Bob in STL
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I have seen way too much rowdiness in Rich/Ralph/Highmark over the decades. Fights, drunkenness, profanity, was often the norm. Seems worse than ever so I stopped going.
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2 hours ago, Warcodered said:
The Dolphins are more obnoxious right now plus It'd be nice for Belichick to reinforce to the rest of the league the game plan against that offense.
This. Maybe Bill can start the blueprint to stopping the Miami offense?
This will be an interesting match up.
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Todays game shows they can execute. Allen was patient and he took what they gave, and he still threw some special darts for TDs. He just has to remember not to revert to impatience. All phases were good and there were many contributors.
I think and hope that last week was just a combination of playing a good defense and some preseason rust that was not knocked off yet.
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1 hour ago, warrior9 said:
You were saying?
I will say that Cook played a great game today, his best ever as a Bill. The entire offense played great today.
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2 minutes ago, FireChans said:
The offense wasn’t really that bad going up against a great defense. Obviously, once Josh melted down the rest of the team followed.
Good point on the Jets defense. I can’t help but think this is not all on Allen but he sure made too many errors. . I look at the receiver route running, the pass pro, the lack of a running game.
The offense is not finely tuned. It’s like the way they ended last season. The Jets had something to do with it.
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32 minutes ago, warrior9 said:
Where does this fall on Cook.....?
It doesn't. This is further proof that he wasn't the issue and actually garnered more than he should have? What is your point here? You are all over the place.
He had 3.8 yards per carry with blocking that stinks because he got all of his yards AFTER contact.... much better than mediocre.
He didnt get "some yards" after contact.. he got basically ALL of his yards after contact.
He didn’t beak any runs. He didn’t make a difference.
the whole offense was out of sync. Until they fix that the team will depend on individuals to make the occasional big play, which is mostly on Allen, and this is the way they played last season too.
My point is the offense was bad. blame the coaches, McD, Allen, all of them. Cook did not make a difference. If you think 3.8 per carry is good that’s your opinion. I can’t remember him breaking a tackle so the fancy stats are nice but this one does not translate to what happened on the field. I want more yards and then we can give the team the credit.
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1 hour ago, warrior9 said:
Ok, 43 of his 46 yards came after contact...... anything else?
Yes. Cook had 12 carries for 46 yards, 3.8 yds/attempt. Mediocre at best. Since we have some “proof” that he got some yards after contact then look at the OL and the overall play execution. It pretty much stinks.
Kurt Warner already pointed out the poor route running by the Bills receivers in his video breakdown. The Bills lack attention to details.
More and more this is looking like a team that lacks preparation on the fine details of the game. They wait for Allen to bail them out. Very few are doing their 1/11th consistently.
It won’t matter what formation we use unless they all execute their roles consistently.
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15 minutes ago, warrior9 said:
It's probably not but for all the people that don't like James Cook or think we need to upgrade:
Cook actually ranked eighth at the RB position in avoided tackle rate and earned 43 of 46 rushing yards after contact last week. The notion he doesn't avoid tacklers is nonsense.
So hopefully a lot of 12 and a lot of featuring of him, again
It’s always about yards and moving the chains. . Breaking tackles is not always avoided tackles.
I don’t care who plays, just get positive yards.
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On 9/14/2023 at 4:15 PM, Big Blitz said:
I can’t keep up with the threads. But this bears posting everywhere:
First 6 games of 2022:
2300 yards 66% 14 TDs 4 INTs
Last 13 games including playoffs and Jets:2700 yards 60% 22 TDs 16 INTs
^^^^ That’s almost a full season.
And I did the math - the yardage is roughly that it’s within 50 or so yards.
Interesting numbers.
Josh had a lot of good games in the last 13 but clearly something is wrong. It’s hard for me to blame Dorsey for the Jets game. Josh had the turnovers and he was bailing out of the pocket a lot.
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14 hours ago, Nester said:
What is there to think about? she disrespected the character of a more valuable co worker behind his back and got busted for it in a ***** way. He responded that it effected him negatively.
Her time here is over. I don't plan on thinking about it much more at all beyond my silly typo which will keep me up at night.
They are not co workers and they are not peers. Diggs is a football player on the Bills team and Maddy is not.
She was joking around. Why you assigning value to people and if she was of “higher value” would it matter?
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Josh Allen is in his 7th NFL season and he still has people telling him to play smarter football. Coaches, the GM, coordinators, and players are all taking to him yet he continues to make the same mistakes that high school QBs make.Troy Aikman was actually trying to be nice but at the same time he was shocked at the mistakes Josh was making. It really was like watching a rookie on MNF.
