Mikie2times

I would like to see a game in February before I die with our Hall of Fame QB. Do you see more or less reason to think our annual post season defensive debacle will occur this year? It's all but assured just like it's all but assured his fan club will proclaim every starter wasn't healthy as a reason to justify his negligence.

I miss your threads on all things Bills this season. I know you said it was getting to be a bit much each week. If you ever have time, I know I really enjoyed them!

Lets recap this sport. You said the Houston defense is over rated. I assume based on one game (the Chiefs games) maybe more. Who knows. Lets give you more credit than that. I posted examples of of 4 games this year where the Houston defense made some really good QB's look very bad. You proceeded to discredit all 4 games because somehow they don't count in your interesting way of looking at the world. Injuries or they didn't win the game or something. Who knows at this point. Then you started insinuating that people called Houston the 85 Bears. I assume you were trying to distract or shift the goal post because you don't have anything outside of your opinions to back up your way of thinking. So while they did have two of the lowest completion rate games since 1970 (one against our boy, but like you said that doesn't count) I don't think they're the 85 Bears. I also really don't need to compare them to our trash defense. The stats they have speak for themselves unless they're speaking to you at which point it enters a world where the only logical things are the things your mind believes.

I know you don't view stats as being as valid as your observations but others might see it differently.

McD's defense has been getting a pass on normal injuries for years now. Just because posters like you want to create the idea that our injuries are somehow unique and excessive doesn't make that actually real. You have nothing factual to form an opinion that our injuries have been excessive or egregious outside of your desire to explain why our defense gets a free pass.

Cool, back to the injury excuse. First time that has shown up. I also suppose Beane is probably the only guy left who Sean could still throw under the bus at this point.

You know what's brilliant, assuming this team will get it figured out on defense by the playoffs. They rank DEAD LAST since week 8 in EPA defense if you don't include turnovers, 26th if you do. It's a bad regulars season defense which is a first for McD. Can't imagine what that translates into come postseason.

Being sarcastic

So what context are you using with other teams? If I traveled to Florida in the summer and it was 80 degrees and I said, wow, it's hot outside! Well, maybe it is actually hot outside. But if the average temperature is 15 degrees warmer is it really "hot" outside in the scheme of things? As I have pointed out multiple times in this thread, the group pounding the pavement for Buffalo having horrific injury luck has no context of what bad injury luck means. They have no understanding of what is normal or average from the league for anything they're arguing. They think we are unique and they have no idea if that is true or not. Nor do I, I just have enough common sense to say you can't call something more or less without the context of what more or less is.

I brought up the notion that Beane was not a witch this offseason and pretty much got destroyed. He's in the untouchable group in these parts. From my perspective both McD and Beane can't be elite if this is where we are. One of them can be, but both of them can't be.

We basically spent all offseason complaining how we never give Allen any resources. Which is largely true. So if your statement is also true are you saying it's on Beane?

I mean, we have total games missed, total games lost to IR, what is your stat going to be? Total starters lost by positional group? If that's it and you want to take the time to run the data then maybe you can claim you have a rational take. As it stands its just based on feel feels.

It's games missed on the year. Which certainly isn't perfect, but I don't think people really understand what some of these teams are dealing with. No context here, just bad luck for us.

I'm arguing that this topic is far too nuanced for myself or you or any casual fan to form an opinion that is valid. Yet many on here use injuries to justify just about everything that occurs to this team. EX: The Bills often take on high rates of injuries to one position group. Ok, sure, that seems to be the case but what context do you have? You can't possibly know the average rate of injury that occurs across singular positional groupings. Even if you did, how could you determine the expected impact vs the actual impact so you could actually weight the impact correctly? It's a great angle for people to debate from because it can't be proved or disproved. What evidence that does exist isn't very supportive as far as this team being very unlucky with injuries as a whole. I still don't have an opinion, mine is more that those who use this stuff to form opinions are largely full of it.

Did you value the Lions win? It was basically against a 2nd team defense. Same with the 49ers. But we really don't talk about those things. We only talk about when it impacts us. When the reality is we aren't even that banged up compared to other teams. I doubt we have been historically but the idea has been allowed to build for so long now. It's just what our fans go to. Yesterday I remember in the game day thread a guy saying the defense sucks and then another guy saying, well, we have 4 starters out! It's almost January. Who doesn't have 4 starters out?

Since week 8 this defense is the worst in football from an EPA standpoint without turnovers. With turnovers we rank 26th.

We constantly overestimate the impact of injuries on us vs other teams. It's just what we do. It's a nice way to justify why things did or didn't happen how we expected and it always works because the actual impacts can't fully be measured and nobody has the time to research the context with other teams.

It's in this thread about 6 posts down

Sure about that?

In EPA they rank 4th and we rank 15th. Since week 8 they rank 3rd and we rank 26th. I'm harsh on the Bills and not them because our defense is trash. Houston's is not. Not very complicated. I don't have to selectively pick games (which ironically you're actually doing in this post).

They're in the top 5 in just about every defensive metric advanced or otherwise and news flash, you dismissing something doesn't mean its actually dismissed nor it's even logical. You're talking about wins and losses as a way to discredit the defense they play then undermining it;s contribution to the games to somehow align with your argument which is very bizarre to be perfectly honest. Allen had the worst game of his career against them. Goff the worst game all season.

I have observed Jay Skurski a lot over multiple years, with multiple binoculars, and while all of this sounds rather creepy, I can confirm Jay Skurski was in fact irritable.

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I just don't think we take those games as seriously as the Jets and Dolphins and they certainly do. We seemed to handle them better post Brady when they were actually competitive.