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14 hours ago, Man with No Name said:
the 2nd and 9 play to shakir was the right call. he was open. the first down run was not the correct call.
The first down run was the desire to bleed clock and illustrated everything wrong abut McD's approach to the offense yesterday. And yes I believe that McD instructed Brady as to how he wanted the offense to compliment his defense in the game. But at some point and with the chance to take a 4 point lead with about 2 minutes remaining you must aggressively go after the TD.
As others have pointed out this is the NFL playoffs and you can't just assume that you will score the TD with 10 seconds left on the clock. I believe the only time we threw the ball downfield on first down in the second half was when Diggs dropped that perfectly thrown 60 yard bomb. The play action worked great there and I have to believe that Brady wanted to exploit the KC issues at Safety with more aggressive play action passes on first down.
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1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said:
Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career.*
* according to a google search I just did. That's truly phenomenal and shows what an absolute beast he is in the postseason.. unfortunately the only stat that really matters isn't so good. It's mind boggling that he's put up these numbers and has only played in one championship game and zero Super Bowls
A clear indictment of McD IMO.
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26 minutes ago, Success said:
Allen carries this team all the time. All the time.
He gets a couple of mulligans.
Mahomes missed two open Chiefs receivers in the end zone for TD's and I don't hear Chiefs fans complaining this morning. The expectations that some posters have about Allen is bat feces insane and doesn't reflect the real world of NFL football.
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5 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
I laid out a specific plan in a thread a month and a half ago.
Basically, if you can't get a good enough haul for him, you keep him. If you could, for example, trade him to chicago for all their firsts this year and next, you'd reset the cap clock for the QB position, thereby making it easier to rid ourselves of dead weight like Miller, Knox and White, and you'd have ample high picks to restock the cabinet in a hurry.
So what good is resetting the CAP clock if your "can't miss" rookie QB is a miss? I mean just over the last 20 years or so we've had the following high draft pick QB's completely bust or never live up to their POTENTIAL: Mayfield, Tua, Vick, Winston, Murray, Bradford, Lynch, Rosen, Wilson, Darnold, Russel, David Carr & Trey Lance. And I'm sure I missed a few. Hell, even the can't miss Trevor Lawrence has been underwhelming.
Again if the Bills made the trade you're suggesting, and thankfully they're not that dumb, the Bears would be a better team then Buffalo the very first season Allen was there. And over the next 5 years while the Bills new CAP friendly "can't miss" QB struggled the Bears would be lugging a SB trophy down the Magnificent Mile.
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3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
The counterpoint here is that JA and a couple other QBs in the league (Stroud is one) do not have to "step into" their throws all the time (within reason/obviously can't arm only throw a 60 yarder) to make a good throw. So bottom line is that you're making an excuse for JA.
So another poster who expects perfect throws on every play. I can state with complete certainty that when their offensive tackles are being pushed into their legs and they can't step into their throws even the best NFL QB's, including Stroud, will often miss that throw. BTW wasn't that throw over 40 yards? And for the record Allen has made that throw many times, probably more then any other QB in the NFL. But he's not going to make it every time.
And for the record I was explaining why Allen wasn't able to make that throw which was the right read. If you want to call that an excuse have at it.
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Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Only want that to happen under a VERY limited set of circumstances that includes acquiring chicago's firsts this year and next.
Other than that, no.
Wow you're serious. I was being tongue & cheek. But hey thanks for the honesty. IF the Bills swapped Allen to Chicago for this years first and next years first I would bet you my house that the Bears would win a Super Bowl before the Bills. Allen would elevate the Bears into the playoffs his first year there spoiling that 2nd 1st round pick we got.
BTW I watch a lot of college football and this years QB crop is good with a lot of POTENTIAL but the idea that any of them would replicate what Allen has ACHIEVED is far fetched. Remember Lawrence was a can't miss #1 QB to.
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4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
And the dirty little thing that no one wants to talk about here is that our "MVP" QB cost us dearly in at least TWO of those games (Jets and Patriots)
So you're going there even after last nights performance by Allen? Well two can play the stupid game of coulda/woulda/shoulda and point out that our MVP QB left the Bills with the lead in 3 games with less then 2 minutes left on the clock only to see the D blow the leads.
