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5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
There's a lot here that I really agree with, but I think Adams’ coverage skills get underrated. Coverage was his weak link, relatively speaking, coming out of college and that carried through his rookie season. Since then he’s improved greatly, however. Now he’s excellent across the board - he can play the run, cover and rush the passer. He’d be perfect in a “positionless” defense like the Ravens and he could be a huge asset in any system that can utilize his whole skill set.The real issue with acquiring him is trading away a 2021 first round pick. Usually teams have a reasonably good idea of where their pick will fall, but there is a ton of uncertainty about next year’s draft right now. We could have a shortened season, a canceled season or some weird COVID-19 impacted season. What if KC were to trade their first rounder (and more) for Adams and then have Mahomes and a bunch of other starters quarantined for six games of an eight game season? All of a sudden that late first rounder is a top ten pick. Scenarios like that could be even worse for teams expected to be in the middle of the pack.
I’d love to have Adams on my team, though. I know that he’s not a fit for the Bills right now due to extensions for Poyer and Hyde, but I’d still love to have him. Had Poyer not just gotten his extension I would have been very interested in reading him and picks for Adams. He can make a huge impact on games, but I t’s just a weird time for a team to trade for him. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
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3 minutes ago, MJS said:
One of the biggest mistakes in Bills history. Rex is such a buffoon and had no business being a head coach anymore.
Not to mention he just didn't fit the culture of the fans, the team, or the city of Buffalo. Luckily the Pegulas realized their rookie mistakes and cut ties with him sooner rather than later and then cut ties with the buffoons who convinced them to hire him (Whaley and Brandon).
Adam Gase is Rex 2.0 and will likely be fired after two seasons as well. You could make arguments that both Rex and Gase deserved a second shot, but it’s never a good look hiring a guy whom just got fired by your divisional rival.
I will say that Rex is a far better coach than what he showed in Buffalo. I personally think he was worn out after six seasons in NY and should have taken a year off to re-group.
Gase on the other hand just strikes me as a guy who makes the situation worse the second he walks into the building. I have nothing against the guy on a personal level, but he can’t get away from my team fast enough as far as I’m concerned.
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10 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Mechanics are a huge part of a QBs game and it's something all need to work on
Aaron Rodgers coming out had terrible lower body mechanics and a horrible deep ball, and plenty wondered if he would ever be able to fix that
and to this day when Rogers is struggling it's because he reverts back to bad mechanics
Joshs mechanical issues are not muscle memory that cannot be fixed. Its feet placement, and width, and not leaning on his back foot
Using his whole lower body as a mechanism to drive the ball instead of just his amazing arm
Repetition repetition repetition and a lot of these kinks will be worked out
I personally think this article is a bunch of hogwash. It’s about finding away to throw to ball that works for you and being able to repeat it consistently. You wouldn’t teach a QB to throw the ball like Philip Rivers, but that’s what works for him.
Its also a lot easier to fix these issues (bad footwork,etc) throwing against air or in practice. When the pressure is in your face it’s easy to revert to old habits.
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10 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
You literally stated you were a better person than me, I stated evidence you are not actually helping anyone and your response is a quote from a 20 year old TV show? Must be nice to be woke and not need logic or intelligence, or even wit.
Where did I state I was a better person than you? Us Democrats and Progressives believe that the current state of affairs with regards to living conditions for Black/Brown people in poor/urban communities is unacceptable and needs to improve.
A reckoning is coming in November and its name is Joe Biden
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1 minute ago, Billl said:
I love this comment. It gets posted every time this situation occurs no matter how many times it’s proven wrong. Of course he has leverage. He’s using it right now. There is a 100% chance that he eventually gets a new contract. He is a GREAT player, easily the best on the team. Drafting him is the best move they’ve made in years.
Terrible franchises lose when they play hardball with great players. Bill and the Patriots have the juice to screw players. Gase and the Jets don’t. The more they piss off Adams, the less they will get if they have to trade him. See this thread if you’re wondering how this will play out.
Yannick isn’t technically under contract (has to sign his franchise tender). Adams is under contract for two more seasons and the Jets can franchise him in 2022 if they want.
He can B word and moan all he wants, but if he wants to play NFL football it’s on the Jets terms.
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I’m really doubting there is going to be an NFL season unless they come up with a vaccine or something of the sort.
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30 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
Exactly. He's nowhere close to being even the best safety in the division when you factor in how the game is played and what the safeties most important role is. I'd take Hyde and Poyer over him. Throw in McCourty. He might be #4?
