the pocket. They have had design rollouts for him, and he has escaped the pockets to get a few gains and slide down....so he can do enough to avoid the sack (without being mobile), which the term "pocket presence" is a trait a QB needs to have in order to be able to succeed in this league. yea why would you listen to an actual NFL pro baller who is playing in the league right now....(sarcasm) Yea, so i guess all the bills fans who have said something positive about Jones must be a patriots fan to..ha ha....you are making so much sense. i swear (Sarcasm)

Right, the QB position has evolved. But out of all those QBs you named, how many SBs have they won, how many have they even gone to..excluding Brady? I can name them. collectively taken Brady out the mix. 3. Mahomes has one, Rodgers one, and Wilson one. that's it. in fact-look at Mahomes with that ability he has...and he only won 1 SB and got his a** kicked last SB. And might not go back to another one this year. This game is so much more than just the players ability. Reason why BB is so successful. and of top of it..it's still not a good idea to have your QB running. As their positions has evolved, so has the defensive players. They are bigger and faster. QBs still getting trucked by these guys can still end a career.

He is not a gun slinger and was not adveristied as such. He doesn't have to be. For the QB position, it's important to have the mind over just having the ability. Yes being mobile makes a difference but that definitely doesn't matter if you game plan and scheme to counter what the defense gives you. Look at Brady and look at Rodgers. Rodgers has way more ability than Brady, but Brady is the more successful one out of the two.

You know this doesn't make sense right, no what they are is 6-4. there is no such thing as a "little winning streak" in NFL football when you only play games once a week. And i wouldn't start discrediting their wins because as it's been said in here already by fellow bills posters. The bills schedule has been pretty easy to date as well. In fact i heard on sport radio yesterday that to date the bills schedule has been a little easier than the patriots.. Teams have won superbowls on "little winning streaks" Look at the 07 Giants, and the Bucs from last year...they went on "little winning streaks and won the whole thing....not comparing them to those teams..just making my point about "winning streaks" He is a rookie, he is not asked to do this as of yet. This is year one. They are purposely bring him along slowly. They would have this same approach if it was Trevor Lawrence. It has nothing to do with ability, it has more to do with putting their QB in the best situation and accuracy and a great mind for the game are great traits to haveI? You need that more then your ability to sling the football or else you are Jamies Winston.

Cleveland played zone last week. How many times they did i do not know, but they played it. And he was able to find the soft spot in that zone and completed the pass to his wide outs (check his 3rd down conversions last week especially). Plus, his coach has been coaching since the 70s..i am sure he has coached him up to approach certain defenses a certain way. (that is not to say he wouldn't struggle against a solid defense)

ahhh you seem to be missing a couple games off that record there....

He is not being asked to do too much, that approach has pretty much been recognized. And Brown's "not being on top of their game.." doesn't discredit his experience against them....he been facing heavy pass rushes. yea he sure has Tyrann Mathieu fooled (sarcasm)

He's already played 3 top 10 NFL defenses this year. Including top pass rushers Jadeveon Clowney and Myles Garrett

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