But hey you might get your wish and be rid of Allen Pine Barrens Mafia. A friend of mine is worried, and rightfully so, that after yesterday McD & Bean are going to go to Pegula and make the case that the Bills have to spend even more draft & FA capitol on strengthening the D. I fervently hope this doesn't happen but if it does I wouldn't blame Allen if he started the process of getting out of Buffalo.
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4 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:
Well, I mean when your defense is depleted like that it's eventually going to happen. Especially a QB like PM will take full advantage of that
The defensive line was not depleted and is where a big chunk of the Bills FA money & draft capital has gone over the last few years. A dominating performance by the D line last night would have done more to protect McD's depleted LB group then putting a governor on the offense and expecting them to outscore KC while simultaneously running out the clock.
We can all ignore the obvious. I sure as hell have over the last few seasons but no more. The bills suffer from significant tactical & strategic deficiency's in how they structure their roster and game plans. And until they fix this we are not advancing past the divisional round of the playoffs.
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10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
that is an impossible threshold for success imo
against one of if not the best defense in the league a clean game where we played a clean game and held the ball about as long as humanly possible...it just makes the margin for victory impossibly thin if we also need to have the ball last
Great point. McD was asking Allen & Brady to not only score more points then KC but to do so in the most difficult and challenging way possible by chewing up clock and plays. It's one thing to ask your offense to do this ONCE per game but through almost the entire game - madness. The Bills 5 scoring/missed FG drives were all over 10 plays (11, 12, 14, 15 & 16).
When you step back and think about it what was being asked of Allen & Brady was INSANE. That the two almost pulled it off is a credit to their exceptional performances last night. The Bills at the end of the first half and at the end of the game, while they were TRAILING on the score board, were trying to run out the clock AND score the go ahead/winning TD! Think about that for a minute.
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38 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:
Agreed! I don't get it either, so frustrating seeing WR's running across wide open that easily would have been a 1st down and for whatever reason Josh didn't take it smh
Diggs was running his pattern right to left which is where the DE was pushing Dawkins into Allen so I'm not sure he saw how open Diggs was on that play for a 5 yard gain. The shot to the end zone was the right read by Allen. He came up short because he couldn't plant his foot as Dawkins was being pushed into him. Were talking about half a second between missing that throw and getting the TD.
Frankly, the play by play analysis of Allen and the expectation that he plays perfectly on every play is bizarre. No where else in the NFL is this expected. Allen is very good but he can not be perfect every play.
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10 hours ago, PepeSilvia said:
This game is a cataclysm of the last 6 years into one game.
the highs, the lows, the still not being able to cover Travis Kelce, the still letting mahommes pirouette around and get a big first down or finding someone open downfield.
Tyler bass didn’t lose this game. From the first snap mistakes were made from Diggs fumbling. To the last drive with Diggs dropping a huge pass, Josh fumbling with 5 mins left and then missing Shakir in the back of the end zone.
this is another game of missed opportunities. Blame who you want. There’s plenty to go around
I disagree. The losses have had a common theme starting with the Houston playoff game: Poor defensive play either throughout the game (yesterday, Bengals playoff loss & the 2020 AFC championship game) or at critical times in the game (13 seconds game, Houston game). Don't forget we were lucky to beat Indy in 2020 after the D gave up two 4th quarter TD's in a game Buffalo led 24 - 10 early in the 4th.
So yes there is a pattern here that can be laid at the feet of the coach, GM and the defense. I include the GM because even though the Bills have one of the top 3 QB's in the NFL they have not addressed glaring weaknesses on offense and have not worked to surround Allen with the best possible weapons.
9 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:I blame McD for trading Mahomes to KC…Even if we were to fire our HC, that one mistake would still haunt us until the end of Josh’s career…
Yea and then Andy Reid drafts Allen a year later and we're exactly in the same boat as we are today.