Ahh, okay. Sportracs web page has it listed a little differently then White's so I thought it hadn't been exercised. White's is listed on the front page as exercised under the contract details but Adam's it not (says available). But yeah then in the transaction tab it says it has been exercised.
Adams is a better player than all those guys you mentioned. He played equal snaps at slot CB, S, and OLB and Gregg Williams ran the defense through him.There isn’t anyone other than a Bills fan who would take Micah Hyde over Jamal Adams.
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9 minutes ago, TigerJ said:
But Adam Gase is the difference making coach who will lead the Jets to the Super Bowl with their young superstar QB, isn't he? Jamal Adams surely would want to stay and be part of the coming glory? LOL
Well if Jamal doesn’t think he can win with the Jets why should the Jets pay him? It’s a two way street-he’s been a part of every loss the past three years.
1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:Personally I think he's a bit over rated. I want my safeties to be great cover guys. Not sure he is.
But, if I am the Jets and i think he is good I call his bluff for now. Getting a first round pick for him in return doesn't really help the franchise. They need to know what they have in Darnold now. And when it comes to the QB position, they look a lot better when the team is winning. Trading an established all pro player going into his fourth season for a first round pick that might not produce at a high level for a year or two sets the entire teams timeline back a year or two.
I think hes one of the best defensive players in the NFL. He’s a modern day Troy Polamalu.
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32 minutes ago, njbuff said:
It starts at the top and the Johnson's are every bit as bad as Ralph Wilson was when it comes to "on the field" success.
The Jets will continue to suffer until the Johnson's either sell the team or become competent.
Johnson purchased the team in 2000. In the his first 11 seasons the Jets made the playoffs 6 times, won (1) division title, and won 6 playoff games. It was a very good start by Jets standards especially compared to Leon Hess who was a terrible owner. The Jets have gone through a really lean time since 2011 and the Johnson brothers have made some awful hires (Idzik, Bowles, McCagnan, and Gase).
With all that said ownership is often overstated and Ralph Wilson is a great example. You don’t consider him a good owner, yet the Bills did go to four straight Super Bowls under his watch.
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First of all thanks for the responses
My main takeaway is that there have been very few really memorable Jets/Bills games over the years which is hard to fathom.
I will say the 2015 week 17 game was among the worst regular season Jets losses I can remember. That team had some talent would have been dangerous in the postseason.
I do get the sense that Bills fans are pretty indifferent about that game, because they want to forget about the Rex era.
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29 minutes ago, njbuff said:
Ding ding ding
Hate to say it, but you are 100 percent right. You can’t stand up there like Joe Douglas has preaching how you want to have “the best culture in sports” and have guys like this around.
The Jets are 16-32 in Jamal Adams three years with the team. To paraphrase Branch Rickey “I can lose with you I can lose without you”.
4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
The Raiders trading Khalil Mack after the draft. Sometimes you misread the situation and have to bite the bullet.-
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15 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:
Probably because jets/raiders hasn’t been relevant in forever.
do you not want to talk about bills/jets all time? I think i can guess why.
I’m not going to argue that the Bills have the overall better history, but the Jets (along with KC) were the two franchises that get credit for the merger
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He signed a contract-he has no leverage.
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24 minutes ago, Greg S said:
Speaking of the Jets it looks like Jamal Adams and the Jets could be headed for a divorce. If not I hope he holds out and misses week 1 assuming the season starts on time. He is one of their better players.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/18/jamal-adams-maybe-its-time-to-move-on-from-jets/
Jamal is a great player, but the Jets have all the leverage. Plus nobody is going trade for him knowing his contract demands.
Would you give up a first round pick (plus whatever else the Jets are asking) for the right to pay a safety 17-18MM per?
3 minutes ago, KD in CA said:Seriously, Jets fans are the most meat-headed group out of the 3.
Bills fans also don't hate the Jets as much because the Bills have done well against the Jets, dominated them for long stretches and beat them in the only playoff matchup. In fact I'm trying to think of the last time the Bills had an important loss against the Jets -- and I'm not coming up with one.
Maybe 1998 (Doug Flutie if I recall). The Jets beat the Bills on the road in an important December game in a year both teams were good.
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1 minute ago, Greg S said:
I don't think any AFC East team cracks NE's top 5 rivalry. Early on during the Pats dynasty it was probably the Colts and Ravens. Later on it became the Steelers and Broncos. NE always seem to play these teams in big regular season games as well as playoff games over the past 20 years. I would add the Giants just because of the 2 Super Bowls and they did ruin NE's bid for a perfect season.
