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6 minutes ago, 17years&waiting said:
If you believe that McDermott truly doesn't believe in passing, then why move on from Tyrod for Allen? Tyrod was literally the perfect quarterback for your version of McD -- play it safe, turnover adverse, etc. Yet, in less than half a season, McD benched Tyrod and then after that season replaced him with Allen.
I didn't say McD didn't believe in the forward pass. I said that McD is unable to fully grasp & exploit the power of a modern NFL passing attack in the way that an offensive minded coach can. And I believe that McD wanted Allen to be Tyrod on steroids. Allen was a strong armed project that very few saw as morphing into the most effective dual threat QB in NFL history.
IMO Allen has not tuned into the QB that McD really wanted.
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8 hours ago, ngbills said:
People do realize Brady was at LSU one year right? Note even a full year. With possibly one of the most talented football rosters in college football history. I would not place too much weight on connecting LSU and Brady. Brady was well like and an enthusiastic coach that got his players to play. But that was not his offense at LSU.
I follow LSU football closely and this is not correct. Brady was recruited by LSU to install and run an NFL passing attack. My understanding is that he had been a quality control manager for Sean Payton and the Saints who loaned him out to LSU to do a seminar on building an effective passing game. The Tigers were so impressed they offered him a job. Ed Orgeron (LSU head coach) and the LSU OC recognized they had elite NFL talent in the passing game but worried they didn't have the expertise to fully exploit it.
Brady installed that fearsome LSU passing attack and called all the pass plays on game day. He sat next to the OC in the booth who called the running plays. Brady's impact on that team was enormous and was the reason they won the national title in dominating fashion. It was the most lethal passing attack ever seen in the history of college football.
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9 hours ago, Beast said:
By top priority I mean a first or second round pick.
Glancing over the numbers from when Brady took over, there was obviously more of an emphasis to run the ball (to include letting Allen take off) and using the running backs and tight ends more. I didn’t gather Shakir’s, Kincaid’s or Cook’s receiving stats but, from memory, they seemed to be used a lot more.
What I did do was focus on Diggs/Davis and this is what both looked like before and after Brady took over
Diggs before per game:
7.3 catches, 86.8 yards, 10.2 targets, 0.7 TD
After:
4.8 catches, 45.0 yards, 8.2 targets, 0.1 TD
Davis before:
3.3 catches, 49.0 yards, 5.5 targets, 0.5 TD
After:
1.7 catches, 36.5 yards, 3.7 targets 0.3 TD’s
Now, take it as you may, I think the above clearly shows a bit of a change in philosophy and is that coming from Brady or is that what McDermott wants to see? That is quite a change under Brady and makes me believe that is Brady if kept, how much of a priority is wide receiver going to be when it appears the Bills actually went quite a bit away from their top two receivers, as well as needing help along the d-line and probably in the defensive backfield. I’m sure they will select a wide receiver….but at the top of their draft? I’m no longer so sure. (And trying to predict the draft is hard enough for so many reasons)
And it worries me a bit that things will remain status quo heading into 2024.
I guess we will see in the coming months.
The offense you saw Brady run was an admission on his part of the weakness of the Bills WR room.
I am confident that with the right WR's Brady will be a brilliant OC. I watched every LSU game the year they won the National Championship with Burrow, Chase & Jefferson. Go back and watch some of those games and you will feel much more confident that if the Bills sign a stud WR in FA or use a 1st round pick to take a top flight guy in the draft Brady will know how to get the most out of him. Brady was in charge of the LSU passing game that year.
In fact I would go so far as to say that if Brady doesn't get assurances from McD/Bean that they're bringing in a top level WR talent either in FA or the draft he will be very tempted t leave Buffalo for another OC job.
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4 minutes ago, RiotAct said:
dude single-handedly saved our season!
Which may have been a Pyrrhic victory. A case of winning a battle but losing a war.
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1 minute ago, Cray51 said:
I know Dunne used a lot of interviews for his other article, but that last paragraph is funny when McD literally said he believes passing is the key to an effective offense…. He just wants to prove a point.