Sunday will be a big game for Josh to start the process of putting this one behind him. One game at a time, he needs to simplify his game and get on track. I am pulling for him but actually I am quite shocked at the regression.
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On 9/12/2023 at 12:55 AM, Freddie's Dead said:
I was writing my GAME BALLS thread before Martin drilled a line drive up the middle for the PR TD. I revoked Josh's automatic game ball, so only Stef got his automatic game ball on O. No one else on O showed up.
Bass-o-Matic got a game ball, dude is nails.
My D game balls went to Floyd, Milano, and Groot, in that order. Floyd is the real deal, and with him and Von on the field at the same time? FUGEDDABOTIT!!
You don't get game balls for losses.
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I felt something wrong when we settled for 3 at the end of the first half. The offense was not in sync, the only thing reliable was Diggs.
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There are a lot of reasons to not like the matchup on paper, then add in it is MNF on the road, it is in NYC (ok Jersey) with the 9/11 ceremony, and Rogers, etc.
Given all that the Bills will probably win by 2 TDs.
Go Bills!
15 hours ago, Nextmanup said:This game is in NYC on 9/11.
I assume they will do some god awful 9/11 tribute with cops, firefighters, and a huge American flag...The game will probably start WAY late.
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This is just an awful take. Wow.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
I'm not gonna get into defending Edmunds as a hitter.
I'll just point out that some of the biggest hits (and by extension, biggest hitters) are actually poor tackling technique. Donte Whitner exemplified this Back in Da Day. He would go for the BOOM! but if the opponent managed to deflect, they were gone and Whitner was trying to pick himself up off the turf and recover to pursue.
There's actually a stat kept around missed tackles. Like the drop stat, it is not an official NFL stat, has some subjectivity behind it, and the different statistical services who provide it may differ a bit.Anyway, Tremaine Edmunds was scored with one (1) missed tackle - 1% missed tackles - last season.
Milano, who to (my perception anyway) is a much more aggressive hitter, had 13 missed tackles, 11.6%.
I'm not trying to knock on Milano, just to point out that "aggressive hitting" is a mixed blessing from the point of view of a defense.
It might be interesting to see Milano's 13 missed tackles. I bet that some of them are on plays when most LB's would not have been in the play to miss the tackle.
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35 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
I struggle to understand this fan base sometimes. Many seem to actively search for ways to downplay the team’s fortunes and/or denigrate specific players, management and such. Examples include:
1. Ragging on for years on Edmunds, then as soon as he leaves in free agency ragging on Beane for not resigning or replacing him.
2. Ragging on Beane for not having a veteran guy behind Brown at RT, then ragging on him because the guy he got retired (as if Beane should be Nostradamus) then ragging on getting Ifedi as if we were going to get an All Pro.
There are many such examples. But the last 24 hours or so have taken the cake, because who are we negative on now? Josh Allen. And why? Mainly because of two articles from the gasbag known as Jason Whitlock, the first of which he said was a lie, then the second of which he claims Josh doesn’t work hard enough and it’s supposedly well known. Throw in an interview with MacAfee where Josh specifically states he watches a lot of film but qualifies what he takes from it, and all of a sudden it’s Josh that is why the Bills haven’t won a Lombardi. It’s Josh who drinks too much (one incident with Kyle Allen), Josh who doesn’t work out, Josh who doesn’t spend enough time on football in the off-season (put your TV on and measure in minutes how long till you see Mahomes in a commercial). Or Josh impregnating waitresses, which no reputable news source has validated.
All this leads me to ask: what the hell is wrong with some people around here? I am not saying Josh can’t improve. He needs to continue learning to take the short routes, get the ball out quicker, etc. but to claim he is now somehow the problem, that it’s his work ethic, that as one person said here that they don’t like Josh personally as if he actually has ever met the guy? Come on.
I have thought for quite a long time there are folks on this board that really want the Bills to lose so they can somehow crow on a message board that they were right. I think some of the stuff we’re seeing is some bizarre defense mechanism people throw up as a guard should the Bills not win it all.
Me? I’ve been a fan since 1960 when I was 5 years old. I will do as I’ve always done, enter the season with optimism and then see how things go. Offer praise when merited as well as criticism when merited. But to actively seek out reasons for negativism, even to the point of believing nonsensical crap to do so? I don’t get it.
The biggest baloney you read here and in the National Media is that Josh Allen's "prime" and his "window" is closing. Over the history of the league many QB's made it to the SB at a much older age.
The new narrative on Josh not working hard enough is garbage and its the exact opposite of the early narrative - he worked harder than his contemporaries because he was so "raw" coming out of college. Remember when they said all stuff about his technique and accuracy and everything else?
Too many overblown media opinions, especially related to NFL.
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23 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:
Please talk me off the ledge.
