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On 5/19/2025 at 10:43 AM, BillsFan130 said:
I'm still not sure why you're drilled towards that one game where Goff played horrible and they won. Last season there were 4-5 examples where Goff needed to play great to get the win, and they did win, or his defence let him down in a shoot out.
Josh Allens stats against Atlanta in January 2022:
11 for 26 for 120 yards, 0 tds and 3 INTS.
But the Bills won by 2 touchdowns- So are we going to define one game as "the bills carry Josh Allen?"
To be fair Allen had 15 carries for 81 yards and 2 TD's in that game.
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15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
It was a game tying 2 point conversion!We would have won in OT homie.
There was also enough time left in regulation to go down and win the game on a FG. Bass was hot at the end of the season and in the playoffs.
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14 hours ago, Another Fan said:
That 1st video though I think was made by a hater.
Josh made some key plays in that 2019 Jets game to lead the Bills back to victory for example.
But yes he continues to get better and better
And he also made great plays in the Thanksgiving game against Dallas which sort of propelled the current Bills run into the national limelight.
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6 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:
Distractions are things like mouthing off in the locker room and refusing to play. Cook isn't being a distraction, his brother is but he is not. He will play on his rookie contract this year and then leave next year and we will draft his replacement. Dalvin tweeting 20M on the eve of the draft is kindergarten negotiating tactics that he somehow thinks will encourage a trade. No one cares. We made an offer, it was not to Cook's liking. He tried to ask for an exorbitant amount and Beane walked away from the table and announced negotiations are over. There is no negotiation, these ridiculous Dalvin tweets accomplish nothing but alienating James from the fans. What is Cook going to do, sulk and give poor effort in his contract year? He'll never see the bag he wants that way. He has no choice but to show up, play as well as he can and then leave and hand us a comp pick on his way out of the door. I very much doubt he's getting traded, this should be another solid year of production for us for cheap.
Agree. The players know this is a business and Cook is doing what he thinks he has to do. Missing a few OTA's is a non-issue. And as you say if he wants the big dollars he has to have a great season in 2025.
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1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:
Cook is an excellent pass catcher, in fact his receiving ability was one of the main reasons the Bills wanted him so badly. Last season he caught 32 of his 38 passes and this year, as the Bills wake up and use him more as a receiver, he will catch many more.
It is a silly worn out illogical cliche that running backs are "an extremely replaceable position". Insert wide receiver, guard, tight end, cornerback..... into that sentence and it would be just as nonsensical and just as impossible to support with actual evidence. Just because some uninformed 'analysts' started saying that a few years ago does not mean it is true.
Jame Cook has elite speed, elusiveness, vision, and in the last two years has transformed himself physically into someone who can really run with power and break tackles. Hence his 18 touchdowns last year. And many of them were after first contact. He is an elite back in many ways, one of the top backs in the league and will just get better in the next few years.
Agree with this take about Cook but 15 million per year is to much. That's what makes this situation so frustrating - both of these positions are right.
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2 hours ago, Ga boy said:
Has anyone ever done an analysis of the percentage of plays that JA17 goes off script with plays, say, compared to Tom Brady? Last year, Josh was more selective in running the ball, but passing still seems to be mostly sandlot ball. Every year I think I’ll see our QB become more of a pocket passer. Maybe he just can’t do it. After all, he is MVP, so why change. The main reason to change is to give him more years to win multiple Lombardi’s. When will he become a pocket passer? He has the gun of Marino so he should be able to do it.
I hear you. It's just so frustrating to see how recent Super Bowl winning QB's like Mahomes & Hurts, spend all day in the pocket just slinging the ball around. I mean I've never seen either of them leave the pocket or have success off schedule.
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43 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
the Defense got better the year after they lost the SB.
Yes it did and that great defense almost got them to a 2nd consecutive SB. In both those seasons, 2021 & 2022, the Bengal's D and not their O carried the team. But since those seasons Cincy has allowed their D to go to crap, got rid of their brilliant D coach and double-downed on their offensive weapons. Hell, they still haven't fixed their O line.
The Bengal's are conducting an interesting experiment - put all your resources into field the best Offensive skill players to surround your elite QB while simultaneously ignoring your D and O line. Only time will tell whether this will work or not. I'm betting against it as Cincy fails to make the playoffs for a 3rd straight year.
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23 hours ago, Billl said:
They led in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl with the same core of players and have played the Chiefs tougher in the postseason than any other team. The options are to play to their existing, massive strengths and try to hit on some draft picks around them or tear things down around Burrow and try to completely reinvent the roster. No serious franchise would go with the latter.
First off, that 4th quarter SB lead, in fact the Bengal's 2021 playoff success, was orchestrated by the brilliant play of their defense. Their offense was at best average during that run. Today several of those defensive players are gone as is the defensive coach that seemed to have Mahomes/Reid's number. They are not close to being the same team. In fact the Bengals are a fundamentally different team then the one that made a trip to the SB 4 years ago.
