Bob in STL
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33 minutes ago, BananaB said:
He was on point almost all day except for the toss on 4th and 2… Numerous balls got dirted, 3 hit WRs hands and they couldn’t bring in the ball. He took what was given to him plenty of times. That last pass the play was there if Gabe runs the correct route. He turns in instead of up and that ball hits him just before the endzone.
Not really. The initial play was already well covered, and the initial pass patterns were completed. Allen bought more time by getting out of the pocket rolling right, at this point the receivers are scrambling to get open so you cannot blame Davis for the route he runs, it is now street football. There were at least 3 Vikings there near Davis when Allen threw it.
Peterson said after the game that he was free to sit on Allen and watch him after he escaped the pocket. Peterson also said Allen tries to fit the ball into tight windows rather than "take what was given". What was given was #26 all alone just past the line of scrimmage. The smart and safe play was to throw it to #26, get more yards and live for another down. Instead, Allen forced another bad pass, and the savvy veteran picked it.
This is not on Davis, or the OL, or anyone else.
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10 hours ago, GoBills808 said:
If Allen doesn't play MVP caliber football the Bills don't win. It's totally unreasonable imo to expect him to play perfect football game in and game out
There isn't another QB in the league that is required to carry his offensive workload....he has to be the RB and make up for a bad oline and questionable pass catchers. He's the entire offense.
No doubt his receivers make mistakes, the OL misses' assignments, and the running game is not reliable. Add in that our defense is decimated with injuries, especially the entire backfield.
The perception that Allen must carry the team and make all the big plays is the problem. I don't know if Allen puts it all on himself or not, but this is a team game. I just wonder what the OC is doing to help his QB manage the stress of the game and keep him steady.
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No. You stay the course for the season.
Stability is the better option. Forcing McD out just might piss off Beane too. I don't trust Pegula to strike gold twice.
That said, I am questioning the work of Dorsey right now as I see Allen's game management and decision-making regressing and I see no run game. Both of these things are on Dorsey, not McD.
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13 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think the last few weeks is more he has not been seeing some underneath defenders for whatever reason. It doesn’t look like he is knowingly passing up short throws to take risks pushing the ball down the field to me.
Maybe the final int in the game yesterday could qualify as that but there really wasn’t a short route on that play for whatever reason
singletary snuck out late on a delayed route after a block but it looked like by that point davis had a step on Peterson. a better throw and that’s an incompletion at worst
Your thinking is just feeding the problem. He is definitely knowingly passing up short throws in favor of the big play. He knows where the check downs are. On the final interception #26 was wide open and had room to gain some more yards.
Peterson was not covering Davis, Peterson knocked McKenzie out of bounds (terrible on McKenzie that he let that happen), then Peterson watched Allen and covered a zone, he picked up Davis because Josh was locked on.
Bottom line, the pass was careless, we still had more downs to play, you take the easy yards to Singletary. These plays are happening consistently in the past 3 weeks. The opponents see this. If he and Dorsey do not see this, and know this, then we have much bigger problems.
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This quote from Peterson says it all on Allen:
“Honestly, he’s great,” Peterson said. “He just has to take what the defense gives him. I think that’s the thing – sometimes, he just looks a little bit too careless with the football.”
He just has to take what's given. He was doing that before the bye week. In the past 3 weeks Allen has been trying for deep balls and home runs and ignoring wide open check downs. This is the root cause of the troubles we are having closing out games. We held on versus Green Bay but the last two weeks we gave the games away.
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18 minutes ago, Success said:
I didn't think I'd feel bad so much this season.
But all is not lost. The #1 seed seems like such a requirement - and it's hardly out of reach - but who knows. It seems like half the time teams look bad for stretches during a season, squeak into the playoffs, get hot and become the team to beat.
I think adversity CAN be good for a team, if it doesn't ruin them. Really favorable schedule coming up. The 2 toughest games are home, against teams that would have to sweep us for the season (kind of unlikely), and then a series of teams that on paper, should be W's for the Bills. Hoping for a strong run here.
Please stop with the favorable schedule baloney. After the past two seasons you should have learned we can lose to any team on any week.
We need to win a damn football game before you even talk about going on a run. Right now we just blew the first seating in the conference for home field advantage, and we are 3rd in the division, 7th in the AFC playoff seating.
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1 hour ago, letsgoteam said:
Make fun of me, say I'm a liar, say whatever you want.
I'm done.
I'm 34 years old, married with a 1 month old. I live out of state.