I could see this season with the Bills going 2-2 in their first four games.
The Jets will go into their home opener sky high.
We should be able to handle the Raiders and Commanders.
The Dolphins game could go either way. At least the game is in OP.
I just think that our team is weaker than last year.
I could realistically see the Bills missing the playoffs this year.
With all the pundants saying the Bills window is closing, I am starting to think that Josh may never get us to the Lombardi trophy.
Some concern is merited.
1. The OL might not be better, even with the changes at guard, unless the two tackles can step up.
2. The DL has good potential but only if both Oliver and Rousseau improve and become consistent playmakers.
3. Edmunds is gone and no one stepped up in preseason.
4. Von Miller is an expensive question mark.
5. Our corners are looking mediocre, we need the old Tre back.
6. McD has had issues with game day coaching, now he is running the defense on game day, maybe he always was.
7. Dorsey is not making me forget Dabollon the positive side we have Josh Allen and we gave him a few new weapons. We are still good enough to win the AFCE and get a shot at the big trophy.
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Klecko was very good, not great. Same level as Smerlas.
Steve Tasker was great in his role, a better all around athlete, and more of a game changer than either Klecko or Smerlas.
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On 6/12/2023 at 1:29 PM, GoBills808 said:
He's not wrong
If you don't like hearing about it tho it's easy to avoid him
I guess you missed the draft and free agency in the off season?
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RIP Jim Brown. Running back GOAT.
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All this time I thought we lost because our defense could not stop them, our OL could did block, and our coaching staff didn't learn anything from the prior Monday Night Game. Huh.
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On 5/3/2023 at 12:05 PM, Tuco said:
In 1964 they drafted 20 rounds. And the NFL only had 14 teams. So the 88th pick (7th round) would be the equivalent of the 24th pick in the 3rd round today.
Yes. Making a 7th rounder even less of a risk.
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18 hours ago, Greybeard said:
First name that came to mind, Bob Hayes, the Cowboy.
The Dallas Cowboys selected Hayes in the seventh round (88th overall) of the 1964 NFL Draft with a future draft pick, which allowed the team to draft him before his college eligibility was over, taking a chance that the Olympic sprinter with unrefined football skills could excel as a wide receiver.[9] He was also selected by the Denver Broncos in the 14th round (105th overall) of the 1964 AFL Draft, with a future selection. The bet paid off, due to his amazing feats in cleats. Hayes has been credited by many with forcing the NFL to develop a zone defense and the bump and run to attempt to contain him.
How is a 7th round and 14th round selection a reach?
To me it was calculated risk that paid off big.
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21 hours ago, FireChans said:
With Kincaid as OUR first round TE, I thought it would be useful to draw a historic comparison with the production that other first round TE's have made their rookie seasons.
Kyle Pitts - 68 rec 1026 yards 1 TD
TJ Hockenson - 32 rec 367 yards 2 TD
Noah Fant 40 rec 562 yards 3 TD
Hayden Hurst 13 rec 163 yards 1 TD
OJ Howard 26 rec 432 yards 6 TD
Evan Engram 64 rec 722 yards 6 TD
David Njoku 32 rec 386 yards 4 TD
Eric Ebron 25 rec 248 yards 1 TD
Tyler Eifert 39 rec 445 yards 2 TD
At first glance, woof. Obviously the 2 notable productive TE's, Engram and Pitts stand out. But both were heavily targeted, 115 for Engram and 110 for Pitts. When looking at the Bills offense, Knox (who will likely remain TE1) has averaged ~57 targets per year. Assuming Diggs/Davis/Knox are receiving the lion's share of targets again (which they should be), what do you all think is a reasonable expectation for the rookie next year?
I would be pleasantly surprised with a 40 catch 400 yard couple TD season. I am expecting closer to 30-300.Obviously rooting for him to be Travis Kelce/Mark Andrews/George Kittle born again as a rookie. But the history of the position doesn't support that being the case.
Nothing in this “analysis” means much since every player was on a different team, with a different QB, in a different scheme, with a different role, playing a different schedule.
I am not saying he will catch 30 or 50 or 70 until we see how they actually use him. I expected more from Knox but his targets are not there. Kincaid will likely not be used as a traditional TE and we could see him as WR3 quite often.
Over-reaction Three Weeks In.... Offense seems disjointed
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The offense is still a work in progress with 2 new starters at OG, and a OC that is still figuring out the 12 formation and how to use Kincaid.
We are better at RB and the left side of the OL has been very good. We need better and more consistent play from the RT and WR2.
Dorsey makes some ponderous calls, especially short yardage.
Not worried right now as long as they keep the turnovers down and stay healthy - I hope they peak later in the season when it really counts.