Hermes

All they care about is endorsements obviously 🙄 I'm talking about the big picture. If the Bills win the Superbowl this year who in God's name (besides some ingrates on this board,) will care about a week 7 loss to the Pats. Get over the doom and gloom narrative that the team sucks if they don't blow every team out and win 50-0. Sure they might have some issues. Its week 7! They're currently in a playoff position and there's still 10 games for them to play. Yeah they lost to the Pats and of course they care in this moment. But do you think for one second the Bills players care enough that they're going to throw in the towel after a couple bad weeks. Do they care so much that they lost to the Pats they're gonna mope all season long and Josh Allen and Co. are already looking forward to the draft? You know I actually think that's what the players meeting was about. If they can suck enough to get Marvin Harrison Jr next year. That's why Von called it cause it's in his GM dna. They need a WR 2 to compete so this whole season is lost. The defense let Mac Jones work down the field for the win in week 7. I guess the season is over. We should all just call it as fans and boycott the season and root for a top pick in the draft

That's the thing. The Bills have been here before, for years, and they know as long as they make the dance they can go all the way. Who cares how they get there, as long as they do. In a vacuum anything can look as good or bad as you want to make it out to look, but at the end of the day you have to look at everything else going on. Sure, I'd love it if the Bills blew every team out en route to a superbowl win. How many teams have done that? How many teams have been THE team all season long and then smash the superbowl? It's just not a realistic proposition. At the end of the day the team that wins is typically the team that's hot at the right time. We can all B word and complain about how bad they look and how they're going nowhere or we can enjoy the ride and see how things play out. As they say hope springs eternal, and I'm just here for the ride

The defense is in a transition period from losing Milano, White, and Jones, while missing Oliver this past game. There's definitely cause for concern regarding the viability of a top notch defense when when a quarter of starters are injured but I'm willing to see how the season plays out. No one knows what might happen the rest of the season, maybe the Bills win out, maybe they lose out. That's why you play the games. To say they're a trash team because they've had a rough start is asinine when we've literally watched the Patriots do it for 20 years. Obviously not every year but some years. It's not about how you start, it's how you finish

A team that knows the Bills more intimately than 28 other team in the league and is literally fighting to stay relevant. The coach of that team has how many superbowl rings and playoff experience? It's so easy to brush of as a casual fan, but to think Belichek isn't using this win to tell his team the season isn't lost is a joke. He's trying to rally the troops and save his legacy, and what a way to do it..

At this point in the Bills "window" they already know what the score is.... winning a superbowl or bust. Now, I know a division game should probably mean something..., but at the end of the day the Patriots are not a threat to the Bills playoffs chances, in the least. The team knows this (unfortunately) and doesn't view these weaker teams as threats, either. Which has led to the lackluster performances we've grown so (dis/un?)fond of, the past 2-3 years. The issue is that the Bills aren't some up-and-coming team that other teams are caught offguard by. They have been a juggernaut for the past 4-5 seasons, regularly taking the lunch money of the weaker teams, especially those in their division.. At this point, every team that the Bills play against look at this roster as a litmus test, of sorts, to see where they rank in the NFL hierarchy. While the Bills, are trying to do what they can to play their best football in the late season and playoffs. It's a stark difference from the games games they played against the Patriots as "our superbowl" from the drought era. And that's the learning curve that the team has fallen behind on. For a lot of the teams in the league it's obvious that the Bills are their superbowl. They want to say "Yeah we might have finished 2-15, but one of those wins was against the Bills!" The other team's players get extra jazzed up to make a play against Allen (or Diggs, et al). It's easier to do that, than say, Allen or Diggs getting up to make a play on some JAGs. They'd rather make plays against the top teams and top players (it just means more). What we are watching is a team that is trying to work through the kinks early in the season rather than later and I'm all for it. I'd rather see them lose on the late TD to the Pats instead of the Chiefs. Let them work things out now and head into the bye at 7-5 or 6-6 (or better). I'm sure it wouldn't surprise anyone to see them finish 12-5 or 11-6 in either scenario. Unless you have no faith of course. But I digress. What I've seen from this team is a concerted effort to win games in a variety of ways. To be able to go on long clock draining drives (even, at times, to the detriment of the offense) and control the game a different way. Sure, the offense could go no huddle and score almost at will, but at the end of the day how sustainable is that really. I'm sure teams will figure it out or the offense will burn itself out eventually. Why not save the squeeze for crunch time? When it comes to the defense, it has almost certainly been as disappointing as the offense as of late. (Although they get a minor pass with the injury situation). But, It's frustrating to see all of the blitzes and manufactured pressures not hitting home and then Mac and cheese making the defense look like swiss. Hopefully this is less of a trend and more of an aberration for the rest of the season. The true test for the defense is coming up soon and I'm excited to see how they respond. If they're still sucking hopefully the offense can regroup and pave the way for more wins. It's almost time to turn on the gas and see what teams can handle the pressure. I know the Bills can, and hopefully will, ramp up the intensity when it comes down to it, and I, for one, can't wait for these late season games to separate the cream from the crop. I know things seem dire but of all the teams the Bills are behind in the standings only the Chiefs have a true game up on them. On top of the fact that the Bills themselves are still in position to make the playoffs if the season ended today. I like those odds. Go Bills!