I have been a Bills fan all of my life, I'm not going to stop being a fan, I can't. I've been cursed. For many years, I dreamed when I finally had a kid that as they grew up, I would have someone who would love the Bills as much as I do, something we could share. My wife doesn't care about sports (it sucks). That dream is over, I'm not cursing my daughter to a lifetime of misery.
Of course, I will keep up with the Bills, but I've got to change the way they have an impact in my life. Beyond my family and job, the Bills have come next. Watching every game, having whatever app needed to watch them out of state, clothing, $, etc.
I'm done. I cant keep doing this. The way I feel after a loss has to stop (especially the epic meltdown losses we are all to familiar with); I'm miserable, I'm mad, I'm angry, it consumes me. I'm to emotionally invested. Beyond my job and family, the Bills have been everything and anyone who knows me knows its my identity.
Something has to give.
So, I thought about it after the KC game last season. Now after this, its time. I'm no longer watching the Bills live. 4 hours every "Sunday" for 17 weeks and whatever playoffs and preseason stuff. That's over 70+ hours each season. That's roughly 3 days of my life each year devoted to the Bills.
What has it given back to me, how am I a better person for doing this. What good, what accomplishments, what have I earned from this.
NOTHING
All I do is become a emotional wreck and a miserable, grumpy jerk when they lose. (I can remember crying as a little kid, like 6/7 years old). The crying as a little kid, now is mostly just meant with anger. Any of my friends and family know. To the point of, my best friends wife, texted my wife and wanted to see how angry I was after the KC loss. It's embarrassing. I have become a side show spectacle, to point where people are curious how "epic" my meltdown was. (I would like to say, I actually took it like a champ, and kept it all in eternally and showed nothing emotionally). No anger, just disappointment in myself and the Bills.
From here on, perhaps I go back to it at some point. I dont know. I'm just done. I am disappointed in myself more for caring so much for 30 years.
From this point on, I'm not watching another Bills game live. I need to do better in my life, maybe this is a small step in the right direction. I know I will watch replays if they win (just like I might watch Netflix or Disney +), but I'm gaining my life back. I'm done.
Either you pull yourself together or you switch teams. This is a sport called football, it is not life. Stop being soft, Bills fans are not soft. You move on.
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32 minutes ago, boater said:
Motor is an average RB. Middle of the road. 50 percentile.
If you imagine your team a Superbowl contender, he's not good enough.The Bills OL, particularly the middle 3, are the reason he doesn't gain more yards.
He is also a good receiver so why Allen stopped checking down to him like he did early in the season, is a mystery. Allen is throwing deeper passes the past 3 games with much worse results.
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8 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
I mean, why not take the intentional safety after running out 10 or so seconds?
That error cost the game
Why not successfully execute the snap and have a player (see: Davis, Gilliam) help push you from behind for a 1 or 2 yard gain - just like the last 10 QB sneaks that we ran.
Best case. Get enough room to take a knee and win the game.
Worst case: Get stopped for a safety. Even that is not the end of the world and it is actually a strategy used successfully in the past. After the safety punt it high and deep, cover the punt, and trust the defense to finish it. The Vikes had no timeouts.
3 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:Let’s see what Jim Kelly is up to. Maybe bring in Bruce Smith to run the defense too 🙄
Not the same. Reich is a proven OC and did ok as an HC.
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24 minutes ago, cgg716 said:
To begin, the last throw by Allen is an absolutely inexcusable play, no doubt. But it’s one play versus a host of others. Vikings converted 3 4th downs, one 3rd and 9, and got a PI call on a 2nd and 22.
Yes, they got the goaline stop, but even that put the offense in a position it never should have been in. This doesn’t mean Allen is blameless. But between 13 seconds, hail Murray, the HOU wild card. A 3rd and 22 in Miami this year, and routinely getting the ball run down their throats, including last week vs NYJ. How many times before we admit that this D and it’s coaches just plain suck
Terrible take after what just happened today.
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44 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:
We will lose the the Browns next week 3 to 2
I was at the 6-3 game. Took my young (at the time) son and I had to explain to him afterwards that going to games really was fun.
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4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Just found out that Cook and Hynes had a combined three touches in the second half LMAO don't let Dorsey back in the building.
How many RBs did we dress? Singletary, Cook, Duke, Hynes, Gilliam, and T. Jones. I guess we don't need 9 D/L's.
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35 minutes ago, SCBills said:
No team has had this many absurd losses in recent memory.
Hail Murray, 13 seconds and now this epic disaster.
This isn’t normal.
Unfortunately, this team is writing their story on blowing leads and failing to close games.
