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Should have been 18/20, but the Bills can't count.

Well, Denver missed at Buffalo. You know the rest.

These right here are why we need Nyheim Hines back:

Ok, probably not on the field then? But players in the video were running on either side of it. during that field goal We need someone who was at the game or saw it on TV. Or is familar wuth Nickedson Field in Boston.

I heard it in the 99's

Watch the video (1:37-1:41): it was!!

You have to enter the code "BIGDEAL" at checkout for the $1.99 a month deal, or "YEARLONG" for the annual $19.99 deal. It is on the website. I assume it would work with the app too. https://www.peacocktv.com/offer/blackfriday Good question. They don't say on the website. I assume it will last longer, but do you want to take the chance? Very nice. I will add this to my OP, and give you credit!

[I thought of putting this in the game thread today, but I figured this was a little different. Mods: please merge if necessary.] Yep, I was not alive then, but that AFL used to have regular Friday games, including on Black Friday (not sure really if Black Friday was a thing back then though). The last Black Friday game was November 23, 1962 with Buffalo losing at Boston 21-10. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playing-first-black-friday-game-why-is-there-a-game-on-the-friday-after-thanksgiving/ Jack Kemp threw for 194 yards and ran for a TD, but was bested by his counterpart Tom Yewcic with 231 yards and 3 TD's. Here is a short video I found: LOL at the utility pole in the middle of the field, viewable from 1:37-1:41 in the video. Guess the AFL cared a lot about player safety: Box score: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/196211230nwe.htm [Also a few tidbits about other Friday games from the CBS article above: "The last time the NFL played a game on a Friday that wasn't in December was when the Los Angeles Rams played the St. Louis Cardinals to open the season on Sept. 18, 1970 -- a game that started at 11 p.m. ET." "Is the NFL entering unchartered territory? The NFL has played games on Fridays, but they have been played on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day since 1999. The league did have a pair of Friday games on New Year's Eve in 1993, which was also a holiday. The last time the NFL played games on a Friday that wasn't on a holiday was in 1986, six days before Christmas on Dec. 19. "]

Dude Perfect is on the game today. Never heard of them, but they must be famous:

UPDATE 2: CBS Early: Memphis TN: JAX-HOU to PIT-CIN (Wed) Map has been changed.

Yep. It is one year free for cable TV subscribers (other than the Basic tier or TV Essentials product), and three months free for internet-only subscribers. The offer expires December 7. https://www.peacocktv.com/spectrum https://www.spectrum.com/packages/peacock-premium-trial Here is the fine print: https://www.peacocktv.com/spectrumoffer You have to remember to cancel though, and that is through Spectrum (I think).

Hey, no problem! Glad to help the forum. As far as tiers are concerned, there are only two levels: Peacock Plus and Peacock Premium Plus. Peacock Plus, despite its name, is the basic tier. It has all the live sports. With Peacock Premium Plus, you also get ad-free watching, downloading for offline watching, and your local NBC channel. So rest assured: your sister has the necessary tier. https://www.peacocktv.com/plans/all-monthly

So, as we all know, the Bills game at Los Angeles is on Saturday, December 23 exclusively on Peacock. So is the first Wild Card on Saturday, January 13. [This Wild Card is in the early slot and has the least favorable ratings historically. So the small-market and not-so-popular teams often go there, almost always the AFC South champion, if playing in that round. The Bills have also played in that slot three straight years recently, from 2019-21 (vs. Houston, Indy, and New England).] I researched it, and Peacock is no longer offering a free trial. You have to pay for a subscription, but you can cancel at any time. No contracts. Peacock Plus (which is the basic plan and has all the live sports events) costs $5.99 a month, or $59.99 annually (annual option is payment). They are having a Back Friday sale though for $1.99 a month or $19.99 annually. (The student rate for Peacock is also $1.99 a month, year-round, for the first 12 months: https://www.peacocktv.com/student.) I know it's only a small difference, but you may want to buy Peacock on Friday and then have time to set it up and test it. Since the Bills game is on December 23, and Black Friday is November 24, the one-month option should work??? I think?? Or you can continue the subscription through January 13 and the Wild Card. The other (legal) options, as have been mentioned in the past: 1) The Bills game is shown on free, local TV in the Buffalo and Los Angeles primary markets. 2) Go to a sports bar or restaurant, which now are able to show Peacock through Peacock Sports Pass, in partnership with EverPass and UPShow. 3) Some (?) cable/internet and other third-party providers are offering free Peacock Premium: a.) Spectrum: free for three months (Internet-only subscribers) or a year (cable TV subscribers) (offer expires December 7 -- see my post below) : https://www.peacocktv.com/spectrum b.) Xfinity (Comcast): free for two years (offer expires June 25, 2025): https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/peacock-subscription-faqs (thanks to @djp14150 for the Xfinity tip) c.) The following also offer Peacock as well, but I am not sure if it is free or how it works: https://www.peacocktv.com/help/article/cancellation Amazon Apple DIRECTV Satellite DIRECTV Stream Google Play Roku Xfinity Xumo TV (XClass TV) d.) There are probably more options, but I am not in the know. Here is the Black Friday sale info. I think it is going on already, and am not sure how long it will last. At least through Friday though. https://www.peacocktv.com/plans/all-monthly https://www.peacocktv.com/offer/blackfriday Screenshots:

