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6 hours ago, HappyDays said:
He also makes multiple plays a game that only a handful of QBs in NFL history could make. His presence on the field helps Henry more than Henry helps Lamar.
Trust me I believe Allen deserves to be the MVP but I hate that the conversation always devolves to bringing the other candidates down. Lamar has been excellent this season. It is an MVP type season, it just happens to be simultaneous with a slightly better MVP season from Allen.
I think it's fair to say that Jackson & Henry lift each other up.
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17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Disgusting.Unfortunately this piece of garbage is typical of the morons that pass themselves off as NFL "expert" talking heads. It's poorly researched contradicting what Allen just said while at the same time slandering who Allen is as a QB.
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On 12/25/2024 at 9:31 AM, PromoTheRobot said:
Winningest QB in his first 7 seasons.
With the Week 16 victory, Allen became the winningest quarterback through his first seven seasons in NFL history.
According to StatMuse, Allen has an all-time record of 75-34. Allen joins Russell Wilson and Daryle Lamonica at the top of the list.
So this morning I'm listening to ESPN radio's take on yesterday's game and the real smart "expert" NFL hosts are drooling all over Jackson and his remarkable 69 - 24 regular season record! On and on they went and they said that only Mahomes can boast about that sort of regular season record. The talk show lady "expert" threw out Josh Allen & Joe Burrow as examples of Jackson's peers who haven't come close to Jackson's regular season numbers. And all I could think of was this post.
And remember folks these are the type of people voting for the MVP.
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1 hour ago, Eastport bills said:
CJ was a one year illusion that crashed and burned after defensive coordinators watched him on film. All of a sudden he’s not accurate, takes bad sacks and is so emotionally ill equipped to be an NFL QB, that he’s not capable of winning against good teams.
To be fair Stroud may be the most disappointing QB this season. Sure folks had dreams of Rogers playing like an MVP but after a mediocre last year in GB, missing the next season with a nasty injury, and being over 40 didn't make it likely Rogers would return to form. But there was no reason to think that Stroud wasn't going to get even better.
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Tired of the MVP talk - there are enough uncertainties in a season to worry about. Why add in another one controlled by sports journalist morons and NFL "experts"?
I would love to see Allen get it but would much rather see success in the playoffs. Oftentimes saying "I told you so" is more satisfying then enjoying the original success.
So this is my last comment on the process. According to the odds for MVP:
Allen
Jackson
Barkley
Goff
Burrow
Are the top 5.
In the last 4 weeks Allen & Jackson solidified their hold at the top with impressive performances against Division leading opponents on national TV. For Allen, the key skill players in the games were Cook (105 rushing yards vs Rams) & Johnson (114 receiving yards vs Lions). Jackson's leading skill player was King Henry with 162 & 147 yards rushing respectively.
BTW, King Henry should be a top 5 MVP candidate with 1783 yards rushing (his 2nd best season ever). The simple fact is that by any objective standard Jackson is partnering with a top 5 MVP level skill player while Allen is not. And this is why I would give Allen the MVP.
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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Allen’s going to win the MVP but don’t make up BS hypotheticals. Jackson’s record is 68-24 and the Ravens record is 6-10 in non Lamar starts.
I know this is impossible here but you don’t have to put down Lamar (who has gotten better every year) to prop up Josh (who has also gotten better every year). They are both awesome in their own rights.
I wasn't pulling down Jackson here. I was simply pointing out that if Jackson had gone down in the preseason the Ravens with one of the best RB's in the NFL could have gotten by. After all Tennessee was a regular playoff participant with Tannyhil thanks in no small part to King Henry. Allen goes down who does the Bills O fall back on?
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Just now, strive_for_five_guy said:
Allen actually does have performance incentives surrounding winning MVP. That said, his easiest path to finishing it off right now is just making sure the Bills get the 2 seed or potentially better still. And I’m sure winning the SB would trump any bonus of winning regular season MVP aware.He would trade those incentives in a nanosecond to win a Super Bowl.
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This should settle it between Allen & Jackson:
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21 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
The foundational question the writers need to ask themselves is are they comfortable giving Lamar 3 MVPs in this era and Allen zero....
To me that's absurd, but maybe ppl feel differently. That doesn't make any sense in any universe.
An even more fundamental question these people need to ask themselves is what would Baltimore's record be if Jackson didn't play this year? Then compare that record to what the Bills record would be if Allen didn't play this season. That would decide things real quick IMO.
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11 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:
I'm beginning to hate this MVP talk. It's enough t to worry about the playoffs and SB. Yeah I'd love it for Josh but worrying about dropped passes and stats is just too much sometimes.
Rest assured that Allen doesn't give a crap about this stuff. What he really wants is a Super Bowl win and an MVP performance in that game and the playoffs getting there.
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Just now, finn said:
That said, I was never really concerned about this game. I sensed the offense could always yawn, shake itself, and put up 20 points whenever it chose to.
