HamptonBillsfan

If Josh didn't show the most awe inspiring, heroic, balls to the wall QB play, it would have taken much longer to get past the epic collapse by our coaching staff after he handed them a home championship game.

You're right, I regret regurgitating that nastiness.

In Flores lawsuit, he claims Brian said he was down on Sean, and even if he wasn't offered an HC job, he wanted out. This is according to Nate Mendelssohn, a beat reporter I guess.

He is a winning, no nonsense coach. I think he would be great for a young team like Jax. The problem is he's terrible with the media and he will get up in the faces of his bosses and ownership if he thinks they're not helping him win. Sad situation.

He burned his bridges up here. The guy got his 1st HC job and he trashes Sean, who gave him the OC job that laid the groundwork. Classless. Brian, every Bills player gave you a sterling endorsement and you stick in Sean's ear.

Great move by Beane. This guy will be a younger, more unpredictable and better suited to the type of offense Josh wants to run. He provides continuity with his understanding of what Brian did well, a coordination with Josh's passing guru Palmer and comfort zone for the best QB in the industry. If you disagree with the hire,ask yourself if the was Rodgers or Brady asking for a coach or a player, what would any team do?

Let him go,he's ordinary. He'll have to get used to bad O-line play,because that's what the G-Men do.

You're right, no reason to be encouraged until you see him change. The only thing is if Beane and Terry/Kim indicate this ultra-concervative style is not working with our personnel, changes could come.

We know it was one mistake after another. Do we need Sean Payton to explain what we did wrong. Sean McDermott has to sleep with it. Hopefully this scar makes Sean more proactive when the stakes are so high. Belichick, Parcells, Payton all know when you can make a move to improve your chances, take the risk. Bills fans will expect that henceforth.

I hope Joe Cool says the same thing to him when the Bengal end their season.

Why not surround our great QB with better skill guys and an improved O-line. As it is ,Josh will find a way, but Sanders and McKenzie must be replaced with speed and end game production. Another good RB would also help.

Well said Mr. K. 100%

Garrett was terrible with Dak, got fired in season by the lowly Giants. Childress was bad with Minn and has never established himself as a winner. Remember me touting Dorsey. He's going to be good. He was instrumental in making Josh the best in the business.

All scrap heap,failed HCs and OCs. Childress,Garrett,those two kill your argument right off the bat. Again our HOF QB wants Dorsey and trusts him. Means nothing right.

Listen, I understand you like Doug and what he did with Foles the SB year was nothing if not miraculous. His subsequent years were bad and as a consequence they had to offload their 1st rd QB and Foles. Besides why would he come to Buffalo to be Sean's OC That the formula for disaster.

Since you insist on calling my assertion "ridiculous " without the courtesy of offering a legitimate reason,I can only infer that you're trying to insult me. Let me tell you,in this my final installment in this tedious back and forth, why it's not ridiculous. Since 1994 when the Bills went to the SB,they've had numerous OCs. 28 years of losing and being the whipping boy of the AFCE. Now we have a team that has some talent, if you don't have quality playcalling, why should anyone expect better results. Dorsey has been at the side of Dabol and has Josh's trust. He should provide continuity,not to mention the skill players all want him. If you prefer a failed OC off the scrap heap,good luck.

And then was fired shortly after for running that franchise into the ground and alienating the fanbase because he thought he invented modern offensive football strategy. By the way, why hasn't Doug gotten a sniff of OC or HC jobs since being fired? Could be his head is to big for the room.

Why is everything a gotcha moment with you. I gave my opinion about Beane not retaining Dorsey and how it would be a negative. I didn’t retract anything. You're in no position to call anything ridiculous. You have your opinion,that's all.

Did Josh ascend to elite status under Dabol/Dorsey, as opposed to the losing OCs Beane brought before Dabol,who were replaced in short order. You want to diminish what Dabol/Dorsey accomplished, where we we should have advanced to a home Championship game if not for Sean's epic brain freeze the last 13 seconds, go right ahead. Don't prioritize what makes Josh comfortable with a playcaller. Taking any leftover failed OC will be fine. Some of the people just want to be arbitrary.

What's at play? This is just fodder on this board. You don’t know that Dabol has reached out to Dorsey. My point to all the conspiracy theorists is Josh wants this guy so Beane has a responsibility to the best player on our team to get him. Why are you deluding yourself into accepting his departure as no big deal. Accept whatever happens,accept impotence. Accept mediocrity.

It may not result in killing our chances,but wouldn't you want to make the most important player on your team and arguably the best QB in football,comfortable with his playcaller if you want to maximize our chances. If Josh has expressed his preference on an OC, Beane has a mandate to get him. It's not as if there's multiple teams vying for him It's the Giants, the worst team in football by most accounts.

Keep accepting mediocrity, the birthright of Bills Fans. If Beane can't retain a QB coach, how can we trust him to improve the roster with FAs. He's a freaking QB coach who hasn't gotten a sniff with regards to an OC job by anyone other than the coach-killing Giants.

Why would Dorsey want to go to a place where coaches go to die. Dabol has no talent,no cap space and ownership that has lost patience with losing. Last 2 coaches, 2 and out. If we can't retain a key piece of our coaching staff,who 17 really wants, Beane sucks.

Like I said, with the prospect of HC job in the future, work with 17 or Danny Dimes. If money similar,no Brainerd. The Giants are coach killers. What does lol oh boy mean? Sean is viewed universally as the sole reason for 13 seconds. It has Nothing to do with Dabol, or Dorsey that we are not good enough. Okay

This is how you judge the ability of a GM. Don't be misled,if you're an OC who wants to be a H C, do you want to work with Josh or Danny Fumbles, if the money is similar.