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1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:
Rapp is Safety 1 at the moment .. I don’t think that 5 th rounder is beating him out …at least not until Week 6 anyway ..If Rapp doesn't get suspended for a head shot before then.
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19 minutes ago, FireChans said:
This is a terrible plan.
Not only has Beane never had a draft where more than 3 guys have “seriously” contributed day one, but to bank on the draft as a “plan” when picking late in rounds and having lots of day 3 picks is just awful when you know it’s a complete crapshoot.We currently have 1 starting safety on the roster. Why? Because every safety that Beane and co. drafted in their tenure here has sucked.
All those day three picks should be fighting with Hollins, Morrow, Lewis, Rapp, etc for jobs.
Just now, gonzo1105 said:I don’t believe we’ll be better per se but I think we’ll be about the same. 12-5 or 11-6
So you lose Morse, Poyer, Hyde, White, Floyd, Davis and that equals better? Those guys must have sucked.
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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
First of all, I love what Beane is doing as we move into the beginning of the new league year right now. Release the old and expensive players and retain a few valuable pieces. All of this in order to get our CAP situation in order moving into future season. Meanwhile, he's accrued 11 total draft picks as ammunition to go get the guys that he wants. We aren't drafting 11 guys and you can bet we'll be trading around in the draft to end up with between 7-9 players. Hopefully 5 or 6 of them turn into SERIOUS contributors in 2024. The Bills have two picks in the first 3 rounds. I would not expect that much from late round picks.
But honestly, even without the draft and at a snapshot moment in Free Agency when all the Bills have done is re-sign Jones, Epenesa and Lewis and signed Morrow and Hollins, I think the 2024 Buffalo Bills are set up to be a better team than in 2023. In what world does adding Morrow and Hollins while losing the long list of guys = better? I am worried about of coaching staff if we had all these starters that were actually hurting the team.
Coaching
First of all, the Bills revamped their coaching staff almost completely. They got a lot younger, so some fresh perspectives are likely coming into the fold. On top of that Joe Brady will have an ENTIRE offseason to build and implement his own offense in Buffalo rather than using Dorsey's offense. Our OC and DC are young and energetic and infectious by reports from all the players and media. And what's more, McDermott will still be able to help Babbich grow where he needs to while focusing on more aspects of the team than he was able to last year. Again the premise is bring in younger less experienced guys and that equals better? Can happen but should not be the assumption.
Special Teams
Bass had the worst year of his career last year, but was a consistent kicker before that. I don't think he goes anywhere but up... and bringing Haack in to (possibly????) compete for the punting job might be a sign Beane & Co. believe holding is a notable part of the problem. And maybe it was???? Remember how bad a holder Bojo was and what happened to the Packers kicking game when he went over there as the punter? If Haack's our punter... he's not a great punter, but hopefully we don't punt a lot
Returners are a dime a dozen to me and we have potential returners in Shakir, Isabella and Hamler already on the roster. I'm sure we'll bring someone else in, too. Agree Bass could be better.
Offense
OL-First of all, 4 out of 5 pieces on our OL will be back. And the 1 new piece might end up being a familiar face who played a big role on the team last year. The Bills clearly believe in McGovern as a Center, so I'll trust their judgment. If Edwards is the LG next to him, I'm fine with that, too. He was the starting Guard for the Super Bowl champions a few years ago so he has the talent and experience. Alec Anderson seems like a dark horse to come in and start at that position, though. We'll still very likely draft a young IOL, though. Plenty of other young developmental OL talent to be excited about with the likes of Van Demark and Gourage. and then we'll have what I believe will be one of the best right sides of an offensive line in the NFL with Torrence and Spencer Brown next year. And Dawkins gonna be Dawkins. As far as the IOL moves, I was listening to Daniel Jeremiah on his Move the Sticks podcast yesterday and he was saying how he spoke with Brandon Beane relatively recently about OL and Beane was talking about how it's becoming more and more important to have a more stout, strong IOL nowadays than more of an athletic IOL with what's happening on the defensive side with DTs. I thought it was interesting and seems like that might be a reason for the Morse release and move for McGovern. Its technically a change at C and G so 2 changes to the OL. Not overly worried but lets hope the loss of Morse is not more impactful than they are betting on.
QB-See above about Joe Brady. Otherwise, not much needs to be said here. Let's just hope that our freak QB stays healthy this year and doesn't get injuries that affects his throwing motion the way he did the last 2 seasons. If he has to sit for a week or 2, I think we should all feel a little better with Trubisky than Kyle Allen. If Allen is out who cares, we are in trouble.
