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  1. 7 hours ago, Logic said:


    Two is that he had a pretty great rookie season, which led to instant stardom and him being in a bazillion TV commercials.

    Mayfield's rookie season was on par with what we saw from Stroud this season but with inferior coaching and talent around him:

     

    Baker:  14 games had 3725 yards; 27 TD's & 14 INT's; rating = 94

     

    Stroud:  15 games had 4108 yards; 23 TD's & 5 INT's; rating = 101

     

     

     

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  2. 5 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

    Couple things.

     

    1. Britt Ried is currently in prison for the accident that disabled the girl.  His money, fame, and celebrity did not keep him from jail.  If anyone is wondering, the Chiefs, maybe out of sincere concern for the childs well being, or maybe out of concern for their image....or probably both....are paying for all that childs care, and best I can understand, alot of pain and suffering cash to the family for the rest of the childs life.  

     

    2. Perhaps Pat is so calm on a football field and able to navigate adversity in football because it's easier and and escape from his family life.  He has a somewhat fruity mom who is a religious MAGA type, a genderfluid douceh canoe brother riding his coat tails.  A wife who can be annoying and controversial at times, and alcoholic dad, and now a bunch of swifties  He probably can't wait to get to practice and games to get away from his chaotic family life.

     

    Probalby not many here familiar with the old adlut swim series "Moral Oral" but this reminds me of the final episode where it shows Moral as an adult and he's turned out to be a well adjusted adult despite all the flawed people who he grew up around.  Seems like Mahomes has navigated all this and come out on the other side as a well adjusted, focused, person, able to handle alot of less than optimal goings on around him.

    I agree. 

     

    As an aside, I see no relevance to what his DAD did and Patrick Mahomes role as the Chiefs QB in the Super Bowl.  If reporters want to talk about that story they should go talk to the Sr Mahomes, his lawyers, or the local police and prosecutors office. It has nothing to do with the QB of the KC Chiefs and quizzing him about it isn't journalism it's harassment.  IMO of course.

     

     

  3. 1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

    He catches the ball, but at no time has anyone been scared of Diggs.  He’s not a game breaker in anyway, NEVER has been.  He’s been a PITA to cover in short areas, but nobody was worried about him “taking over” a game.   The entire defense has to be aware of where a guy like Hill is at all times because on mistake and it’s going to the house, even if you don’t make a mistake, he may just flat out burn you.  Diggs might get a first down, but that’s the end of the threat.

    Correct. The only player on the Bills offense that terrifies defensive coordinators is Allen. 

     

     

  4. You can make an argument that the drops directly cost the Bills games:

     

    *  Against the Jags the Diggs drop at the 5 yard line that resulted in a Jag INT was huge.

     

    *  Against NE the 4th down drop by Knox was huge.

     

    *  Against the Eagles the TD drop by Cook was huge.

     

    *  Against Denver the drop by Davis that ended up as a Broncos INT was huge.

     

    *  Against the Chiefs the 3 drops by Sherfield & Diggs combined were huge.

     

     

     

     

     

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  5. 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

     

    Do you think Dak would do better than Allen here on those throws? Just curious..

    Who cares.  Dak is an inferior QB to Allen and it's not close.

     

    To put this data into perspective the Bills ran more then 1000 plays this season on offense.  They were 0 - 15 on this particular play.  That represents 1.5% pf all the offensive plays they ran.  That is a pea on an elephants back.

     

     

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  6. 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

     

    I have been given many many  'writings' by friends who think they prove yet another conspiracy theory.  Reading Dunne's 'articles" I was shocked to see how close they were to those writings.  He offers no usable facts, has extremely poor, over the top, biased language throughout, and simply twists all to make his (conspiracy theory) point, hatred of McDermott stand out. Sadly, he can clearly fool a small minority of people, who then just circulate his nonsense (conspiracy theory).

     

    Yes, I cannot imagine anyone accepting his non-journalism as gospel, as it is just a conspiracy theory too, one NO reputable publication would ever considering publishing--ever.  They would rip it up and likely fire him for presenting the trash that it is, the violation of journalistic integrity.

     

    To me, only those slurping up the other conspiracy theories, and treating  other non-viable sources with no integrity as legitimate, would accept dunne's crap as legitimate. I am not saying it is 100% accurate, but believe it is close.

     

    Again I have no idea what you're talking about here.  My reaction to Dunn's article was that some of his observations line up with my own and provide additional perspective on issues facing he Bills.  Nothing more and nothing less.