Beane and Diggs addressed the offensive line this year, and made Allen the most protected qb in the league. Drafted Kincaid. I understand Davis wasn’t what he wanted him to be, but Dunne is trying to push opinion very heavily. And, to use the drought as a way to make a statement that denounces our ability to understand the nuance between the drought years and now is just offensive.
i still think he is a hack
McD said he believes passing is key and I don't believe a word of it. I would love to hear what DaBoll & Dorsey have to say about that.
The O line improved primarily because Brown got better and the Bills got rid of the worst guard in the NFL (Saffold). A guard that Bean and company thought would be enough in 2022. And I'm not convinced that without Allen's unique ability to escape pressure the O line would have looked so good.
People can hate on Dunne all they want, I am not familiar with his work beyond this latest stuff. But IMO he is speaking the truth and saying what needs to be said. I live in Cincinnati where for years some fans kept saying they had to move beyond Marvin Lewis. But Lewis had raised the Bengals from the pit of despair to being a perennial playoff team. That they didn't win any playoff games didn't seem to phase the Lewis supporters who demonized Bengal fans who wanted him gone. The ONLY difference I see between Lewis ad McD is that McD has a much better QB so he actually wins some playoff games.
If we stick with McD the farthest the Bills will advance is the Divisional Playoff Round.
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I'm glad Dunne is rocking the boat again. I hope Pegula is reading every word that this man is saying. I don't know about the rest of you but it seems to me McD is jockeying to spend more draft capitol on the D not the O. How will you Dunne critics like it if we take a safety in round 1 and not a WR? Or that we spend more FA on the D line and not sign a top end WR in FA?
I listened to McD & Bean's press conference and I have concerns. They said some of the right things but I didn't hear conviction in what they were saying.
The bottom line is that the Bills are wasting the talents of a uniquely gifted QB with their current coaching and personnel situation. If you want more of the same then curse Dunne and cheer McD. But 3 straight losses in the Divisional playoff round have changed my mind about everything. And I welcome Dunne playing the role of the squeaking wheel here. It's long overdue.
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More wise observations:
So, it’s decision time. Buffalo must decide which individual they should orbit around. That will guide both draft decisions and X ‘n O philosophy. Obviously replacing McDermott with a new coach could help maximize Josh Allen before it’s too late, but Pegula didn’t do that after a fifth straight playoff loss.
Allen could speak up. He won’t rock the boat.
That leaves one person to look in the mirror and change if the Bills are ever going to win a Super Bowl. The head coach.
He’s right. He needs to go for it.
That means unleashing his best player in full.
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11 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
Never read anything related to Tyler Dunne
Then you're missing out on a man telling the truth here. I get that Dunne has a "rep" but check these out and tell me he's wrong:
Those suffering from Drought Brain — terrified of another dark age — will soon nestle into another blanket of excuses and swiftly demonize any criticism of team, of coach.
None of this happens if the Bills — ownership on down — operate with Allen at forefront of mind. He’s the most important person in the building. He’s the employee with the richest contract in Buffalo sports history. That’s what blew the minds of so many players and coaches I spoke to for The McDermott Problem. Those who’ve been around McDermott every day describe the coach as a simpleton when it comes to this position, as if he never understood that Allen was the No. 1 reason this team is a Super Bowl contender.
As I write this column, McDermott is holding his season-ending press conference. He says the biggest reason for their turnaround was cutting down turnovers. Let’s hope he doesn’t try to neuter Allen’s arm this offseason after taking aim at his legs last offseason
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35 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
When is Allen going to perform in the regular season to get a first round bye? I'm not a huge fan of Mcdemott, but if it wasn't for him and the D, this team doesn't even make the playoffs. More games were won by the defense this year, than Allen. This whole boo hoo Allen nonsense is pitiful.
Are you talking about the defense that was so good it allowed 3 teams that were trailing with less then 2 minutes to go in the game to come back and win? And 2 of those teams had horrible offenses and QB's. The most important job a D has is to hold a lead given them by the O in the last 2 minutes of a game.
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On 1/22/2024 at 9:20 AM, billieve420 said:
I am moving up if the right WR is available in the general area where we are going to pick. I would also consider Safety if we stand pat and we don't like any of the WRs in that spot.
If we stand pat and take a safety at 28 then BOTH the 2nd & 3rd round picks better be WR's.