Second, your claim that the Bengal's play the Chief's tougher then anyone else is false. The Bills have also played the Chiefs down to the wire their last 3 games.
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2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Burrow is a mirage of his surroundings IMO. That's not to say he doesn't have skills. He does. But he's greatly propped up by the WRs around him and the fact the defense is so bad they are in almost constant come back mode and have to pass 40+ times a game.
Even Jake Browning looked really good throwing to Chase and Higgins 2 seasons ago. I see people putting him top 3. I don't see him even in the top 5 QBs.
That's a fair point and also Burrow and the O were often going against late game prevent defenses. That will do more then anything to prop up your stats. Just look at Mahomes stats in the SB against the Eagles up to the point where the birds led 34 - 0 then look at his stats the rest of the game against a prevent/back-up D.
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1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said:
This kind of mistake? Exactly my point. They couldn’t have known.
But my understanding is that they knew about Hoecht.
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Just now, Herc11 said:
If this was late in the season taking them out of the playoffs, sure I can understand the outrage. It couldn't of happened at a better time to begin the season.
I agree that it happening now is way better then in November. But if we have just our fair share of injuries on the D combined with the loss of these two guys who were expected to get a lot of playing time then it is really going to hurt.
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Just now, 34-78-83 said:
so all the pitchfork crowd can rightfully be upset about is signing Hoecht while knowing his situation. Period.
I don't think those of us deeply disappointed here are part of a "pitchfork crowd". When your Super Bowl window is wide open and the time is NOW to stack the deck and win a championship this kind of mistake can be fatal and frankly is inexcusable.
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46 minutes ago, Wizard said:
For all of the fawning over Beane, let's stop. He just overpaid for two defensive linemen who also are going to be suspended for 6 weeks. Not one below average defender but two.
Guy is average.
His track record on defensive free agent signings has been average at best. Rapp, Floyd & Douglas were OK signings but nothing special and Miller was a disaster. Sure the injury was at fault for Miller but given his age it always was a very real possibility.
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Calls into question the competence of the Bills front office. Don't see how anyone could see it any other way.
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9 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
Yesterday his average annual contract through 2028 was $43M. Today that same contract now costs $55M.
Help me find the "discount" there.Allen could have demanded that the Bills pay him 70 million per year, ALL of it guaranteed, starting today and what choice would they have had?
11 hours ago, BarleyNY said:My bet is that there was an agreement to keep him at a certain % of cap or at a certain level amongst his peers when the last deal was signed.
You mean at a percent of the CAP that makes Allen the 13th highest paid QB in the NFL at signing?
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24 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
Just to remark on some cap details.
For those who like to follow contracts in terms of team cap %.
Spotrac has Josh Allen's new contract at 19.7 %.
That is an unbelievable discount given to the Bills by Allen.
5 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:A team like Raiders would have given him a modern day watson contract with an insane amount of guarteed money and not think twice.
If Allen were actually available and all you had to do was sign him to a contract and he was your QB at least 2/3 of the teams in the NFL would have offered him a 6 year deal at 70 million per year fully guaranteed.
13 minutes ago, Since1981 said:Good trade off. More guaranteed. Less total, that can be used on player. Let’s be clear too. $250M guaranteed is enough money for anything he or his fam could ever want.
And you can throw in every dead beat cousin twice removed.
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5 hours ago, UKBillFan said:
It was a fantastic throw and Kincaid should have caught it. But the protection call before the play was wrong, which left him exposed. That's being exceptionally harsh, I know, as the Chiefs brought something out of the playbook they had never used before, and Josh almost made something out of nothing due to his physical talent. But it went wrong from the call on the line.
In other words Allen was clutch in a playoff game on the road where he was facing the best defensive coach in football with a top 5 defense.
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7 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:
Your assessment is also your personal opinion. A lot of Allen 'haters' and Allen 'homers' don't believe there is any middle ground here. You probably think his incompletion to Shakir in the end zone was an instance of him being 'anti-clutch'. I don't think that at all. That is just my opinion. I do think he could play better and that he should always look to improve his game. I expect that of every player on the team. We all should. But by and large even in the biggest moments, he has played great and to say he has not been clutch when it mattered the most, it almost seems like we are watching two different people playing QB at the same time. It just seems that the small subset of people who post here who think Allen needs to step up more in bigger moments, they come off as expecting him to be superman and to be perfect all the time. If he makes the slightest mistake, they instantly jump on him and criticize. I don't understand the willingness and desire to criticize like that but maybe that's just me.
Allen's throw in the face of that all out KC blitz in the championship game was the definition of being clutch. Had Kincaid caught that pass, and it was a very catchable ball, all we would have heard was what an amazing and clutch throw Allen made on 4th down to keep that drive alive.