The FOX announcers may be made known Sunday night or Monday, and I will update this then. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Note 1: Doubleheader this week is FOX.] [Note 2: There *is* a MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simlucasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 13, 2023 - December 3, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Thursday, November 30 - 8:15 PM ET: Seattle at Dallas Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts on local free TV in Seattle and Dallas] SNF - NBC Sunday, December 3 - 8:20 PM ET: Kansas City at Green Bay Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, December 4 - 8:15 PM ET: Cincinnati at Jacksonville Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Single: Sunday, December 3 - 1 PM ET and 4:05 PM ET: [Note: The A-team of Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson are off this weekend.] Denver at Houston (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn Arizona at Pittsburgh (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins Indianapolis at Tennessee (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross Los Angeles Chargers at New England (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala Carolina at Tampa Bay (LATE) (6) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feely, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Early Sunday, December 3 - 1 PM ET: Miami at Washington TBD, TBD, TBD Atlanta at New York Jets TBD, TBD, TBD Detroit at New Orleans TBD, TBD, TBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Late Sunday, December 3 - 4:25 PM ET: San Francisco at Philadelphia TBD, TBD, TBD Cleveland at Los Angeles Rams TBD, TBD, TBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: Baltimore, Buffalo, Chicago, Las Vegas, Minnesota, New York Giants ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

UPDATE: FOX Single: Fresno CA: CLE-DEN to LAR-AZ (Wed) Maps has been changed.

Awesome post! I was 12 and at home in the living room. We were listening to Van Miller's call on the radio. Why? Because, as often occurred, the game was blacked out. Lots of great Bills games back then were not aired in the Buffalo area due to this. I had a good feeling before the play because Fergy had also just completed a long pass to Roland Hooks to get us into position. Hooks was on fire.

Nahhhh...both the Eagles and Chiefs are doing well and popular. It's just that the west is naturally more interested in KC. We still get CBS's A-team and have a higher distribution percentage.

Thankfully he's gone now, so Hochuli and his crew won't hold that incident against us.