WR-See above about Joe Brady. I think Diggs was hurt in the 2nd half of the season. I don't know what game that was where he was thrown to the ground, but I think he was playing hurt for awhile. Yes, he's getting older, but Diggs is still a #1 WR. He just needs more talent around him, and with Shakir's development last year, we'll likely see him as a bigger part of the offense. I really think either Isabella or Hamler makes this roster. I don't know which one, but one of them is going to be our 4th or 5th WR/gadget guy/ returner. Mack Hollins feels like a roster bubble guy. Justin Shorter might be the guy to replace Siran Neal as the gunner and will be sitting in the 5th or 6th WR spot. So a lot depends on who we draft at WR. And I think everyone knows we're drafting a WR in round 1 or 2. Whoever it is, let's hope he's better than Gabe. Long term I think odds are he will be. Without another legit WR we are in trouble. It will be more of what we saw late last year. If Brady can fix the route concepts and play design that could help. But there is a weird thought that with Brady will fix everything, even though he has been here and had a voice for some time now. I doubt he was worthy of being OC but prior to that completely ignored.
TE-A healthy Dawson Knox and a year 2 Dalton Kincaid with an entire offseason to work on his game???? Sign me up!!! This should be a good spot. They need to get Kincaid downfield more.
RB-We all saw the weapon James Cook can be. Dude just needs to spend plenty of time on the Jugs machine. RBs are a dime a dozen... we'll find a couple to fill roles and be just fine. Make or break year for Cook to separate himself as the starting back. He had flashes last year but still left a lot out there.
Defense
admittedly D is our biggest worry. But I think we have less to worry about than feared.
DE-Groot was hampered by a foot injury most of last year, which was obvious. Von was clearly still recovering from his ACL tear, which was obvious. I expect both to be better in 2024. I don't really understand those who think Von just all of the sudden sucks. He had an ACL tear and tried coming back to play full time less than a year after it happened. Most athletes say they take a couple years to feel like themselves after an ACL tear. Just ask Tre White. Epenesa re-signing is exciting! If he takes another step in 2025 then our top 3 rotational edge rushers would be an upgrade from last year even with Floyd leaving. I almost anticipate Lawson coming back, but even if he didn't and Jonathan and Kline were our 4th an 5th DEs, that would still be pretty solid depth. Big if is if Von can resemble some form of his old self. Reality is he is 34 years old. Groot and AJE are solid but neither have shown anything close to being a dominant player. This could be a huge weakness for the team.DT- Oliver and Jones is a lethal duo. Just getting Jones back and healthy for a full season will be an upgrade. And Jones has been pretty healthy for his career up until this past year. I don't think he missed a regular season game in the previous 5-7 seasons. But that's it for DTs other than Ankou, who frankly might make the team and just might be an upgrade on Settle/Ford/Phillips. But we're going to draft at least one and acquire one... maybe post June 1st as our late offseason Floyd signing. But it's all about Oliver and Jones, really. We didn't have Daquan most of last season. If we do in 2024, that's an upgrade. Expect a couple more vets here, but solid group.
LB-Everything I said above about Daquan Jones and what the impact would be in getting him back is amplified with all of the same stuff for Milano. Losing Milano last year was the most devastating thing that happened to our team. He was absolutely unbelievable to start the year. His injury isn't the kind of injury that lingers once he rehabs and heals, so I'd expect him to be back to himself. Top that off with the now-known-commodity of Terrel Bernard and we might have the best starting duo of LBs in the league. Throw in Dorian Williams, who I believe will be used as an X-factor in a league that is shifting more and more towards 3 LB alignments because of the heavier personnel and the LB Unit will already be better in 2024.Should be at least an average unit. Best in the league dont know about that...
CB-Our starting CBs are pretty much all studs. Taron, Rasul and Benford are all really good to exceptional. I really do think Elam still has a decent shot with this new coaching staff and potentially new (maybe only slightly) system that will utilize some more man principles. I wouldn't sleep on him finding a way into a significant or even starting role. When he does get on the field, he makes plays. We'll draft a CB or 2. We always do. The difference will be that there will be room on the roster for them to actually make the team rather than get poached by other teams the way Alex Austin or Nick McLeod were. And don't sleep on the 2 guys on our PS. Ingram might make the team to play a critical backup role. Taron and Douglas are solid. Benford is a fringe starter and Elam is fighting to play on game day. We lack speed an depth.