     

    It seems you have a problem with Dunn, fine. But it's beyond presumptuous to lecture those of us who agree with some of what Dunn says that our agreement is indicative of some greater political failings. 

     

     

     

     

    2 hours ago, Rico said:

    You can just look at the Tyler Dunne threads in here to see that he's fooled only the most feeble-minded Bills fans; they've already been appropriately labeled as such. Even less-than-savvy fans can see right through him.

    Can you be more specific?  Because feeble minded or not Dunn has identified and called out some problems with the Bills that line up with what a lot of discerning Bills fans had already noticed.  For example Dunn makes a case that McD doesn't understand Allen or what makes an elite QB tick.  And after McD's public comments and what we saw from Allen over the first half of the season this observation seems spot on to me.

     

    Dunn offers a plausible explanation for why McD/Bean have not surrounded Allen with the best possible offensive talent. 

     

     

  7. 17 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

     

    He left the field with the lead.  The defense didn't close. In a few of the losses, not just the Broncos.  It's no different than the 13 second game.  He left the field with the lead.  The defense didn't close.  The Jets game was on him because he wasn't able to over come his mistakes and take the lead back.  The other 3 games he did.

    But even in the Jet's game Allen drove us to a tie with a last second FG in regulation. Then our special teams happened.

     

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  8. 12 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

     

    They love his dark language and bashing, and I am pretty sure what their politics is as well!

     

    Pretty scary stuff especially if this is not just how they view football, sports, but the real world too.

     

    Imagine what an unscrupulous politician would be able to do with (and to) these people...like sheep to the slaughter. If facts don't matter, then everything is up for grabs...

     

    Lines like the ones you quote above clearly indicate why he could not find work again in an actual newspaper or magazine--any editor would rip his writing to shreds--it would never see the light of day. 

     

     

     

     

    Seriously, because some of us think that Dunn lays out some of the issues with McD that will keep the Bills from getting over the hump you can predict our politics?

     

    And where in providing Dunns perceptive on things are people showing that "facts don't matter"?

     

    Like I've said before I didn't even know who Dunn was before I read these two articles.  And yes I can clearly see that he has an issue with McD.  But I also can see that some of what he's putting out there rings true to me based on my observations of the Bills over the last 5 seasons. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  9. 11 hours ago, 90sBills said:


    Reid definitely maximized Mahomes potential. On the flip side Mahomes catapulted Reid from a perceived ‘choke in big games’ coach to arguably best of all time. 
     

    What I find interesting is through all the times we’ve exchanged posts about Mahomes you’ve never complimented him. Not one time. It’s always about his coaches his weapons his team and whatever else that’s responsible for his success. But never anything acknowledging that he is a special player.

     

    How did you view Brady when he was beating up on the Bills all those years? I always saw and acknowledged Brady’s greatness even though he was not a Bill. It’s the same with Mahomes. I see a lot of Brady’s qualities in Mahomes. I can see and acknowledge Mahomes’ greatness even though he’s responsible for sending the Bills home 3 of the last 4 years. These qualities don’t have anything to do with coaching.

     

    That’s why I disagree with you about Allen having the same kind of success as Mahomes if he’s with KC. Allen would definitely have more success for sure. Most likely win a ring. But not at the rate of Mahomes’ success. There are similarities between Brady and Mahomes that I don’t see from Allen. It doesn’t mean that Allen can’t lead the Bills to a championship one day. I think he will and Buffalo will finally get a Lombardi. But Mahomes is different. 

    It's a Bills message board so I don't feel there is a requirement to praise Mahomes every time I discuss him.  The bigger question to me is why do so many Bills fans on 2BD nitpick Allen finding fault with so much that he does. 

     

    But for the record I have repeatedly stated that I believe Mahomes is one of the two best QB's in the NFL with the other being Allen.

     

    BTW, I consider Brady to be the GOAT.

     

    And I disagree with you.  There is nothing I've seen in Allen's & Mahomes performances to make me think that if they switched teams Mahomes would do better then Allen in Buffalo or that Allen would do worse then Mahomes in KC. 

     

     

     

  10. 4 hours ago, 90sBills said:


    This is the first year that KC’s defense has been ‘shut down’. Mahomes has been this way since he stepped on the field. No amount of coaching can instill those kinds of instincts. It’s ok to acknowledge a QB’s greatness even though he’s not a Bill. Root for the Bills to kick his ass when they play but gotta give credit when he’s great. 