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 2: There is *no* MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simulcasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] [Note 5: The Black Friday game this week is available free on Amazon to everyone. No subscription is needed.] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=12 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season NFL Week 12, 2023 - November 26, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: Thanksgiving - FOX Thursday, November 23 - 12:30 PM ET: Green Bay at Detroit (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi Thanksgiving - CBS Thursday, November 23 - 4:30 PM ET: Washington at Dallas (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Thanksgiving - NBC Thursday, November 23 - 8:00 PM ET: San Francisco at Seattle Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark Black Friday - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Friday, November 24 - 3:00 PM ET: Miami at New York Jets Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung Free Amazon stream for everyone. No subscription needed. [simulcasts: WFOR (CBS/4) Miami and WNYW (FOX/5) New York] SNF - NBC Sunday, November 19 - 8:20 PM ET: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers Mike Tirico, Jason Garrett, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN Monday, November 20 - 8:15 PM ET: Chicago at Minnesota Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, November 26 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Pittsburgh at Cincinnati (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue: Jacksonville at Houston (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Green: Tampa Bay at Indianapolis (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Amanda Renner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, November 26 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Buffalo at Philadelphia (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Blue: Kansas City at Las Vegas (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Gray (Blackout) [Gray (Blackout)]: Arizona is exercising its right to enforce a blackout in its DMA on CBS. [Home teams have to allow the other network to air a competing game in the same time slot four times a year but can enforce a blackout if that number has been or will be exceeded that season. See the tweet at the end of this post.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single November 26, 2023 - 1:00 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Red New Orleans at Atlanta (2) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Green: New England at New York Giants Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Orange: Carolina at Tennessee (3) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Blue (including Alaska and Hawaii): Cleveland at Denver (LATE) Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Yellow (Yellow): Los Angeles Rams at Arizona (LATE) (6) Chris Myers, Robert Smith, Jen Hale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: None ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ Thanksgiving Early Thursday, November 23 - 5:30 PM GMT: Green Bay at Detroit Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, Sky Mix, Sky Max Thanksgiving Late Thursday, November 23 - 9:30 PM GMT: Washington at Dallas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 1:20 AM GMT: San Francisco at Seattle Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Black Friday Friday, November 24 - 8:00 PM ET: Miami at New York Jets Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event [joined in progress at 10 PM] Sunday Early Game Sunday, November 26 - 6 PM GMT: Jacksonville at Houston Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event [joined in progress at 7 PM] Sunday Late Game Sunday, November 26 - 9:25 PM GMT: Buffalo at Philadelphia Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event SNF Monday, November 27 - 1:20 AM GMT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 1:15 AM GMT: Chicago at Minnesota Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide Thanksgiving Early Friday, November 24 - 4:30 AM AEDT: Green Bay at Detroit ESPN Thanksgiving Late Friday, November 24 - 8:30 AM AEDT: Washington at Dallas ESPN Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 12:20 PM AEDT: San Francisco at Seattle ESPN Black Friday Saturday, November 25 - 7:00 AM AEDT: Miami at New York Jets ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 27 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Jacksonville at Houston 7mate Pittsburgh at Cincinnati ESPN Tampa Bay at Indianapolis ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 27 - 8:25 AM AEDT: Kansas City at Las Vegas 7mate Buffalo at Philadelphia ESPN SNF Monday, November 27 - 12:20 PM AEDT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 12:15 PM AEDT: Chicago at Minnesota ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: Thanksgiving Early Friday, November 24 - 6:30 AM NZDT: Green Bay at Detroit ESPN Thanksgiving Late Friday, November 24 - 10:30 AM NZDT: Washington at Dallas ESPN Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 2:20 PM NZDT: San Francisco at Seattle ESPN Black Friday Saturday, November 25 - 9:00 AM NZDT: Miami at New York Jets ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 27 - 7:00 AM NZDT: Jacksonville at Houston Free stream on NZTV+ Carolina at Tennessee Free stream on NZTV+ Pittsburgh at Cincinnati ESPN Tampa Bay at Indianapolis ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 27 - 10:25 AM NZDT: Kansas City at Las Vegas Free stream on NZTV+ Buffalo at Philadelphia ESPN SNF Monday, November 27 - 2:20 PM NZDT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Chicago at Minnesota ESPN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Minor flex for Week 13 (December 3): https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-13-Flex-Scheduling---Dec.-3-Broncos-Texans-Game-Moves-to-1-p.m.-ET;-Panthers-Buccaneers--to-405-p.m.-ET-on-CBS.aspx CBS Single: Denver at Houston from 4:05 PM ET to 1 PM ET Carolina at Tampa Bay from 1 PM ET to 4:05 PM ET

Strange, you also said yesterday you have a feeling the Bills will beat Philadelphia: [You're also following 666 people on twitter with the "Beast" in your name. Hmmm...probably just coincidence.]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/worst-of-the-week-nfl-officiating-matt-canada-jack-del-rio/ Shaun Hochuli's road cooking in the Browns-Steelers game. "The Cleveland Browns must have been wondering what they walked into when they played the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday at their own Cleveland Browns Stadium, because referee Shawn Hochuli and his crew had some serious road cooking in the Steelers’ favor. With 10:28 left in the first quarter, Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett was sacked by Browns edge terror Myles Garrett. The box score will tell you that Pickett was down at his own one-yard line, but it certainly looked as if Pickett was sacked in the end zone for a safety, and two points for the Browns. CBS Sports rules analyst and former NFL referee Gene Steratore agreed." "Sadly, this was not the inly [sic] instance in which Stefanski’s team would have legitimate issues with Hochuli and his crew."