And the previous season in the Divisional Playoff game while Jones caused Allen to miss the TD throw that late 4th quarter drive was also the very definition of clutch on Allen's part. Taking up most of the 2nd half of the 4th quarter Allen drove the Bills down to easy FG range to tie the game and possibly force OT with less then 2 minutes left only to see the FG missed.
People who claim Allen has not been clutch in the playoffs are not only wrong but IMO are not Bills fans but trolls.
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1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Im sure Brees had bad games that brought his down. One issue with Josh is he can't keep having those games every year that hurt him like that. Consistency is what we need more of at this stage of is career.
You want consistency from Allen? How about:
* 6 straight playoff seasons
* 5 straight division titles
* Top 5 playoff stats in NFL history
* Hasn't missed a game since 2018
* More total TD's in his first 7 seasons then any other QB in NFL history has scored through their first 8 seasons in the league.
When folks said Allen needed to cut down on his TO's that was a legitimate area for improvement. Increasing his completion percentage by a few points is a nice to have that is unlikely to have any impact on the number of season & playoff wins.
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Sure, and if in either of the two cases the offense had scored and then KC had immediately responded with seconds remaining a la 13 seconds, we'd be having a different conversation. But the fact remains in the last 3 playoff games the Bills O had the ball with the clock in their favour to go and score a game winning touchdown. They are 1/3. You have to fix that as well as improve the defensive performance against KC in the post season. Because whether they are low scoring or high scoring history of the past few years tells us Bills - KC always goes down to the end. So you need whichever side of the ball it comes down to in those spots to be capable of winning the high leverage moments. And while I definitely think it is right to be more concerned about the D than the O in those situations, there are legit concerns on both sides.
But in 2 of the drives you describe the Bills missed an "easy" 44 yard FG to tie and their TE dropped a very catchable ball that would have kept a potential game winning drive alive. So sure, you can try to squeeze a bit more out of your offense, though I don't see any need for Allen to play better as IMO that would be an unrealistic expectation, the real problem remains the defense.
If I had to assign percents I would say the D has been 90% of the problem, the ST's have been 5% of the problem and the O has been the remaining 5% of the problem.
Perfection is never going to happen in the NFL. Saying there are problems on both ides of the ball is just a distraction IMO. If Allen and the O play exactly the same over the next 5 seasons as they have over the last 5 seasons but the D improves significantly the Bills will go to 3 Super Bowl games with 2 Super Bowl wins. But if you make the O even better and don't improve the D then MAYBE the Bills make it to a SB in the next 5 seasons only to be blown out.
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3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:
Or when the offense does score late and there are 13 seconds left...no, I get your point and we should always look to improve. But fault? It's the defenses fault. Except the Cinci loss.
And I would argue that even in the Cinci playoff loss the defense was more at fault because given the weather and the fact that it was a home playoff game they came out of the locker room and resembled a tub of butter being cut by the Bengal's hot knife of an offense.
Remember how the Bengal's had back to back long TD drives to go up 14 - 0 before the Bills O had even started their 2nd possession. Then after the Bills O clawed their way back to make it a one score game, the D immediately allowed Cinci to go on long, time consuming, momentum sucking drives to go back up by two scores.
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4 hours ago, Process said:
The Defense is without question the main reason we are 0-4 vs the chiefs in the playoffs. There is no denying that.
But when thinking about the last two games specifically, the first thing that will always come to mind, and what sticks with me the most, is the offense having the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win it, and coming up short. That's what haunts me, even though yes, the defense is the main problem.
In both these cases you're assuming that the offense scores leaving no time on the clock for KC to respond. Last season, if Dawkins gets a better block on Jones and Allen hits Shakir for the TD there would have been plenty of time for the Chiefs to go down and score the winning TD. This last playoff game it's likley KC would have had some time to score and win the game. After all if 13 seconds wasn't enough then 45 seconds would feel like eternity.
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3 hours ago, DrBob806 said:
I already mentioned it did.
It's la play an MVP makes. He didn't make it.
Nonsense. Are you saying that MVP's make every great play that is possible? It's this completely unhinged and unrealistic expectation around what Allen can and can not do that I find frustrating.
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1 hour ago, Brand J said:
I’m not apologizing for Allen and the offense’s failures or making any excuses, but Chris Jones bull rushed Dawkins and Dawkins inadvertently stepped on Josh’s foot which caused the errant pass.
That play became a highly debated one because many others said Allen should’ve taken Diggs on the crosser who was wide open and he wouldn’t have had his foot stepped on. It also would’ve allowed the Bills to milk more time off the clock, leaving Mahomes with less of a chance to come back - if the Bills had eventually scored a TD. All of this is to say, the Bills just haven’t made the play that needed to be made with the game on the line. Whoever was at fault.
Yes because in the crazy world of Bills fandom Allen is not only supposed to lead the Offense to the game winning TD but also to use up the rest of the clock to protect the Bills terrible playoff Defense. And he must do all this alone, against the eventual Super Bowl champ in a playoff game.
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