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Really surprised they straight up released Newton. Wow... Guess we won't need to wait to see who Jones is. What I find puzzling is that they only have Hoyer behind him. Dunno, I saw Jones move and throw like Brady from a dirty pocket.... Not fair

Last year they were crushed by a ton of dead money, opt outs, and injuries. They had to pay up on all the contracts that they had paid out in order to make that 5-6 year run happen, last year was pay up time. Clearly that team has talent this year and in comparing our depth to theirs it looks favorable for either depending on the position group. Not sure what you're looking at, could you be specific? Cheers

I'm not sure re-signing a 1st round pick is a sign of anything considering how NE handles its payroll. That jump in contract from rookie to big veteran money us a sure way to have a few star players with no depth to back them up. I feel like we did that for many years.

I see Bills bandwagoners all over now. In Saratoga the bunting changes between Giants - Patriots (that's lots of play off appearances in the last 25 years or so). Now there's Bills flags, hats, bumper stickers, t-shirts all over the place. Its a love hate thing, love to see it, but hate that band wagon phenomenon.

I'm feeling that way too. It's the Steelers and Big Ben coming to town, not the Jets....

Fair questions, we'll get answers in less than THREE WEEKS! Can't wait.

Steelers look pretty solid on offense with 2 pass catching TE's, good WR's and a stud rookie at RB. Looks like they can light it up ,and the D looks to be solid also. I'm not ruling them out.

It looks to me the Pats are trying to win the same way they've been doing it for 2 decades. Same coach, same methods, different players.

NE showed up and more or less played the type of game we've been expecting since their spending spree. Newton looks improved, Mac Jones looks as advertised also. I am surprised that they are down 3 out of 4 TE's when that was their biggest upgrade this past offseason. We expect them to play tough D, try to run on everyone, etc. Now what I really want to know is can they rely on their kicker (either one) and can they throw the ball to win a game if they have to. Two big questions that remain. The Jets aren't going anywhere this season and the Dolphins probably aren't either, so this is a two horse race and we're the fav. I have slowly growing concern over this NE team though....

Not much? lol

Still... That was a 99 yd drive, power football. Impressive even in preseason.

Last 20? We've been struggling with them since 1994. If not for Jim Kelly's Bills and OJ, this series would be completely one sided: https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-england-patriots/teamvsteam?opp=4

Jones is Chad Pennington 2.0 He looks like the same exact player, but the major difference may show up in durability. Pennington was smart but physically limited, though he knew exactly how to play within his limits and was very efficient. I think that's what Jones is now and will be going forward.

I really wanted to see Stidham in camp with them just to throw a wrench in the works. Jones has the noodle arm, Cam's is broke and Stidham has a legit NFL arm but not the leadership intangibles of the other two. It would have really muddied it up to have a guy in their camp who can sling it and put the other two in context.

Fitz looked great, hope he never retires. Always fun to watch (as long as he's not playing for us).

Look at the HoF finalists and who is up next year. NE already has Ty Law in the Hall, finalists were McGinnest, Harrison, Seymour, and Wilfork is eligible next year. That's 5 probable HoF'rs from their first 3 SBs and 07 Defense. Then there's Vinatieri in there somewhere too who is likely a 1st ballot HoF'r. Yes Brady was there for 20 years, but not alone and its not like their offense will only play with 10 now. Their defense is likely a top 5 defense this season, it was only season before last they were number 1. So yeah, Brady is gone but they're still dangerous, restocked and reloaded. Our future is extremely bright because of JA17, but I see too many people walking around with the impression that with Brady gone it's "our turn" to run the division for a decade or better. Nothing is guaranteed and don't expect the media to crown the Bills as a dynasty tomorrow. Exactly

No, the reaction is generally along the lines of laughing at taking pride in something not even worthy of note to anyone outside of our region. They might as well smirk and pat you on the head rather than say anything. Go to Metlife Stadium, try an experiment. Anyway....pointless digression.

Curious why Rodney Harrison is not on the list. Dirty player reputation keeping him off? By performance stats he should be number 1.

No, not really... Was just sharing an observation. Assume what you will.

All arguments aside, the fact remains it looks and sounds different to anyone outside WNY and doesn't reflect well. I've seen the reaction many times.

They are the NY Giants and Jets, as in representing the city and not the state, no? Seems their stadium is right in the middle of the NYC metro area. Go figure https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=ajOOypNa&id=3B8C2EBBCFB44712036E211E23634A62F1D35DF4&thid=OIP.ajOOypNaOIfZoq9cqtxC-gHaFL&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fstatic.vecteezy.com%2fsystem%2fresources%2fpreviews%2f000%2f162%2f877%2foriginal%2fgreater-new-york-city-map-vector.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6a338eca935a3887d9a2af5caadc42fa%3frik%3d9F3T8WJKYyMeIQ%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=980&expw=1400&q=New+York+City+Metro+Area+Map&simid=607994071604857208&FORM=IRPRST&ck=307620E2B0780E122B4D0164FF5388EE&selectedIndex=28&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0 I cringe when I hear my fellow Bills fans say that age old remark that just makes us look like Gomers.... Travel more.

I know we all say that the Bills are the only team in NY State, but in reality the Giants and Jets play next to their City's skyline, we don't. https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p_KZqj2YVSM/UrrvDrJ7hCI/AAAAAAAAUt4/vwOuBwVjhIM/s1600/metlife_gallery.jpg

Thats pretty much what I came away with from all the different sources on the net. I think in game one last year they put JC Jackson on Diggs with Safety help, Gilmore covered someone else. I could see them doing that again and now they have a much better front seven to contend with. According to Youtube videos from NE's camp, Newton is healthy and looking much better than last year. I'll believe that when he can do it week in week out in the regular season. So... pending that doubtful reality coming to pass, 🙄 on "improvement". Everything I found on the net more or less corroborates the idea that they are better or at least equal at every position group outside QB and WR, its in the links I posted. Does that make it true? Dunno... The regular season will tell us the truth, I just think its notable and worth looking at. Bottom line here is that the OP is true "NE QB's suck", because if they had Brady with their current roster we'd likely be underdogs this year. He's long gone and we win a tough division this year, which I find much more interesting and more satisfying personally. Makes us a tougher team in the playoffs.

Its really odd how during the entire Marino era in Miami they were never able to run or stop the run.

I see, you want to play one upper with dumb statements. You win. 😂 (This is where I apply the never argue with an idiot advice)