And that's basically how it went until the refs inserted themselves into the game in the 4th quarter on both sides of the ball. First they called a bogus holding penalty wiping out a 12 yard run to inside the Pats 30 yard line on what was shaping up t b the game clinching TD drive and then seemed to be working overtime to get the Pats that last TD late in the 4th.
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Just now, Orlando Buffalo said:
This is the first game all year I thought Shakir played poorly, I am really hoping he is not the kind of guy who faded in the cold.
He played well last season in a couple of cold games late. I'm thinking those that said there was a cold/flu going through the team may have it right. Or Shakir after paying so well this season simply had an off game.
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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data
How about the NFL.com and ESPN? PFR is wrong here, plain & simple.
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1 minute ago, finn said:
Don't let special teams off the hook. It seems that every game, the net contribution of Smiley's game is negative. This time, they allowed a tone-setting big kickoff return to start the game and were caught sleeping on the fake punt. Makes me nostalgic for Levy's teams.
And like the O & D the ST also did some good stuff like a couple of punts to the 10 and a very important 50 yard FG to give Buffalo the lead for good.
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Here are the last 3 home games played against the Jets - all in December/January:
2021: 27 - 10
2022: 20 - 12
2023: 32 - 6
Earlier in those seasons the Bills lost 20 - 17 (2021); 22 - 16 (2022) and won a close one 23 - 20 this season.
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4 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:
Depending on how Wednesday plays out, the Bills could have a lot to play for. Jets have absolutely nothing to play for so if the Bills come out sharp, high possibility the Jets fold. Jets like NE, have nothing remaining to play for but pride and draft position, so they’ll be loose and aggressive.
Actually I think NE had a lot to play for yesterday. They wanted to Keep their coach and were fighting to save his job. Maye's comments after the game were very revealing along those lines. Kind of like what we saw out of Dallas later that night - a much more inspired effort then anyone thought was possible. Beating the Bills in Buffalo when they're the talk of the league would have gone a long way towards saving Mayo's job.
In contrast I'm not convinced that the Jet's will have a similar motivation to save their interim coach and Aaron Rogers jobs. I suspect we'll see a game from the Jets more like the one we all expected but didn't get from the Pats.
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I thought Maye was very impressive and IMO the Pats will be the Bills biggest challenge in the AFC East over the next 5 years.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:
who said he's playing like a world beater? No one. But the film doesn't lie. He is drawing double coverages throughout the game. You can watch the ALL-22 to see that OR search for content online. It's definitely out there.
Cooper drew Gonzallas (sp) who may be the best CB not on most peoples radar.
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Lets wait until the end of the season. I mean the Bills still have a decent chance to get to and win a Super Bowl.
As an aside, McD does seem to be in the process of changing his coaching philosophy. His challenge in making the necessary changes is not to throw the baby away with the bath water.
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30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches
Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).
Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches.
According to Stat Muse and ESPN Allen has only lost TWO fumbles giving him a total of 8 TO's.
While Jackson is aggressive and puts the ball in danger to make big plays Herbert is way to conservative and I pay little attention to the value of his having only 5 TO's. The Chargers have lost 6 games this season and Herbert has lost the only playoff game he was in. IMO he is more concerned about throwing INT's then winning football games.
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6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
The pats dbs were legitimately 10 times better than the lions or rams’ idk why people think this is weather lol Gonzalez is a known good player at this point but Jonathan jones played out of his mind
worse weather probably would’ve helped us more 😂. It would’ve likely took a few of those perfect throws maye dropped in away and we were running the ball even better than they were
I also think the NE players were playing hard for their coach. Mayes comments after the game indicated that this is a sore sot for the players and they gave it their best effort. I doubt we see the same level of intensity from the Jets in support of their interim coach and Rogers.
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2 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Not sure how many times this has happened before in NFL history, I am sure it has happened but also pretty sure it's rare...
Nobody on the offense outside of Allen has a turnover this year, meaning we have no lost fumbles on the year other than Allen's two...one versus the Cards in the first game and one against Baltimore on that crazy trick play that never should have been called.
Almost had two yesterday but we managed to recover both...
Thought it is really interesting considering you watch players fumble all the time in other games but the Bills have not done so yet...
And only having 8 TO's for as many times as Allen puts the ball in play is flat out extraordinary. It's the #1 reason the Bills are 12 -3 and close to locking up at minimum a #2 seed.
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14 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said:
Houston wins vs ravens and Steelers lose wouldn’t they go to the three seed? Not a huge deal but still matters for seeding and matchups
If the Steelers & Ravens both lose Wednesday the Bills clinch a 2nd seed no matter what happens against the Jets & Pats.
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Just now, UKBillFan said:
Haven't most of us been saying that about the Chiefs since the start of the season?
Yes it has and even the most hardcore Chief hater on 2BD has to grudgingly admit that at 14 - 1 it has worked for them. Style points in the regular season are not that important - seeding and staying healthy are far more critical.
MVP hype for Allen
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The only "lack of awareness" I see on this board is your post here. You're on a Bills message board complaining that Bills Fans are mean to other QB's. Talk about BLIND.