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Quite a few young guys that hopefully review film study the tape and learn a lot from yesterday's game. Their growth and response is more important than their play yesterday.

Threw? Calling one of those a throw is rather generous

TEs? WR? OL?

So we don't need WRs? So what would you draft/sign?

I'd support the tweak that if a review is flippen obvious, let's reverse the call on the field. Until that starts happening, all other tweaks just don't matter.

Their NT was pushing Morse back a few feet all day. The Raven's DL made our OL look pretty bad. I've been impressed with the progress of our OL over the past 3 or so games. The Bill's OL looked like they did our first or second game this year, or dare I say like last year's OL. They were the most disappointing unit in yesterday's game in my opinion.

In my humble opinion, the times when the pocket didn't break down was the exception yesterday. The edges were runways straight to our QB. The offense as a whole just didn't execute. I'm so frustrated with the blocking on our screens and flat routes. These are badly needed against blitzes and our WRs and even TEs are constantly missing their blocking assignments. There was one yesterday where Beas was behind Singletary instead of out in front of him. The entire scheme on these is missing and missing badly. If I was an opposing DC, I'd blitz all the time until we get these fixed.

This is where I am. Mistakes of teammates in a team sport snowball and impact the performance of all.

What future would that be?

Please don't take this personal, but I have a hard time believing anyone that claims to have known how LJ was going to turn out two years ago. All the talk was about, and I mean all the talk, was about BM, SD, JA and JR. The story will most like be different two years from now.

The direction each QB is heading currently is significantly different. Baker came out hot and is faltering whereas Josh seems to be on a course of continued improvement.

I was a bit surprised when the first Q to Josh was about LJ. Then comes the second question, which again was about Lamar and the Raven's offense. I quit watching after that. I understand these questions to McD or one of the Bill's defensive staff/players. But to our QB, or any other offensive guy? Come on press.

It's hard to shake a negative. Josh is going to have to live with this for a bit longer and it'll take a lot more good passes to shake this stigma. it'll come.

Don't rush it man! You know I'm the biggest JA fan on the board. Too much too soon can kill it too. I'm gong to manage my expectations so as not to create disappointment for me. Cautious optimism... Six long and sustained drives. Three TDs, three FGs, no punts, winning the TOS. I like it.

Check out the book, The Black 14, written by Ryan Thorburn. Ryan's a good guy, a UW graduate, was the Univ of Colo beat writer for the Boulder newspaper when he wrote the book and is now the beat writer for the Eugene newspaper, covering the Oregon Ducks. Reader's digest version of the event. This occurred in 1969, when America was deep in it's racial strife. Wyo had a coach, Lloyd Eaton, who recruited a number of black athletes when many colleges/universities didn't. Under Eaton, Wyoming became a regular top 25 program. In 1968, Wyoming's only loss came to LSU in the Sugar Bowl. BYU was in the WAC and was coming to town. You may know that the LDS Church didn't allow blacks to become priests and this year many of the schools BYU was playing were protesting BYU and the LDS Church. One of the ways included the football players wearing armbands during the games. Activists were following many events at the time, including the BYU football team. Activists arrived in Laramie early the week of the game trying to stir things up. Eaton told his players to stay out of these politics and not to bring any of it into the program A handful of the black players approached Eaton asking if they could wear armbands. He told them no. Later that week, 14 of our black players asked to talk to Eaton. Eaton tore into them and threw all of them off the team. Eaton was a very strict authoritarian, to the degree of being an ####### anytime anyone crossed him. The UW President was called in. he called in the Board of Trustees who called in the Governor. They ultimately decided to back Eaton's decision. This destroyed the Wyoming football program for the next decade. Eaton ended up getting fired the following year, going 1-9. The ASUW (student senate) purchased and placed a memorial in the UW student union probably 6 or 8 years ago. A couple of the Black 14 members came to campus and spoke then. This fall was the 50th anniversary of the event and Wyoming invited all of them to Laramie to be recognized. I think all but one was able to make it. I was able to attend the event. There was a lot of reconciliation happening and this was truly a great event, and might I say long over due.

The Raven's game might put the Bills in a situation requiring Allen to throw more than he has just to stay in the game. If the Bills D limits the Ravens from scoring, however, you can be sure Daboll will be using as much clock as he can on offense to keep the Baltimore O off the field and limit the Raven's possessions. Personally, I don't think we want to get into a shootout with Baltimore.

Late 4th quarter drive for the game winning TD, Allen to Beasley!

Allen kills it on 3rd and less than one. It's that 1.1 - 3 where the Bills struggle. Power formation doesn't bring much power. I think we should spread it out and let Gore or Singletary find the crease.

I was actually looking forward to VanderEsch. He played opposite Josh (at Boise State). They split Josh's two years. This would have been the rubber match.

Played his freshman year at Wyo, then transferred to TCU.

Any of you just hear Mike's call into Jim Rome? Said something about being a proud Bill's fan, how excited he is for the team and its' progress, looking forward to Dallas, thinks the Bills only have to win one more game to make the playoffs, etc. All good, right? And then Mike goes onto say that he thinks the Bills should sit Allen and many of their other starters the following week when the Ravens come to Buffalo. It's not worth risking injury, yadda, yadda, yadda.

If I had first pick of a QB, I 'd pick Wilson and I wouldn't even have to think about it.

Perhaps the main reason I really didn't want Josh to go to Denver. That and if Elway drafted him, he probably still be sitting the bench.

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