Lots of their problems closing out games is due to the lack of a running game. It is that simple. The middle of that OL is not good and it's hard to run when your backs get hit in the backfield.
You have to wonder if the team confidence is impacted in close games based on the continuous poor results.
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10 minutes ago, Process said:
Look at singletary if you want to throw up.
Second down. Plenty of time. Two timeouts.
Yes. The biggest difference in Allen the last 3 weeks is that he stopped checking down and taking what was there. He is looking for splashy downfield throws way too often.
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3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
3 weeks in a row we are running Singletary and scoring. 2nd half we stop running and we throw and throw and turn the ball over. Not saying Singletary is the answer, run Cook I don't care but stop throwing the ball 90 percent of the time. Especially with a lead. We don't know how to close out games or get short yardage at key times because we just don't run the ball enough to be any good at it.
^This.
A three score lead at home in the second half. You gotta run a little bit and you have to put the game away.
The game turned for the offense in the second half, 2nd and 2 at the 12 (red zone). We passed three straight times. The FG was there and those points were needed even though it remains a 3 score game. The fourth down pass was an interception in the end zone.
Fast forward to OT. 1st and 10 at the 20 (red zone). Great time to run 26 who had 2 TDs and ran well in the first half and force the defense to think about the run. Three passes to the end zone, interception.
We are abymsal in close games this year.
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1 minute ago, CoudyBills said:
Remind us how the last season ended?
We blew a lead in a close game and then lost in OT.
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23 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
The coaching, on offense at least, is not throwing interceptions.
The play calling by Dorsey is very suspect. The run game is typically used to secure a victory when you have a 3-score lead in the second half. Buffalo's offense cannot execute this concept and instead runs riskier plays that lead to turnovers. This has happened 3 straight weeks.
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1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said:
Is Tre playing?
No
1 minute ago, Mynamemike said:Is Milano back today?
Yes
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1 minute ago, NickelCity said:
I'm not sure the excuse is getting old. Hamlin and Johnson together are a serious liability, mainly due to Johnson it appears.
Until Johnson is relegated to a backup (or he steps his play up) this talking point is likely to continue, with justification.
Johnson and Hamin are not Poyer and Hyde, we all know that. Johnson has made some mistakes and missed some tackles. We all get that. But we won games with them.
It is past the time for this defense to show some new looks and do some different things. Playing the same nickel formation every snap is getting predictable, especially with a depleted secondary.
Frazier and McD have to figure out how to win with the players they have. No excuses.
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1 minute ago, frostbitmic said:
Duke is probably our best blocker at RB, I'm guessing they brought him up to protect Josh.
He'd probably be our best RB playing on Special Teams units as well.
If you need an RB to be a blocker we already have Gilliam.
If you need an RB on ST we have Tiawan Jones.
Duke is in there to run and catch. I think we might see a new formation with Duke or Hines or both.
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3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:
I agree. I really think missing Poyer on the back end is crushing us. It’s a massive drop off from him to JJ.
This is an excuse and it is getting old. We won a bunch of games with both Johnson and Hamlin at safety, and everyone talked about how good the backups were. We won a bunch of games with Tre out, and Dane Jackson, and Edmunds out.
The big difference the past 2 games has been the pass rush. We are not getting sustained pressure like we did early in the season. Not only talking sacks, but pressure to make the QB get rid of the ball under duress. Rousseau is a loss but are we not carrying 9 DLs for a reason? Let's get to the QB and force some turnovers.
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34 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:
I hope Dean Marlowe starts over JJ.
Dane Jackson and Benford are our corners. Who would have thought that in week 10?
I thought Tre would see some action today.
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6 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
What is Frazier going to do to stop Justin Jefferson?
We usually just play our 2-high Safety look and don’t change.
But does Jefferson warrant a deviation from the usual, and command a true 100% double team?
Sack the Vikings QB a lot so Jefferson gets less targets.
Our DL needs another coming out party. It been a while since we had a lot of pressure.
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18 minutes ago, RiotAct said:
Easy - our defensive line balls out and we pound the rock with Singletary and Cook effectively.
Sounds easy. Ball out and pound rock, got it.
2 hours ago, buffaloaggie said:We saw this during the 2020 season when KC ran all over us when Milano was out. Dodson has been a capable run defender, but I think he lacks a bit in pass defense. We need to draft LBs in the early rounds. Bernard is unfortunately becoming what many feared, a bad reach.
How many games has he started? one?
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Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills
in The Stadium Wall
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He just did.