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4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
Highest upside means he isn’t ready to play yet - and may never be.
This type of thinking doesn't get you Josh Allen, or Dawson Knox, or Greg Rousseau... or Super Bowl rings.
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1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:
Can we draft a CB in round 3 also just to be sure?
You say this like we didn't JUST use our 1st and 2nd round picks on the same position last year...
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33 minutes ago, glazeduck said:
Honestly, Tariq Woolen needs to be in the discussion and probably needs to be the pick (first pick be darned).
Arguably the highest upside of any player left on the board.
Position of need for our roster.
Position of need in the broader evolving football landscape.
Unique physical talent.
Right staff to get the most out of a player like this.
He's who I'll be hoping we land in this situation and I HATED our double dip last year.
For perspective... Our very own Joe Marino mocked Woolen to us IN THE FIRST ROUND in his newest mock draft. Feels high, which is why I've said before that the ideal scenario is trading down to improve our 2 and ending up with Woolen and George Pickens, BUT... he'd be a steal at 57.
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15 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Added just for you
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1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:
My goal was to accumulate value in the sweet spot of the draft, based on our needs...👍
Definitely get and like the thought, but I'd focus more on teams with multiple high 2s or a late 1/high 2 and try to swaps 1s and 2s with them...
Jets, Lions and Seahawks all fit that mold. Let them move up to get a "their guy" (Lions, perhaps w/ a QB) and upgrade our 2 so we can get 2 higher level players instead of 1... That'd be my though.
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1 hour ago, Kangaxx said:
Brian Robinson Jr - RB (Alabama)
Right conference, wrong school.
Give me Zamir White and Kevin Harris all day long.
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That's nowhere near enough value to move that far down with the roster we have currently...
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Honestly, Tariq Woolen needs to be in the discussion and probably needs to be the pick (first pick be darned).
Arguably the highest upside of any player left on the board.
Position of need for our roster.
Position of need in the broader evolving football landscape.
Unique physical talent.
Right staff to get the most out of a player like this.
He's who I'll be hoping we land in this situation and I HATED our double dip last year.
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34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Cam would be so sweet in Green Bay too. Drake makes sense but man.... Cam is pure Packer.
100% I really like him as a player in general, but specifically in GB... made too much sense!
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After spending the first 6 1/2 minutes of their clock going back and forth between throwing a tantrum and cursing the heavens and Doc Brown for taking Cameron Thomas just ahead of them, the Green Bay Packers finally select Drake Jackson, DE, USC.
After losing significant talent on the DL, particularly in the pass rush, the Pack opts to go with Jackson who fits into their scheme seamlessly. Jackson is likely not the highest ranked edge player on many draftnik boards but this is a kid that can flat out play.
The Patriots @BillfromNYC are on the clock.
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16 minutes ago, mannc said:
I love this one...I mean, we have to add a return man at some point, don't we? Or are we just hoping the league outlaws kickoffs and punts?
This is what I was going to say... If you're drafting Velus Jones as anything other than a kick returner and maybe a gadget player, you're expecting too much. BUT, he certainly could be dynamic in that role.
He's not ever going to be a routinely effective WR, though, so expectations should be tempered and value and price adjusted accordingly...
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I thought I was the only one on Greg Dulcich, but apparently not. Think that kid has poor-man's Kittle written all over him. If he doesn't count, my other TE sleeper that absolutely does is Derrick Deese from SJSU.
Guy runs routes and catches the ball like a WR but has more than enough size to be an effective blocker.
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8 minutes ago, mannc said:
I really wish the Ducks would stop playing these graduate transfers at QB...Is it really that hard to recruit a good high school QB?
When your (now ex) coach (Mario) puts all his recruiting chips in 1 QB basket (DJU) and ignores the incredible talent right down the road (Bryce Young), sadly, sometimes the answer yes.
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50 minutes ago, mannc said:
Who are guys you've watched in college who aren't getting a lot of pre-draft buzz, but you think are going to be good pros, for the Bills or for some other team? I'll start:
BJ Baylor, RB, Oregon State: Redshirt Jr this year...led the Pac 12 in rushing (1337 yards and 5.9 ypc)...listed at 5'11'' and 200 pounds but looks and plays a lot bigger. Downhill runner with a really nice burst who breaks a ton of tackles...only 8 catches this year. Go watch his game tape against USC...he was a force. For some reason, Baylor was not invited to the NFL Combine. Participated in OSU's pro day yesterday but his 40 time has not been published. I'd expect it is 4.55 or better. Would be a great day 3 pick-up for the Bills as he has an element that their current stable of backs don't have.