    In 2019, 2020 & 2021 Mahomes had access to much better skill players then Allen did.  Big Advantage Mahomes.

     

    In 2022 the KC offensive line was one of the top lines in the NFL and the Bills had one of the worst.  So in the year that the difference between Allen & Mahomes skill player arsenal was fading the Chiefs provided Mahomes with a much better O line then Allen had. Big advantage Mahomes.

     

    In 2023 as the KC O line struggled and their WR's were not very good Mahomes enjoyed the benefits of an elite, shut down defense that unlike previous great regular season Bills defenses continued its high level of play throughout their three playoff games.  Big advantage Mahomes.

     

    And of course over the entire time in which Allen and Mahomes have been competing Mahomes has enjoyed the benefits of having Andy Reid as his coach.  Big advantage Mahomes.

     

    From 2018 through the 2023 season Allen has never enjoyed a better situation then Mahomes. Not once.

     

     

  11. 40 minutes ago, zow2 said:

     

    I agree that Mahomes is ahead but i think it's much more than Reid.  He makes these little decisions during a play that other QBs just screw up or panic about.  

    For example, against the Ravens it was a 3rd down around midfield still early in the game.  The edge rusher was right in Mahomes' face so fast on a screen pass.  Most QBs would have thrown it right into the defender for a deflected incompletion or taken a sack. Mahomes calmly lobbed it very high over the edge rusher's arms with nice little touch right to his RB in stride for a conversion and nice gain.  Very underrated stuff like that and it's all Mahomes on instinct,

    Again though Mahomes benefited from a shut down defense in the Ravens game.  After going up 17 - 7 how many times did the Chiefs drive the ball?  Mahomes enjoyed a luxury that Allen has rarely enjoyed in the playoffs:  the ability to repeatedly not score points on offense with the expectation that the opponent wouldn't be able to score either. 

  12. 3 hours ago, stuvian said:

    Dalvin Cook was in and out of there long enough to be a source. I feel sorry for Zach Wilson after reading that. He was doomed from the start. 

     

    How amazing is it that billionaires turn over the keys to the castle to children like Hackett? The guy has done nothing but ride the coat tails of Aaron Rodgers.

    Yea my opinion of Wilson went way up after reading this:

     

    Saleh told the quarterback he would be inactive for the rest of the season and that the team would try to trade him in the offseason.  But in the days before the Falcons game, Saleh reversed course and told Wilson to start practicing as if he might play again. He did not play against Atlanta, but after the Jets lost, Wilson knew they were considering starting him again. He expressed reluctance about returning to play and said he would politely decline if asked, based on his previous conversation with Saleh and fears of getting injured behind the Jets’ makeshift offensive line.

     

    Like a lot of other folks I thought Wilson was a baby for saying he didn't want to go back in.  But if Salah told him that he would be inactive the rest of the season and then changed his mind that is non Salah not Wilson.

     

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  13. 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

    We don't have  speed or pass catchers outside of Kincaid, Shakir or Cook. Diggs is a big ? At this time.  We need WR badly.

    And Cook needs to work on catching the ball.  By my count he dropped FOUR easy TD passes.  If he can fix this problem he will be a force in the passing game to.

     

     

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  14. 27 minutes ago, 90sBills said:


    KC’s receivers were not great last year either and they won it all. I disagree that the difference between Buffalo and KC this year is a fg. The difference between the two is one team playing in the Superbowl and the other team that cannot win when it really counts. It isn’t limited to just this year either. 
     

    As for Allen. He has all the physical tools. Even though Mahomes can make all the throws I think Allen has the bigger arm. Where he trails Mahomes is the mental side of the game. This is something that Allen can and should improve if he wants to continue to be in the conversation as one of the top QBs in the league.

     


     

    KC had much better skill players in 2019, 2020 & 2021.  They had a much better offensive line in 2022. 

     

    As for Mahomes being ahead of Allen in the "mental" aspects of football I agree and would point a finger at Reid as the reason.  On his best day DaBoll was only a fraction as smart an offensive guy as Reid.

     

     

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  15. 9 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

    We can always hope. End of next season is a long way off and many things can happen.......You never know, either he gets it done or he's out IMO.

    I would prefer that McD leads us to a Super Bowl and Johnson goes somewhere else.  But I just don't see McD getting over the hump and to waste Allen's best years with a defensive minded coach would be so sad.

