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Folks used to call Brady a system QB, it was all Belichick, he's just lucky, etc etc. Really, the admission that Brady is the GOAT only happened here in Bills land after he left New England and stopped being our boogeyman. Now, they are afraid to say Mahomes is the best because he's our new boogeyman.

It’s almost like he’s the greatest QB in the game.

I think we can finally both agree if the Bills go defense defense with picks 1 and 2, we’re going to need blood pressure medication.

IRT the bolded, to me, that's irrelevant. I'm not saying Shanahan is a some QB guru who is great at finding good QB's. I'm saying that his offense is to limited passing QB's what Greg Roman's offense is to limited running QB's. Put another way, you give Jimmy G the Shanahan system with talent, and he looks like a franchise QB in this league. You give it to Nick Mullens or Beathard, and they look like guys who are pretty good backups. You give to Matt Ryan and he's the MVP and sets records. It's the same thing with Roman's system. You give it to Tyrod, he looks solid. You give it to Kaepernick, and he looks really good. You give it to Lamar, and he's the MVP and sets records. That's not a perfect analogy and probably a bit too simple, but imo his system is the rising tide that raises all ships. None of that has anything to do with Shanahan's ability to find a franchise QB. In fact, that's Shanny's Achilles' heel. It's why they have a team that's top to bottom better than ours, but our guys found Josh Allen and they went for Trey Lance, which is why despite them having 7 All-Pros they have zero chips just like us. Here's another little piece of info from last year: W/L: 4-0 Pass YD: 231/game Comp %: 72.8 Pass TD: 1.75/game (7 in 4 games) INT: 0 RTG: 113.4 QBR: 73.1 W/L: 6-0 Pass YD: 218/game Comp %: 69.3 Pass TD: 2.16/game (13 over 6 games) INT: 0.5 (3 over 6 games) RTG: 115 QBR: 65.9 Do you know those two QB's? One of them is Jimmy G in SF with CMC and the other is Brock Purdy in SF with CMC last season. So while we don't have info on who Brock Purdy is without Shanahan, we do have info on a guy we can all agree was really a fringe franchise QB and in that system, Brock's numbers are really only moderately better. IRT CJ Beathard never looked good, he had 3400 yards 22 total TD's to 13 INT's in his SF career in 12 starts and 19 games total including spot duty. Do you think those numbers are an accurate reflection of CJ Beathard's skill as an NFL QB, or do you think his production was pumped up by a system built to give QB's training wheels? To me, the answer is very much the latter. CJ hasn't seen much time since, but if he started 17 games in Jacksonville next year, would he put up 3400 yards and 22 TD's? I doubt it. And the final rub is yes, Purdy is a great story. He has MVP numbers. If he was the first overall pick, he would be the hottest QB in the league. That's all true. But he wasn't the first overall pick for a reason. He does, IMO, have limitations, he does make a significant amount of mistakes, and despite having a great season, he's had moments where he's played closer to his draft status than MVP when he's missing just 1 of his many All-Pros. Suffice it to say, I think Purdy is closer to Mac Jones than he is to Josh Allen or Mahomes, for nothing more than I've watched him play. I like him, he does his job in that system, he is sneaky athletic, he's generally lucky or otherwise safe in regards to turnovers, and I'll be rooting for him this weekend. Really what it comes down to, is do you think Purdy would be the fifth or higher most paid QB in the NFL if they were all FA's tomorrow. I don't think he would be, which is why despite his MVP season, he ain't elite.

Shanny has the rep of making limited QB's look good because he's made limited QB's look good. CJ Beathard and Nick Mullens wouldn't even be in the league without their Shanny years imo IIRC, Jimmy G's numbers after the CMC trade and Purdy's numbers are near identical. Brock is a top 15ish QB right now. But Shanny's system has him looking like the MVP. That's why he gets so much credit/

I’d be more concerned about the elite Ben Johnson’s offense getting shut down in the second half when the Lions needed a spark.

That would be really cool if the best EPA/play team got a Super Bowl, unfortunately it’s wins that matter and we were 7-2 with Brady at the helm, and 5-5 with Kenny.

Penix to Seattle if he’s there is about as much of a lock as I can think at the moment. Regionally makes sense, and they are definitely in the QB market imo with Pete out the door.

He’s playing in his 4th Super Bowl in 5 years. This is “Brady is a system QB” all over again.

They didn’t stop him from getting to the Super Bowl. 4/5 years. We are unfortunately “also rans” to what may be the greatest dynasty ever.

Did they lose?

Nobody can stop Patrick Mahomes. Allen should demand a trade to the NFC if he wants to play in a Super Bowl.

Mason Rudolph had 3 TD's in 3 games, compared to Pickett's 7 TD's in 12 games, and had a passer rating of 118 compared to Pickett's 81.4, and I saw folks say the Steelers game didn't count because they "didn't have their QB," even though Pickett was healthy and Tomlin wanted to roll with Rudolph anyway. It's actually comical.

I'm not interested in what you guess. You guessed the defense didn't have a good game against the Pats 20 minutes ago.

Every playoff game is equally important because they are all single elimination. And yeah, if you want to make a point about the defense being horrible in the "playoffs" as a whole (which is what the topic title says) then you should probably include all of the playoff games, not just the ones we lost. It would be like saying "the defense is terrible in division games" and only including the division games we lost. That's silly.

Well see, when OUR defense shuts down the Ravens in the playoffs, it doesn't count, or something. When we talk about the defensive performance against the Pats, we base it on allowing points, but rank their offensive performance on the year by their yardage, because that makes total sense. Its very tiresome. There are legitimate criticisms against the defense in the playoffs in certain games. You don't need to contort yourself to pretend there are more.

Harbaugh has good playoff losses and McD has bad playoff wins.

This is a legitimately absurd criticism, and more evidence that this agenda has reached its zenith of inanity. That Pats team was averaging 27.2 PPG (good enough for top 6 in the league, certainly meh lmao) and they had 3 points and 2 turnovers until 4 minutes left in the third Q when the game was no longer a game (because they were down 30 points). "They couldn't even hold them under 10" is an absolutely bananaland argument. As if any team would care that they racked up some garbage time points. Btw, the Pats had put up 21 on the Bills like 3 weeks prior. Enjoy the crusade against McD that won't matter.

That commercial showing Terell Troup in coverage was a low blow.

Yeah, like the comfort of going with a second year MLB who had a year learning the system over bringing in some random FA to take the job.

Ravens should fire Harbaugh, he will never get them over the hump. Defense is getting cooked. Pacheco was drafted after

I was agreeing you lmao

Is Hunter that guy?

I think the word you are probably looking for is “comfortable” and I agree that Brady is the comfortable choice. Just as I think McD is pretty comfortable with letting Josh make a play on 4th down.

7-2 vs 5-5.