NFL Capsules Week 12: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 12 Capsules.pdf [scroll 7/8 of way down] Shawn Hochuli - 6th season as referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 83 Shawn Hochuli 10 n/a Claremont Financial Advisor U 77 Terry Killens 5 same Penn State Campus Security Manager and former NFL Player DJ 106 Patrick Holt 5 same North Carolina State IT Manager LJ 47 Tim Podraza 16 Torbert Nebraska Business Performance Consultant FJ 72 Jason Ledet Rookie n/a [unknown] [unkown] SJ 125 Chad Hill 6 same Mississippi Medical Sales BJ 39 Rich Martinez 10 same Canisius Sales Manager RO n/a Tyler Cerimeli 6 same Arizona State High School Officials Coordinator RA n/a Mark Bitar 4 same Seton Hall [unknown] Terry Killens was a LB for Tennessee, San Francsico, and Seattle from 1996 to 2002: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KillTe20.htm [Speaking of Canisius in the table above, 20 years ago some news reporter in Pennsylvania, where I was living at the time, pronounced it [Can-ni-Si-us] and I almost died.] https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/tom-bradys-penalty-explained-by-ref-got-in-my-face/ Why ‘aggressive’ Tom Brady got first career unsportsmanlike conduct penalty "Tom Brady unleashed on referee Shawn Hochuli in Sunday’s divisional round of the playoffs that saw the reigning Super Bowl champion Buccaneers fall to the Rams. “He got in my face in an aggressive manner and used abusive language,” Hochuli said after the game, explaining his decision to penalize Brady. Brady screamed at Hochuli after taking a hit from Los Angeles linebacker Von Miller, which left him with a bloody lip. The quarterback was frustrated that there was no roughing the passer called on the play, and instead received a penalty — marking his first unsportsmanlike conduct call against him in his 22-year career." https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-shawn-hochuli-facemask-penalty/ "NFL Ref Shawn Hochuli Gets Blasted By Fans For Incorrectly Calling Phantom Facemask Penalty On Titans" "During Thursday night’s Titans-Niners game, Hochuli called a facemask penalty on Tennessee despite the fact that the Titans player obviously missed the facemask and held on to a shoulder pad while trying to make a tackle." https://www.footballzebras.com/2018/12/buffalo-bills-player-jerry-hughes-accosts-officials-after-week-13-game/ Bills DE Jerry Hughes accosts officials in tunnel after game "At the conclusion of the Dolphins-Bills Week 13 game, Jerry Hughes of the Bills ran off the field and up the tunnel to confront Shawn Hochuli’s crew. Video was captured by Spectrum News reporter Jon Scott. It appears that Hughes is in a verbal altercation with one official, but with the video angle, we cannot accurately report who he’s going after. Our best guess is that it is umpire Roy Ellison. Notably, Ellison was suspended in 2013 for using derogatory language towards a player on the field who was yelling objectionable racial slang. What we do see is field judge Tom Hill (foreground) and side judge Chad Hill (number 125, no relation) separating Hughes and the official. It is very rare for players and officials to meet in the tunnel under the stadium. Hughes had to make a special trip to find the officials. The potentially disturbing aspect of this video is Hughes apparently accusing an official of calling him a “B word.” The NFL will take statements from Shawn Hochuli and the official involved, and will get Hughes’ side of the story. We have word that the league is looking into the situation now. https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/nfl-referee-shawn-hochuli-has-hot-mic-moment-during-chiefs-jaguars/ NFL referee Shawn Hochuli has hot-mic moment during Chiefs’ win over Jaguars "Shawn Hochuli needed the fans at Arrowhead Stadium to start using their inside voices. As he readied himself to announce a penalty during the second quarter of Saturday’s Chiefs-Jaguars Divisional Round game, Hochuli turned his mic on a second too early. “Everybody shut up,” Hochuli was heard saying, before calling roughing the passer against the Jaguars’ Arden Key. With the Chiefs on their way to a fifth consecutive AFC title game, as they beat Jacksonville 27-20 behind a hobbled Patrick Mahomes, you could forgive the crowd for not complying."