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We are just moments away from someone earnestly arguing that losing a couple rotational DL players and rookies is worse than losing your starting QB. I can feel it.

Ravens too Steelers as well

George Pickens. Deebo Samuel. DK Metcalf. Brian Thomas Jr. All would be WR1 by a mile. Complete falsehood. They gave Curtis Samuel 3 years $39M that offseason. It was just a completely horrific deal.

So we just throw out GMs draft records because it's all hindsight and everyone misses occasionally? Is that right?

I really enjoy this commentary. What players from our OL “depth” would start on other teams? What teams would they start for, specifically? If they were viewed as these significant upgrades to those teams, why have their GMs not been calling Beane offering a 4th round pick for that depth player that would start for them pre-trade deadline or during TC? If they are offering trades for our OL depth, is Beane not accepting trades? Would he rather have VDM or Alec Anderson than a 4th rounder next year? Like most claims around this teams “talent,” this take falls apart with even basic scrutiny. We have some quality backups who have done decently in spot duty. Rick Bates was another one of those dudes who was “great depth who would start for a ton of teams”. He was immediately shipped off to the Bears for a 5th rounder where he has started 2 games in the last 2 years.

Is the counterpoint that Keon Coleman wasn’t actually a bad pick, because he was projected to go around the early second round, and it’s only with the benefit of hindsight that we say we should have drafted McConkey? Should the Browns or Jets or Cardinals GMs not feel bad because it’s only with the benefit of hindsight that they should’ve taken Josh or Lamar over Baker, Darnold and Rosen? Doesn’t feel right to me.

Some would say that was the secret to building a sneaky elite offense

That doesn’t make them good QBs though. That’s the point.

The difference is that Shanny is the reason Jimmy G and Brock Purdy and to a lesser extent CJ Beathard and Nick Mulldog were productive. Mac Jones too. The system makes the QB in SF.

If not for the refs, the bills could’ve been blown out by the eagles in the Super Bowl is quite the defense of McD’s chances of winning a ring with Allen.

We almost lost a game we were up 24-6 in the 3rd Q? I think you are conflating the two chargers games in the Allen era. Ultimstely, I wasn’t trying to say there was never a bad offensive game, I just think the 2020 offense was best equipped to make good or great Josh Allen games as easy as possible. The Niners game comes to mind as a team with a very good defense that he just smoked. Does this have anything to do with the change in touchback rules I wonder.

I can honestly only remember one other Bill annihilating another player in the last 5 years that wasn’t Rapp related, and it was Edmunds going low on a gang tackle and bending Dane Jackson in half

If the Bills pass on Coleman and the Pats take them, are the Pats still leading the division today?

How many cracks do we give McD at it until we let someone else try? At what point do you say, "maybe he's not capable." We are approaching 10 years. we also don’t have the kind of QB that 30 other teams have. Yes, the Jets and Browns also don’t win the Super Bowl. That’s not really relevant to our situation.

Meh I completely disagree. 2024 felt that way because Josh was basically playing at a transcendent level from the Houston game on. He was still needing to scramble out of the pocket to hit long shots to Shakir or Mack Hollins to get the offense going. He just was playing as perfect as an NFL QB can play. The difference between 2024 and 2025 is that teams respect us deep even less and have done their darnedest to take away Josh’s explosive plays made by his legs. Combine that with Josh not being able to maintain playing basically perfect, and you get a laborious offense despite being captained by a superstar. go back and watch 2020 Bills film. It was pitch and catch for Josh. He still did incredible things and made incredible plays, but his life was so much easier down to down.