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I think that if we can sign or draft the right guy to be our #1 Diggs might actually see a resurgence in his play. Given the CAP situation others have pointed out it doesn't matter if we would be overpaying Diggs as a solid #2. That ship has sailed and we'll be paying Diggs regardless. But I do see a scenario where Diggs still has a positive impact on the WR room.
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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:
In all fariness, there are not a lot of teams recently that can point to their D being the difference in playoff games with the way the NFL is designed these days. It favors the offense pretty heavily. See the Chiefs - Eagles Super Bowl last year.
True but then many of those teams select offensive minded coaches and focus the lions share of their franchises resources on the offense. It doesn't always work out because no matter how smart the offensive minded coach is or how much they send on the O if they don't have the QB there are limits to how far they can go. But the Bills have the QB and IMO are now wasting his best years.
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Just now, Big Turk said:
Just not true.
Beat Baltimore 17-3.
Beat Pats 47-17.
Beat Steelers 31-17.
I thought all those were pretty good performances defensively. Steelers literally only made it close because the Bills fielded a preseason D for much of the 2nd half.
The only great game the Bills D played that won a game was Baltimore. The offense rolled over NE taking all the pressure off the D. When the Steelers were sneaking back into the game in the 2nd half it was the offense which shut the door with a long TD drive.
The Bills have a Defensive minded head coach and a GM that has built a defensive focused roster that in the last 10 playoff games can point to only one game where the D was outstanding and was a difference maker.
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19 minutes ago, Simon said:
Yeah I though they got a little too aggressive coming out of the 2:00 warning.
It's better than turtling, but they could have managed it better while still staying proactive.
Again we have to figure mental and physical exhaustion into this. The offense had run 14 plays on that drive before the 2 minute warning. And those included a key 4th down conversion and a couple of 3rd down conversions. From Brady to Allen (who take a wicked hit earlier in the drive) to the O linemen I get why they may have fizzled coming out of the break.
This makes me even madder at the D. They faced only 47 plays and 23 minutes of TOP yet they couldn't win many battles between the D line and the Chiefs O line.
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Just now, BeastMaster said:
Asking Josh to play a perfect game is an unfair expectation that he still comes close to achieving, and probably does if Dawkins holds up for another half second.
Instead of criticizing Josh, McDermott needs to be held accountable for his defense folding like origami in the playoffs against these top tier teams with franchise quarterbacks every single playoffs
In the Allen playoff years which is 10 playoff games, McD's Defense played well ONCE. In every other game it played bad the whole game or at key moments that either lost us the game (Houston) or nearly lost the game (Indy - remember the Bills had a 24 - 10 4th quarter lead and almost lost).
Given that McD is a defensive coach and Bean has fashioned D heavy roster this is unacceptable. The Bills are wasting the prime years of Allen's career. If they don't see it you have to wonder if that organization is worth our hard earned money and time.
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9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Love Josh, but I’m not sure what we were trying to do on that last possession. We had them where we wanted , time running down and not much they could do about it. The play sequence at that point was strange. Allen should have been running and forced KC to think about burning time outs. Josh missed a wide open Shakir in the middle of the EZ. He came up short when it mattered most. This one stings - a lot .
How many plays were run on that last drive BEFORE the final two passes? FOURTEEN! In the Bills 5 scoring/missed FG drives they ran 14, 11, 12, 15 & 16 plays. It's amazing that the Bills didn't have a TO or a couple of big penalties or a sack. In total the Bills ran 78 plays to the Chiefs 47.
And it was 2nd & 9 not 1st and 10 so we had to be more aggressive if we were trying to score a TD and not a FG there. And for the record Allen could not step into that throw because the left tackle was pushed into him as he let it lose.
We should have used more play action throws on 1st down but of course the offense was working diligently on protecting McD's Defense. On the one play action pass in the 4th quarter Allen threw a great deep ball that Diggs dropped.
Again Allen plays out of his mind yet we think if we could just squeeze a little bit more magic out of the guy we can win games like this. IMO that is insane and condemns the Bills to making the same mistakes over and over and over again.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
This was the weakest version of the Chiefs that we will probably ever see under Mahomes.
We got them in our stadium.
