Simon

The jets got cornholed in the last 5 minutes, but that wasn't a grounding penalty. He was hit as he was throwing toward an eligible receiver.

Absolutely. I was far more emotionally invested in that game than I've been all year, to the point where my wife was laughing at me storming around the living room on 3rd downs. After Tre got hurt, I sat down and didn't make a peep the rest of the game.

Depends on who he's dating at the time.....

I don't disagree with the general sentiment but there was virtually zero chance of that ball being completed into that particular coverage.

He came back in the game and played a couple series after Tre went down. It will be tender but he can go with it.

He's allowed to have contact at that depth as long as he's not yanking on him. His hands are open enough that you can actually see his fingers. When you consider the man under coverage and the down/distance, it is a very strange place to throw a borderline flag where he couldn't even really see the engagement from his angle. Combine it with the egregious holding a couple plays earlier and that's two calls in the last 5 minutes of a tight game that altered possession. It's a really, really bad look.

Either that or just make it a 10yrd penalty without the automatic 1st down.

His hand was open, you can actually see the separation between his fingers. That's a trash call, particularly in that coverage.

You're going to have to wait til 2024

I cannot believe he threw that flag in that coverage

That's going to be a meme tomorrow

Thats got to be coming back wiht offsetting fouls

Don't fluff those pillows yet, fellas

I gave them a game ball in the thread; they were great. Only time it was quiet was the stunned silence after Tre went down.

Whew, glad you're OK....

You've seen all that the last time the Bills were healthy.

I watched the Bills game on this today: Clearstream MaxV Pro I'm about 50 miles from Erie and I don't even need to take it outside; I just put it in the kitchen window for a few hours when I want to use it. Actual size is about 30" x 20"

He should have caught it, but that ball is not caught 90% of the time by anybody.

He was probably stunned that not only did Allen fit it in there, but that thing was on top of him like right now.

The one that Shakir couldn't bring in may have been a little bit forced (although I think it was 3rd down). It was also one of the most obscene throws I've ever seen.

That first half was about as close to perfect as you'll ever see an NFL QB.

Believe it or not, he caught an enormous amount of crap on here the one year that he got hurt. It was nuts. I think I got into more internet dustups with the large majority of the board that was writing him off and ragging on him, than I have over any other subject (except maybe Bledsoe). When he came back and immediately started bullrushing Tackles into next week, I laughed for the entire season.

I'd compare it more to Schobel, just because he was actually as good as Oliver

Not as a corner.