Way to miss my point. You and EII are a piece of work. At least EII understands that the only way to prevent criminals from having guns is if guns didn't exist worldwide, ever. Since they do and even if all gun manufacturing ceased to exist, criminals would still have guns but the law abiding citizens wouldn't and would be easier targets. At least now criminals in certain places have to think twice before they pull a gun, as the intended victim might have one as well. Well except most major cities in the US, where liberal controls have banned weapons. DC, Detroiit, etc... all have had no guns permitted, yet these cities are always at the top of the murder and gun violence lists every year.