We had an all-world Josh Allen performance. Mahomes missed 2 TD passes.
We got lucky with a fumble through the end zone saving the game for us.
And it still wasn't enough to get it done.
I felt all along like it had to be this year that we beat the Chiefs to give fans some kind of confidence that this regime could get over that hump. After today, can we honestly be confident that this regime will ever take us to the promised land?
That means McDermott AND Beane by the way. Defensive coaching in this game was awful. And ultimately poor WR play was once again our biggest issue on offense, after years of under investing in the position.
I don't know man. I can't even find it in me to feel hopeful about next year with the same guys in charge.
There is no reason for you to feel hopeful unless we see the Bills brain trust aggressively work to add more weapons to the O. Pegula will not move on from McD even though some of the top offensive minds in the NFL would love to get a shot at coaching Allen. So our one and only hope is that they pivot and focus on adding more high end skill players through the draft and FA.
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15 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:
that fake punt is not excusable and you'll never convince me otherwise. i wouldn't expect damar hamlin to get me those yards with 8 or 9 men on the field. that is not a playmaker you are giving the ball to. five yards is A LOT!
Much like the Offense was asked to do more then score points but to also hold on to the ball for a ridiculous number of plays and time the special teams were asked to do something beyond their ability to do in order to protect McD's Defense. This is called "complimentary football" by McD.
What would have been real "complementary football" would be if the Defensive line, which was healthy and is loaded with high draft picks and big time FA's had blown up the KC line. Now that would have protected the LB's far better. But then again that would be expecting a McD defense to play great in the playoffs. It's happened ONCE in the last 10 playoff games.
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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:
He would’ve been legendary if he hit the wide open Khalil Shakir for the GW TD. But he missed. He played a great game….. but he missed when we needed him most
Hard to step into the throw when your left tackled is being pushed into you.
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14 minutes ago, Gugny said:
Im not trolling and I don’t want you to get suspended.
I don’t think there are many bills fans who have loved Josh Allen since day one like I have.
he is not immune from criticism.
This has been a season full of questionable decisions on his part and it was no different tonight.
I believe we will win a Lombard with Josh Allen.
Bit he will need to be better, situationally.
I don’t think that’s an unfair assessment.
You're a troll and only a blind bat wouldn't see it. There is no point in even replying to your points as they're not made in good faith or in the spirit of an open & honest discussion. And please with the "he is not immune from criticism" crap about Allen.
I hate the idea of putting trolling posters on "ignore" as it's like having to shut your blinds because the neighbor is running around naked down the street.
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1 minute ago, BananaB said:
He had 3 bombs bounce off our WRs. Two of them stalled drives. The plays were there and the WRs let him down.
At least two of those three long passes are caught by almost any competent NFL WR. Did you see the catch the KC WR made on the long pass to kick off the 3rd quarter which was exactly the same pay that Sherfield couldn't make? And I don't want to hear a peep from Diggs or his brother in the off season. NOT A FREAKING WORD.
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24 minutes ago, Gugny said:
Allen unnecessarily went into hero ball mode.
More than anything else, I think that is why we lost.
Shut up. This is such a garbage post. Go ahead and suspend me mods but why are brainless trolls allowed to post crap like this on 2BD?
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9 minutes ago, VW82 said:
We just extended him. McD isn't going anywhere. Neither is Beane.
Then our only hope is that they have a come to Jesus moment and understand that they must prioritize the Offense and surround their elite, franchise QB with the best possible talent.
We could have had McCaffrey and we could have had D Hop. Sure they would not have come cheap but neither did Von Miller. From 2019 - 2022 Diggs was the ONLY big move this organization has made in support of Allen. They did the right thing drafting Kincaid in the 1st round. But unless the Bills continue over the next couple of drafts to spend 1st round picks on the O then drafting Kincaid was to little and to late.
If the Bills don't sign a guy like Higgens or use their 1st round pick on a WR then prepare to be deeply disappointed again.
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epic takedown of Nick Wright by Freddie DeBoer (Josh Allen-related)
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
Damn that was GREAT and spot on. Wow.