Honestly, that list is generally underwhelming. Out of the 25 or so WRs only a handful, or so, of them would really help out the team now. On top of the fact that not only did Beane pass on these guys but so did (in most cases) every other GM. You're also looking at things in vacuum and not the overall team composition and needs at the time of the drafts. It's easy to look back and say the Bills or any other team should have drafted Brady, Brees, or Wilson (RIP). The hard part is deciding in the moment who will help your team now and in the future

Dammit Ela.... I mean Benford

The fact that you can own, makes it better. We'll see very soon how much he impacts a defense that's already playing lights. Imo it can't hurt to have a HOF player joining the fold

Seriously. Everything happens so fast there's no chance that CB has a prayer making a play

I wonder what Maddy glab had to say 🤔

Three runs to Cook from the 12 for a TD. Absolutely huge. On what was essentially the same play no less

No

I've been thinking that same thing myself

When he has an all-time great rookie season, we can call him that. The King of Tight Ends, Dalton 'King' Caid

My favorite part is that Josh could care less about the questions and just wants to get back in the scrap.

Fair enough. I'll have to pay more attention to the Bengals this year (gross) to see if he's worth the hype.

Right, it is a massive difference. On an incredibly limited sample size of 2(!) games, one of which Mahomes was severely impacted by an ankle injury. If you're looking to say that your analysis on coaches winning a superbowl is accurate because of your robust historical dataset, then what does that say about this the situation we have here. I'm not even going to entertain the thought of going on the Chiefs board for countless reasons, but in this instance, fan sentiment means absolutely nothing. To say that this 2 game sample size is comparable to the 40 games played between the Bills and Belichek is laughable. Again, we'll have to see how both defenses play throughout the season and postseason to determine if he would even be an upgrade defensively like you've mentioned. This will be McDermott's first season calling plays so any comparison to previous seasons would be against Frazier.

If his defense performs better than McDermott's this year, particularly in the playoffs, then I can see you point about it helping the Bills. Not to say anything about the leadership qualities or intangibles of either man. How much it does it really hurt the Chiefs though? Giving up 24 points isn't great (better than the Bills D did in the 13 seconds game, and the Chiefs ppg ave of 28.2 that year) and considering Mahomes was playing on a bum ankle and still drove down to win the game against them last year I wouldn't necessarily say they were stopping them. Add in the fact that he is a coordinator for a team that isn't named the Chiefs, I just can't see how it hurts them. If anything wouldn't it make the Bengals easier for the Chiefs to beat because therefore helping them instead? It's interesting that your choice would be a DC when the current NFL trend is to hire the hot OC's for head coach. The last 4 superbowls featured exclusively former OC's and the last former DC to win is Belichek (with Brady) I don't claim to know much, especially regarding NFL/college coaches, but it makes sense to me that an up and coming OC would be a better choice.

@Einstein assuming all of your calculations are indeed accurate and there's less than a 1% chance the Bills win it all with him at the helm, who would you have the Bills replace McDermott with? Does this new coach have a statistically significant , >1% chance of winning the superbowl? Would you be able to provide a historical analyais for your candidate elaborating on what makes him have greater odds than McDermott? I'm genuinely curious since you've clearly dedicated a substantial amount of time to the subject matter and the data you present isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the extention the Bills just doled out. In my opinion, going through all of the effort that you have to discredit the Bills HC is an exercise in futility without providing alternatives to the current state of the Bills organization.

The issue is that if he did have a statistically significant number of games to compare then he would be considered injury prone. There's also loads of other contributing factors that would impact the data (i.e. what/if any other defensive starters also missed time, the strength of the offenses played during those games, how weather may have factored into games, etc.) It's just too hard to accurately quantify an individual players contribution to overall team performance. I look at it as a a big hit to the Bills defense but McDermott will change things up to scheme around losing Edmunds

Honestly, my wife and I occasionally have friction about different issues and at times (I specifically) need space. It's a fact of human nature that you're not always going to see eye to eye with someone else, especially when there's change involved, and people just process things differently. At this point it seems more like something to fill the airwaves than anything remotely substantial. The people who are concerned about it are the same people who think the Bills are gonna fall to the bottom of the AFCE.

That's actually a pretty impressive statistical drop-off showing how much Edmunds does impact the defense. It will be interesting to see how the defense responds to his absence. A TD and 40 ypg is nothing to scoff at

I heard rumblings they're calling it the Vishnu formation but I didn't want to post about it because I think that's the Bills secret weapon this year. How many times did we see McKittrick and Gabe try it out last year? The height difference was simply insurmountable...

Apparently that ties the '87 Patriots for the most Qbs to start in a season. (They went 8-7! But missed the playoffs lol) I can't imagine how a modern NFL team would fair under those condition. The game is so nuanced now that having a QB who presumably wasn't on the roster to learn the offense would be a nightmare. Realistically, I'm jaded from the way that last season ended. That being said, I think the Bills have as good a shot as any team to win the Superbowl.

If your not concerned you aren't paying attention. Diggs feud with Allen has come to a climax (since Josh got with Diggs then GF, a local bartender pregnant, so Diggs retaliated by hooking up with @brittwill and Josh found out the night before the Bengals game). This led the team to cancel practice since everyone was butthurt about the whole situation. The roster is currently in shambles because Beane drafted a TE who's role will be almost exclusively to block when their biggest need was at pass catcher and they spent the money they freed up with the Oliver extension on a washed pass rusher instead of Dhop. On top of the fact they decided to pointedly ignore the offense this offseason and also failed to retain Edmunds, I don't see how you can see this offseason as anything other than an abject failure. I'll be surprised if the Bills win even one game this season.