It goes beyond the field with the Jets/Pats rivalry. BB absolutely despises the Jets and proceeds to embarrass them any chance he gets.
Keep in mind that Spygate was set off by the Jets and deflate gate by the Colts. I think those two are tops for them.
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3 minutes ago, Greg S said:
The Jets really only have 4 rivals. Pats, Bills, Dolphins, and Giants. The Colts used to be a rival but that died when they left the division. The Raiders have their own rivalries going on with the Chiefs, Broncos, and Chargers. I don't think the Raiders or Jets consider themselves rivals. Even though I am a Bills fan I also happen to be a Jets season ticket holder ( I live in NJ) and their always seem to be a lot of fights between Bills and Jets fans at least in NJ. These fanbases don't like each other at all from what I see.
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4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Dolphins were the only Bill's rival until Brady and Belichick showed up. The Patriots are not a long standing rival and wont be any longer very soon.
In both cases the rivalry was born out of futility and a decade of losses more than anything else.
Interestingly one would think Pittsburgh and Cleveland would be the rivalry but they just never played enough games against each other.
Its a little different for the Jets given the BB/Parcells history and also Mangini.
The Jets also played NE twice in playoffs during Brady era and beat them once. I would think the Pats may view Jets as number one.
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2 minutes ago, Greg S said:
I just don’t see how Buffalos history against the Jets comes close to the Raiders. -
4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
No, just their fans. ?
But seriously, no. Pats and Dolphins are most hated, Jets just because of the division. I'd be totally fine with the Bills and Jets (Allen vs Darnold) battling it out for the division for the next 15 years while the Pats and Phins suck.
I actually have always liked Bills fans in my interactions when I was a Jets season ticket holder. How can you hate someone from Buffalo?-
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I actually view the Raiders as more of a hated rival for the Jets than the Bills.
Its crazy, but despite being in the same division and both in the AFL there just isn’t much of a history between both teams. The only playoff meeting was in 1981.
Im old enough to remember OJ Simpson running a muck through the Jets, but given the Jets were a joke in the 70s I didn’t really care. Same deal with the Kelly/Levy era. It seems like when the Jets are up the Bills are down and vice versa with a lot of instances of both teams being bad sprinkled in.
Jets most hated rivals:
1) Dolphins
2) Pats
3) Raiders
4) Colts
5) Giants
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56 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
Progressives are fighting for equal opportunity how? If they are why are the worst schools in our country exclusively in liberal areas? Why is the largest income inequality in liberal areas? Why is the largest racial discord in liberal areas? I find it hilarious you actually think you have any similarity to an abolitionist, since you are not fighting for freedom of an individual but bondage by govt. You are either a special kind of ignorant or are incapable of determining who is causing the issue.
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7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
So the police are funded to keep POC down? Yup if we only filled in those potholes everything would be alright. You can go now.
Do you not believe that everyone born into this world should have the same opportunities? Same basic human rights?
That is the main things that progressives are out there fighting for in the capital everyday. Unfortunately the morality of most politicians (especially republicans) leaves a lot to be desired.
This movement is about invoking morality on the general population. Years from now I’m going to be considered on the right side of things just as those who stood tall will MLK in the 60s and the abolishinists (sp) in the 1800s.
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10 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:
Do you actually engage in any type of activities in which you try to acquire any knowledge? I only ask because your posts appear to lack even a basic understanding of the issues you address.
The difference between brown and black communities and white communities is that funding goes to police (to keep brown/black people down) as opposed to infrastructure and schools. AOC has been talking about this for years if you listen. -
8 minutes ago, bdutton said:
13% of the populations is responsible for 50% of the homicides. Its not racist to target a portion of the population which is responsible for the majority of crime. Note... its not because they are brown... its because the circumstances of which liberal policies (free abortions, section 8 housing, welfare for unwed mothers, "war on poverty", etc, etc...) have drawn them into the inner city hell holes that they are in.
And why are they living in hell holes? Everybody should have a quality home just like everyone should have access to health care and clean drinking water. Instead of spending tax solllars to fund racist cops we should be pouring money into these communities to improve residents quality of life.
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The second Biden takes office our moral standing in the world is going to skyrocket. Joe has vowed to work with liberal/progressive wing of the party to address these issues head on. One thing about Joe Biden is that he is a man of integrity.
Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren are going to work in hand in hand with Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi to improve the well being of these people and their communities. Soon we will be able to visit Europe again and hold our heads up high as Americans.