LOVE Baylor, the kid runs like an NFL back. He's older and has durability ?s but my god is he fun to watch (and that's saying this as a Duck) when he's on.
Speaking of Ducks... Keep Devon Williams on your radar. 6'5, long-armed WR, former high 4* recruit, started his career at USC but transferred to Oregon. At Oregon he had arguably THE WORST QB in college FB not targeting him for 2 consecutive years. I'm not kidding or exaggerating when I say there would be entire quarters or halves of games where he wouldn't get a target and yet was consistently open, like WIDE open. As such, he doesn't have the production you would want, but in the few games that he was actually and accurately fed the ball (they were few and far in between), he dominated. He's a great athlete and a bully in jump-ball situations.
Should've stayed in college, but now has a young baby and wanting to provide for his family. This is the kind of kid that could definitely be a sleeper. DEFINITELY a kid I want to see succeed.
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Just now, Magnum Force said:
I think he ends up a Billl. Possibly 3rd Round
Big fan of this kid...
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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I don't know that I agree that he has a low ceiling, I think that is being a bit over exaggerated with him personally.
I've seen him in person twice, he's nothing special.
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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I agree McDuffie is low ceiling. Woolen in the 2nd is extremely high ceiling. But super low floor.
No question he's low floor. I just think we'll be good enough, and have a good enough staff and ability to coach him up, to take that risk.
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With the 28th selection, the Green Bay Packers select Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn St.
Our QB needs weapons, and while we selected the WR with the highest upside 6 picks ago, Dotson will give him a starting, reliable WR immediately and the closest thing this draft has to a Davante Adams (in terms of play style).
The Chiefs @Logic is on the clock
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6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
If Edmunds were moved out and Hamilton is the target in a trade up then Taron Johnson wouldn’t be affected. Hamilton would slide into Edmunds role in nickel package.
Edmunds isn't going anywhere.
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Just now, Logic said:
Hamilton is awesome, but it would be a bizarre “spinning our wheels” move to trade up for a safety. I also don’t think it would play well in the locker room to move on from Po or Hyde, not to mention both guys are coming off career years.I get planning for the future, but it would be downright weird and illogical of me to move up for a safety.
I don't think you'd trade either. I'd see him as a 3rd safety/hybrid LB and move Taron Johnson out to the edge -- he showed he can hold his own out there. Just spitballing, but if he really is sliding he'd be an awesome piece to add to this defense.
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2 minutes ago, Logic said:
The two key questions here:
Who would the Bills be moving up for?
What veterans have trade value?
The logical answers to the first question would seem to be a corner or WR. Maybe they really like Derek Stingley or Jameson Williams.
The only answers I could come up with to the second question are Tremaine Edmunds and Zack Moss.
Interesting report. I can’t see them moving up TOO high, as it would cost a ton to get from 25th into the top 10. Maybe they just want to get inside the top 20 to ensure they get one of these WRs or CBS before the talent level drops off.
Moss was the name that came to mind for me.
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Doesn't shock me, we're in no-man's land... Us meeting with Kyle Hamilton is really interesting in this regard...
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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:
not that it means anything, but I’d give booth about a 33% chance of being there when we pick. Jmo.I wouldn't even put it that high -- my point was he's a guy I could see them trading up for.
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2 minutes ago, Logic said:
Ever since Beane came to town, the Bills only seem to take physical freaks with high ceilings in the first round.
McDuffie is not that.
I’d bet that a trade up for one of the top corners or a trade down to collect more picks in the middle rounds — the sweet spot of this draft — would be more likely.
100% they also seem to target talented guys who've dropped for whatever reason... That to me screams Booth.
TSW Mock Draft Buffalo Bills Poll - Who should the Bills take at 57? ***Poll closing at 8p est 4/3/22
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This is all VERY moot, because the guy we're debating will be long gone by 57 AND our 1st rd pick was...not a good one.
But since you're wanting to debate...
The NFL is evolving, looking to get the ball to athletes in space. CB is our most glaring need and our 2nd biggest need has no real viable candidates available. Our staff has repeatedly proven their ability to develop toolsy athletes and Woolen is that in spades. They've also show their ability to move guys around and find fits in different positions (neither Poyer nor Hyde were full time safeties when they came here) -- I'm not saying that we draft Woolen or McDuff to move them to S, but they'd find ways to get them on the field. Perhaps Johnson becomes the S and McDuff stays where he's best in the slot.
My whole point is simply that the type of player aligns better to the value and need on the board with Woolen than arguably anyone else. I personally HATED the McDuffie pick too, so might as well right that wrong...
Walker is the only other guy available I can see a viable debate for, so agree w/ you there. I just also happen to like a number of RBs deeper into the draft and am also fine with airing it out 60x a game lol