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Rookie contested catch specialists don’t draw a lot of flags

Next Gen Stats would have characterized that red zone route as negative separation.

Keon Coleman DB1

He’s still running in the tunnel and hasn’t made it on the field yet. @mrags

Didn’t we start out .500 and fire our OC midseason?

Mahomesian right now.

Ha ha are you ahead

IOL dominated. Great punt. Thats the Bills football I missed

I hope Edmunds is playing. Josh and the WR’s can build some easy confidence

Not doom. Just not good. We knew who we got in terms of pass rush. Oliver and nobody. Lmao.

Zero rush on third down. Eek.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/brandon-aiyuk-contract-extension-trade-rumors/1768034/ lmao [Maiocco] The 49ers worked out a deal with the Browns in which they would acquire veteran receiver Amari Cooper, as well as second- and fifth-round draft picks for Aiyuk. However, the Browns were not one of Aiyuk’s preferred destinations, so the trade was not completed

Josh laughs on the sidelines a lot in blow out wins. Brady was our daddy. It’s okay to admit now. He can’t hurt us anymore.

How did Carruth only get 18 years? Deplorable.

Sirianni has total "Brandon Staley entering 2023" vibes. Everyone knows he's gonna be canned, they are just gonna waste a season to do it.

Lmao Dorsey was “saddled” with Diggs, Davis, Knox and McKenzie with a generational QB. Daboll oversaw a bad offense with Zay Jones as WR1 and Bob Foster as WR2 with a rookie QB. Certainly an apples to apples comparison. Yup!

Okay, fair enough. IYO, Dorsey did a good job as OC.

There are two arguments. #1 McD/Beane want ball-control type offense with less TO's and less drives per game and this offense as it looks is intentional. #2 McD/Beane cobbled together a group for 2024 to get by with eyes on 2025. I don't have as much of a problem with this as trading Diggs away with his huge cap hit puts a huge black mark on the season already, with the large corollary that I would have liked more rookies or youngish talent in the WR room if they are viewing this as a stepping stone year. There is a case for #2 imo. I am down on Beane prioritizing WR because it felt increasingly obvious over the last 3 seasons to do so, but he did have that stretch across 19 and 20 where he built the room to be quite good over the course of two seasons.

It’s a compounding problem. Dorsey’s numbers and offense would’ve probably looked even better if he had 2020 offensive talent at his disposable. It may have been even better than Daboll’s 2020. But when you let receiving talent erode, then run an offense that relies predominantly on “beat your man” philosophies, you get what we got. We always mention that improving the weapons make Josh’s life easier. It also makes the OC’s life easier. Even great OC’s like Shanny can struggle when they don’t have Deebo or Trent Williams.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-guardian-caps-everything-you-need-to-know-about-football-s-new-protective-helmet/ar-AA1otexf Are Guardian Caps Mandatory? Yes and no. The NFL introduced Guardian Caps during 2022 training camps. In 2023, the league required positions that receive the most head contact — running backs, linemen, and linebackers — to wear the extra padding in camp. In 2024, every position, excluding quarterbacks and specialists, was mandated to use a Guardian Cap in training camp. NFL players who wore one of six new helmet models approved by the league and the NFLPA were exempt from using Guardian Caps.

I think the floor for a Josh Allen offense with a couple of good to great targets is about top 5 tbh. Lots of folks argued Daboll sucked/wasn't doing a good job and they were 3rd in points in 2021 and 2nd in points in 2020. The results speak for themselves, eh?

Oh I know lmao. In your defense, his EPA/Starbucks order in Cleveland is looking elite by all accounts this off-season.

Okay, so you think he did a good coaching job. Agree to disagree. @BADOLBILZ probably won’t agree he did a good job but will also nitpick a take he doesn’t even disagree with.

Got it. When you said neither Aiyuk or Deebo are in their plans two years from now, I thought you were trying to say they can’t keep either of them longer term. Philly interesting because Jalen Hurts’ deal is truly cap voodoo and I have no idea how it’s gonna play out lol. He had a void year with a $97M cap hit in 2029. I don’t even know where to start with interpreting it.

Let's just be frank. Do you think the Bills offense was well-coached in Dorsey's tenure? I had multiple views of receivers running into the same spots on their routes during the Dorsey era. Is that Dorsey or the players or the WR coach? In Dorsey's full year, the Bills had the second most TO's in football. Their worst ranking in Josh Allen's career. Is that Dorsey or the players or the position coaches? We can say it wasn't all Dorsey's fault because of the talent erosion, because McD made big mistakes too, because Josh got hurt. But the crux of the matter is, "was Dorsey doing a good job?" The answer, imo, is no, and with that this conversation can end lmao.