     

     

  16. 3 hours ago, 90sBills said:


    It’s funny that most people on here believes that Allen is better than Mahomes. Then turn around and demand that Allen needs all pro pass catchers everywhere to help him win. 
     

    All the while Mahomes is leading his team to yet another Superbowl with a rag tag receiving group. I get being homers but sometimes it’s just too much. 

    You misrepresent what is being said.  First off this is the first season in which it could be said that Allen's package of skill players was on par with the Chiefs.  Over the previous 5 seasons there was no comparison as Mahomes enjoyed a huge advantage in the complimentary talent surrounding him.

     

    But even this year Mahomes had a great defense that has actually played better in the playoffs then the regular season.  Allen has never enjoyed the luxury of having a defense that wasn't anything but terrible in the playoffs.

     

    Mahomes has Reid.

     

    And the difference between the Chiefs and Bills this season was a FG.  They finished with the same record and Buffalo gave KC it's toughest game in the AFC playoffs.

     

    I think that Mahomes is the number one QB in the NFL because he is the most accomplished QB playing today.  I think it's fair to say that Allen, because of his unique physical gifts, may be as good or better then Mahomes but until he can win a couple of Super Bowl titles Mahomes will always be considered the "better" QB.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  17. 3 hours ago, McBean said:

    Him, BB, and Vrabel are still on the board.

     

    Tell mclap Super Bowl next year or you’re fired immediately after the last game when the zeroes hit the clock.

    Cowherd said something similar today on the news that Johnson was staying put.  Basically he identified a number of potential jobs next season where he could land with a great QB including Buffalo. 

    14 minutes ago, Beast said:

    If the Bills make a coaching change and they turn to a guy that has no track record, and Josh in his mid-life as an NFL QB, I think that would be very risky.

    Sounds like this makes you nervous.  Allen plus Johnson could be DYNO-MITE!

     

    Switching to an OC with a proven track record could unleash Allen who is at the top of his physical gifts while nearing his summit mentally. 

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  18. 11 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

     

    Haters gonna hate; do you ever see any positive posts from these same people or ever see them show up after a win?  Yeah, me either. 

    They usually vanish for a couple of days before starting back up.

     

    2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

     

    We don't even play the playoff games if the defense doesn't get this team into the playoffs.

     

    We have the number one seed and week 18 "bye" if Allen doesn't throw 3 picks vs Jets, 2 vs Den, and doesn't throw a pick on first play of game vs NE.  How healthy would we have been if guys didn't have to play for 2 weeks?

    We are also likely the 1st seed if the defense can hold the lead that Allen gave them in 3 games with under 2 minutes to play.

     

     

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  19. 7 minutes ago, beebe said:

     

    Mahomes would have taken the Bills to the Super Bowl this year, and for sure would have taken at least two previous iterations of the Bills to the Super Bowl. In part because he wouldn't be playing against Mahomes!

     

    I disagree 100%.  Do you think that the Bills defense would have held the Ravens to 3 points for two and a half quarters like the Chiefs did yesterday?  And if Allen was on the Chiefs what do you think he would have done to the Bills defense two weeks ago?

     

     

  20. 5 hours ago, Process said:

    The Bills need a WR that can catch the ****ing ball I could care less who the QB coach is

    BTW did you see some of the amazing catches by WR's this past weekend?  Sure there were a couple of drops by one guy but man I saw a number of catches that were breathtaking.  Think about the three incomplete passes on deep balls:  one to Sherfield, one to Harty (I think) and one to Diggs.  Only the Harty miss where he laid out for the ball would have required a catch like we saw this weekend.  The simple fact is that week in and week out we seldom saw elite, spectacular caches by our receivers.

     

     

    6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

    How many more weapons does he need? He had Diggs, Shakir, Kincaid, Cook, and even Knox. Who did Mahomes have besides Kelce?

    There aren't many teams that have more passing weapons than us.

    Disagree.  Beyond Diggs, Allen does not have an above average skill player.  Now I do believe that Cook, Kincaid & Shakir have the POTENTIAL next year to move into the top tiers of play makers but they're not in that company at the present time.

     

    And Diggs doesn't come close to matching Kelsey in the playoffs.  The other thing the Chiefs had was a much better D. 

