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The 88-94 teams were LOADED with talent at every position group and had a dominant OL, this team can't say that. The players seem to have the same attitude as most of the fan base in that 13-3 was considered the floor and we were only destined for greater things. Now the reality that every season is different and you have to be humble, work your asses off, etc. is fully setting in.

I like the confidence, but that upgrading will happen in the offseason. They upgraded this past offseason, and now have the division lead. Point being, everybody "upgrades" in the offseason but it only works out for a few teams.

They look like they have for the last 2 decades, except at QB. If 12 were back there with this current team we'd be pretty F'd. As it stands, we're going to win this Division, no doubt.

We're in the playoffs, no doubt about that. Only question is where we're playing, but my guess is the odds are heavy that its at home. Whether NE makes the playoffs at all still remains a valid question.

Realistically, their O-line is better, their backs are better, their TE's are better, WR 2-3 are about equal. JA and Diggs are in a whole different class than their counterparts in NE which gives us a huge big play advantage. That's theoretical, realistically JA has played NE 6 times and had 1 good game. Our offense has been more productive than theirs, but we weren't playing their defense. Its going to be a tough and awesome game.

Biggest impact? Wentz.... He will give us the ball 3-4 times and suck the life out of the Colts for us.

The game is for the Div lead, on a Monday night against the Bills 20 year tormentor.... The Stadium will be rockin, no doubt about that. The team will feed off the crowd. The only thing that could derail that atmosphere is if NE is able to jump out to a big early lead, the chances of which are slim. Anything is possible, like winning the lottery, but I expect the Bills to be more than up for this one. I expect the NE defense to hang in and not get rattled, its their offense that will struggle. It will be a tug of war with the Bills getting a few points here and there until they finally hit a big play, then its bye bye. Although I can see a scenario where that is the only game NE loses for the rest of the season. It's unlikely, but it wouldn't surprise me at all based on what I've seen this season, how they look, and how similar they look to almost every season the last 2 decades. I expect them to win a close one against TN next weekend, which helps us.

Jones is a game manager, but he's proving to be a very good game manager. Where that goes after his rookie year I have no idea, but its clearly working right now. I guess it depends on if Josh McDaniels gets a HC gig somewhere. Who will continue the developmental process after this season?

I think this is awesome, who is not anticipating this game as much if not more than the Chiefs game?

Way too much is made of his time in Cleveland 25-30 years ago. Its emphasized in an attempt to distort the record to pretend he's overrated, while at the same time ignoring what he did as the assistant head coach/DC under Bill Parcells. That resume includes 2 SB wins, shutting down Joe Montana (the previous GOAT) and the K-gun, a SB loss with the Patriots to the Packers all star team, and also getting the late 90's Jets to the AFC Championship game and almost winning it. To me, saying he's overrated is an easy way to look like a Homer. His resume dwarfs any other coach, including his mentor Parcells and rival Don Shula.

The Division race hasn't been this fun in about 20+ years! The 2 games against the Pats will be like playoff games, definitely more exciting than just playing out the string waiting for January.

🤣 Fire alarms in the hotel at 2 am, bad headsets, etc. Just takes the air right out of the ball sometimes....Film at 11.

I think odds are we'd beat them, no argument there. I'd just rather play someone else for all the marbles... Allen has faced them 6 times, and had one good game, thus my concern over facing a divisional opponent a 3rd time. I would much rather see a warm weather team have to travel up here and experience Orchard Park in the middle of Winter.

lol WHAT? Hell no. You keep harping on the rookie, my point is facing Belichick for a 3rd time in the same season when he's got 2 full games worth of film. Its not that we're destined to lose in that scenario, just that I don't like the scenario to begin with. I'd much rather have an opponent that isn't familiar with us to begin with and that didn't spend the draft and FA building a team designed to exploit our weaknesses. Copy? Divisional opponents always have the potential to give you the toughest test.

I just hope we only play them twice this year, I don't want to see them a 3rd time. Unless of course its after they knock off TN or KC for us.

Funny thread, truly... We play the Jets (win) and they go to Cleveland to play a motivated Browns team that has more talent than them. A week from today we will all laugh at this thread. They will threaten the division right to week 16 or 17, but we'll win it and have a home playoff game. Book it.

NE gets the Browns and Titans before we play them on Dec 6. We'll know exactly who is who in 30 days. Seems all for nothing though, TB or LA (Rams) seems to be the obvious choice for a SB title.

I think Jones is more like Garoppolo, which is still like Brady but without the "clutch" gene. 😁 I could be wrong, because a lot of guys could be like Brady with the Bucs personnel around them. That's a ridiculous wealth of talent and skill on that team right now.

If Folk's kick was 10" to the right we are having a totally different conversation. I thought it was a great game and I find myself enjoying the game more when I don't care who wins. Tampa did what great teams do, they find a way to win the tough ones and walk out with the win. Hoodie and Mullet had a pretty impressive defensive game plan, fun game to watch.

It's soda in most of NY State (Northern NY, Southern NY, Eastern NY, and west to Syracuse where it gets mixed. Seems to me "pop" for soda is a WNY phenomenon.

LMAO, Victor Kiam.... (Lisa Olsen, Patriot Missles). 🤣

I think Keith Jackson and Ben Coates are better than a few on the list, both of them were excellent blockers in the run game but could still hang with everyone else on the list in the pass game from an earlier era (without the two hand touch rules we have now).

Hey, at least we're not Green Bay? 😁

Awesome.... I hope the weather is good and Allen throws it all over the place to start off on a high note. (random thought) Speaking of high note... Every outdoor event I've been to this Summer in NY State has smelled like a weed fest, now that its legal. I hope the Bills home games aren't ganje parties. The smell is pervasive, even at the State Fair.

I think he's half of Brady, looked like it in the pre-season. He threw well under duress, threw accurately and ON TIME. That impressed me a lot. Just watched this: FIRST TAKE | Adam Schefter "BREAKING" Patriots release QB Cam Newton; Mac Jones will start at QB - YouTube