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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:
There were mistakes for sure. But deep balls and fake punts on 4th and 5 aren't plays where there is a high probability of success. The Bass kick was a relative chip shot. People comparing it to Norwood's kick miss the point that Norwood hadn't made a kick that far on grass in a very long time. We are accustomed to 50+ yard kicks being fairly routine nowadays. Back then a 47 yarder was a long kick. It was just clearly out of his range so he over kicked it and just missed. Bass just shanked his misses in these playoffs. He has the yips.
Two of those deep balls were placed directly on the hands of the WR's. Most NFL receivers make those catches. If those balls are caught you could add 10 points (minimum) to the score board.
The Bills offense and Joe Brady worked real hard to set up those deep shots off play action. The continued under performance by the Bills WR group is kneecapping Allen and the offenses ability to hit the big play.
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2 minutes ago, dakrider said:
It's the Bills that are overrated. Every team in the league has at least a couple great players other teams would covet.
But the Bills are simply also-rans. Get to the playoffs, win a wild card round game and then go home. That's great if your this years Green Bay Packers or Houston Texans doing it. But doing it 3 years in a row just shows what a fringe team the Bills are. Whenever this team improves in one area, such as the running game this year, they fall back in another, such as the receiving corps under-performing.We've seen Kansas City rise, also seen Cincinnati rise and get to SB, and Baltimore rising this year. The Bills are just stagnant. This team hasn't grown, they haven't really tapped into their playoff experience and they just don't seem to want it as much as other teams.
Their success the last 3 seasons can be directly tied to the great play of Allen. But ultimately football is a team game and the rest of the roster and coaching matters. A guy like Allen should be the icing on the cake that gets you over the hump. It is football malpractice how Bean & McD are wasting Allen's skills.
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11 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:
I would go 60/40 in favor of the defense. Allen needs some help. No question. But if you look at the game last night, the running game was fine. The game plan on offense was working well enough. There comes a time late in the game that you have to figure out how to stop the other team.. KC was moving the ball to the point that they didn’t need a 3rd down.
If they go 60/40 on defense this off season Allen would be a fool to stay in Buffalo. The good news is that there is NO way Pegula allows Bean/McD that level of insanity. Worst case scenario is it will be 50/50 and business as usual.
11 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:Diggs had a tough night.. plenty of blame to go around though. You want to throw every resource at the offense? I wouldn’t go that far.
I'm not blaming Diggs. But what I am saying is that Diggs may have regressed to the point that he is a solid #2 but no longer a #1 WR. For the Bills not to have a great #1 WR with Allen at QB is football malpractice and must be addressed in the off season.
Sorry but in a Divisional Round playoff game at home this must be caught by your #1 guy:
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
This, all offseason. Thanks McDermott.
No Skip, Allen is not overrated. 58 yards in the air and right on the hands. A huge moment in the game.
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5 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:
Diggs had a tough night.. plenty of blame to go around though. You want to throw every resource at the offense? I wouldn’t go that far.
How about a 60/40 split in favor of the offense with the 1st & 3rd round picks going to the O and at least one big time offensive FA signing?
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Just now, KeLLy1278 said:
You’re right because the defense is fine just the way it is. Thanks for being so correct so clearly, so often.
Not saying the D is fine it isn't though when healthy it's more then good enough. What I am saying is that when you're blessed with a generational talent at QB the only logical thing to do is surround that QB with as much talent as you can even at the expense of the D. The Bills management has failed to do this. If their reaction to yesterday's loss is to double down on making the D better at the expense of the offense then the Bills are doomed to repeating their division round exits from the playoffs.
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I can just see it now: Allen throws the ball to Diggs and he gains 6 yards. On 3rd and 3 Allen plows ahead for 5 yards. Chiefs call TO. Then a run to Cook for minus 2 and Chiefs call their last TO. Allen then hits Kincaid at the 4 yard line for a FIRST DOWN and goal. Then the Bills run out the clock but KC has a great goal line stand and we kick the FG and the game goes to OT where the Chiefs score a TD while we score a FG.
Then on 2BD some Allen hating poster will link to a video showing how Allen passed up a TD throw to Shakir to check it down to Diggs. You know this would happen.
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3 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:
The Front office needs to ask themselves one question. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM’S DEFENSE SO WE CAN SLOW DOWN KC. PERIOD & END OF STORY.