     

     

     

     

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  21. I thought I would post this here to as it fits better then where I originally posted it:

     

    It's sad watching & listening to the completely different national takes on Jackson & Allen's games against KC.  Most of the talking heads hate that they have to admit that Jackson played poorly but man are they coming up with excuses none of them would give Allen.

     

    *  Excuse 1: Spags was great.  Yes he was but most of the time, including the playoffs, Allen does just fine against Spags D.  I wonder if you asked Spags who between Jackson & Allen is tougher to prepare for and keeps him up at night prior to the game he would say Allen and it's not even close.

     

    *  Excuse 2: Monken the Raven's OC sucked and didn't run the ball enough.  Wow this one is creative.  No one outside of Allen apologists on 2BD ever call out the coaching as not exactly helping Allen out.  And it is kind of funny that it's viewed as a problem for Jackson when the presumptive MVP QUARTERBACK is asked to throw the ball a lot.

     

    *  Excuse 3:  Because Mahomes!  I guess because Mahomes was excellent Jackson can't be expected to be great.  You know like Highlander where "there can only be ONE".  But wait Allen and Mahomes have played in multiple games where both have been great.  Aw shut up homer.

     

    *  Excuse 4:  Flowers fumbled at the goal line!  I guess Jackson INT in the end zone means nothing next to this play.  To bad for Flowers that he doesn't play for the Bills.  No one outside of 2BD would be calling out that fumble as having anything to do with Allen sucking and losing he game.  But since blame must be deflected from Jackson throwing it on Flowers makes a lot of sense.

     

    Oh and some Talking Head's were saying that Jackson may have, GASP, fallen in with the likes of Dak Prescott and Josh Allen in struggling in the playoffs?  Say WHAT! How could anyone but the dumbest Allen hater put him in with those 2 in the playoffs?  Lets see: 

     

    * record: Allen is 5 - 5 versus a combined record of 4 - 9.  Allen has more playoff wins then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

     

    * total TD's: Allen has more total TD's in 10 games then Prescott & Jackson have scored in 13 playoff games COMBINED!

     

    * total TO's:  Allen has fewer playoff turnovers then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

     

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  22. 5 hours ago, zow2 said:

     

    The National talking heads are giving credit to Spags.  Apparently KC's plan was to take away the Ravens ground attack and force Lamar to be a QB.  So Lamar throws 37 times which is too many and he inexplicably doesn't take off and scramble nearly enough.  He could have created more especially in the 2nd half when the Baltimore D held the line.

    It's sad watching & listening to the completely different national takes on Jackson & Allen's games against KC.  Most of the talking heads hate that they have to admit that Jackson played poorly but man are they coming up with excuses none of them would give Allen.

     

    Excuse 1: Spags was great.  Yes he was but most of the time, including the playoffs, Allen does just fine against Spags D.  I wonder if you asked Spags who between Jackson & Allen is tougher to prepare for and keeps him up at night prior to the game he would say Allen and it's not even close.

     

    Excuse 2: Monken the Raven's OC sucked and didn't run the ball enough.  Wow this one is creative.  No one outside of Allen apologists on 2BD ever call out the coaching as not exactly helping Allen out.  And it is kind of funny that it's viewed as a problem for Jackson when the presumptive MVP QUARTERBACK is asked to throw the ball a lot.

     

    *  Excuse 3:  Because Mahomes!  I guess because Mahomes was excellent Jackson can't be expected to be great.  You know like Highlander where "there can only be ONE".  But wait Allen and Mahomes have played in multiple games where both have been great.  Aw shut up homer.

     

    Excuse 4:  Flowers fumbled at the goal line!  I guess Jackson INT in the end zone means nothing next to this play.  To bad for Flowers that he doesn't play for the Bills.  No one outside of 2BD would be calling out that fumble as having anything to do with Allen sucking and losing he game.  But since blame must be deflected from Jackson throwing it on Flowers makes a lot of sense.

     

    Oh and some Talking Head's were saying that Jackson may have, GASP, fallen in with the likes of Dak Prescott and Josh Allen in struggling in the playoffs?  Say WHAT! How could anyone but the dumbest Allen hater put him in with those 2 in the playoffs?  Lets see: 

     

    * record: Allen is 5 - 5 versus a combined record of 4 - 9.  Allen has more playoff wins then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

     

    * total TD's: Allen has more total TD's in 10 games then Prescott & Jackson have scored in 13 playoff games COMBINED!

     

    * total TO's:  Allen has fewer playoff turnovers then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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