If this is what the front office is asking and doing the Bills will never sniff a Super Bowl and will have wasted the career of one of the most gifted QB's in NFL history. Honestly if Bean/McD goes this route then Allen needs to pack his bags and get out of town. This kind of move by McD/Bean would make me reconsider my fandom.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Why do you think the Bills should have won? The strategy seemed pretty sound given our injuries and the opponent to make the game as short as possible. We went into the half with the lead and with less than two minutes on the clock we had a chance to go up 4 and the players didn't execute.
I never wanted McDermott hired int he first place and will be glad to see him canned, but what exactly did you want him to do that he didn't do yesterday? Our team was outclassed in every phase and still had a chance to win. I give him credit for that.The strategy relied on Allen and Brady having perfect games and that is not realistic. Did you watch the 4th quarter of the Lions/Bucs game? The Lions D was struggling to stop the Bucs so Detroit decided that they would press more aggressively on offense to outscore TB. I was stunned to see the Lions throwing and running a hurry up O with a 1 TD 4th quarter lead over TB. It worked and was the correct strategic call.
In contrast McD placed a governor on Allen, Brady and the O and asked them to not only out score KC but run out the clock as well. This was inane IMO. The 2nd half strategy should have been to score as much as possible and ignore whether it was one play of ten play drives.
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21 hours ago, HappyDays said:
It really is insane. He was affordable (if we handled our FA right), he wanted to be here, we openly flirted with him, he was an obvious fit for Allen's skill set, and he filled a need. What in the hell happened that led Beane to pass on the most obvious signing of the millennium? I sincerely believe it was a season-altering mistake and I just can't begin to understand why.
Bean failed to close the deal on McCafrey last season and D Hop this season. IMO that is a major reason why we didn't advance past the divisional round both seasons. Bean has done okay with the D in free agency but outside of Diggs & Morse where has he shined with he Offense in FA?
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22 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:
Whatever it doesn't even matter right now.
It matters because the bleeding by the front office must stop. Bean must exert his authority and work to surround Allen with the best possible talent available. Did you hear McD after the game admit that the Defense lost the game? IMO this is so he can lobby Pegula for emphasizing the D in the off season. Bean needs to stand up and say HELL NO we're focusing on upgrading WR & RB in the draft & and FA.
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6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
Agreed. But why so much heat on Josh (not from you) for not making the throw yet little heat on Dawkins for allowing the pressure to happen? It's as though Josh gets all the criticism and everyone else on offense almost gets a pass. It feels like 2&9 has been mentioned more on here post match than the Diggs and Sherfield drops, for example. Or the missed FG.
It's a great mystery to me.
As an aside, take a look at the thread that links to a wonderfully written article by a Chicago Bears fan who defends Allen and the Bills from the wretched hater Nick Wright. He addresses the unique depth and perversion of the Allen hatred. It is real and you see it on 2BT from time to time. This is a must read.
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For the record here are Allen's combined stats for the regular season and playoffs. This represents 19 games worth of work:
Passing: 4695 yards; 33 TD's; 18 INT's
Rushing: 670 yards; 18 TD's; 3 lost fumbles
Totals: 5365 yards; 51 TD's; 21 TO's.
This level of production is remarkable given the talent surrounding him.
As for results: 11 - 6 record; Division Title; Playoff berth; 1 - 1 record in the playoffs; 12 - 7 overall record. Pretty solid to IMO.
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3 hours ago, UKBillFan said:
Edit - Or even blame Dawkins.Here's the thing. I don't blame Dawkins at all. He got beat on that one play. It happens. When I and others call out that Dawkins got pushed back into Allen impacting the throw we're stating a fact as an explanation for why Allen missed the throw. Dawkins had a fantastic season. No one should judge him by one play because no one in he NFL is prefect on every play.
Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
in The Stadium Wall
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One more time. I lived through this down here in Cincinnati with Marvin Lewis. The difference was that while I supported the Bengals they were my #2 team behind the Bills. Now I'm seeing history repeat itself with McD. And it's almost an exact replication of the Lewis saga down here. The only difference is where Lewis was 0 - 7 in the playoffs McD is 5 - 6. But McD has a much better QB then Lewis had.
So sorry if after 3 straight years of losing in the Divisional Playoff round I'm throwing up my hand and saying if you don't move on from McD now you will have another 3 or 4 years of early playoff exits.