S-Personnel-wise, this is likely the position we have to worry about the most. But at the same time, Sean McDermott throughout his entire career has always turned other teams' trash into his treasure when it comes to the Safety position. From the Eagles to the Panthers to the Bills, you can go and track all the safeties that have come through those teams and find quality to elite contributors. It's actually pretty insane the way he does it. I expect he does it again. We'll likely get a guy in FA and draft a guy, but I'm really not gonna be shocked if our starting Safety tandem is Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis. Everyone is going to freak out if that happens. I won't. McDermott knows the safety position better than anyone. I don't even think that's hyperbole. We'll be good. We have Rapp who is a lower level starter and nobody. People keep saying not to worry but anyone remember what happened the prior year when Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson along with Neal, Lewis, Marlowe etc.
Now... am I predicting Super Bowl???? Heck no!!! Too many variables always come into play and the playoffs are one-and-done so you just never know. However, the widespread national narrative and narrative among some on this board is that Buffalo's Super Bowl Window is closed and what we're seeing this offseason is the start of a rebuild. Reality is without additional moves or rookie draft picks that pan out we have taken a step back this year. Just the reality unless you play the addition by subtraction game and again that would mean our coaches are that clueless and we trust them to be better with less?
Not a rebuild folks, We're re-tooling. And the tools we'll have in 2024 will be sharper, shinier and more effective!!! I can't wait to see who else we add in FA. I can't wait to see who we draft, but outside of the positions we just need to bring in some bodies to fill them (RB, DT, & S), I'd feel pretty good about where we are even at this moment. The great thing is that we still have additions coming. We need to retool. We have not retooled. We brought back one starter in Jones and a few mid to bottom of the roster players. Plus added a couple guys that may not even make the final roster.
It's gonna be a great 2024 season!!! Go Bills!!!
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Well it should be obvious to Bills fans - covering two receivers is much harder than one. Having two legit guys to guard drastically changes what the D can do against. Huge overpay but can do that when you have the cash.
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2 minutes ago, mrags said:
Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved.
So many people don’t see this. How many games would have turned out different if all of our $2-4m guys that played essentially no snaps were replaced by min salary guys. My guess is 0 impact. But you add even one legit player like Hopkins last year and that gets you a few wins.
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Will B Gay is solid. Seems like a cheap deal.
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Never learn
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2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
I doubt it but think Beane knows this a critical year and can't make big cap mistakes so he's going bargain shopping.
If they take a step back McD will throw beane under the bus.
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1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Beane has no money, either in daylight or dark.
If there really has no money it makes no sense to have prioritized the signings they have made or leaving almost $10m on the table with Josh.
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1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Is that an undeposited check from Josh Allen for $8m in that wallet?
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
Yeah and I was hoping the likes of Rapp and Lewis and Morrow would be filled in by those cheap draft picks, not veteran contracts. Obviously the entire depth of the roster isn't going to be just rookies but can't these sorts of signings wait until we know what our draft class looks like?
Not to mention how often these don’t make the roster but cost from $500k to $1m in cap hits anyway.
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8 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Snead is a Top 5 corner.
Prior to him ascending, they had Tyreek Hill.
They’ve always had four elite guys. Even if you want to go with three… what’s your point? That they have 3 to our 1?
(Dont you dare say Diggs)
But we have like 30-40 Cam Lewis’s where they have a bunch of rookies and castoffs. How has that worked for them? Oh wait.
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Bills sign Klein or Mata - great moves they know the system and are McD guys. Better than what else you can get on the market.
Bills sign scrub #1 - great move and better than Klein and Mata. Those guys are awful and should not be in the league.
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Name an offseason they did not sign multiple DL?
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Just now, BBFL said:
I like Pittsburgh and they fact they are always trying to be a contender and never settle but at some point they have to realise the problem is their offense and need to apply the appropriate finances on that side of the ball.
You look at what they can do with no talent and they become scary when they have some pieces.
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Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Sorry, can u tell me who we have lost that matters? Hyde was retiring no matter what. Poyer was bad. We all knew Davis was gone. I wish Epenesa was gone too.
Can u explain how this is a rebuild when the vast majority of the core players are still here??
The team has lost 6 starters - C, WR, FS, SS, Edge, and CB. That is a lot to lose in one season. It doesn't matter if they were expected to be gone or not. Some have a plan to replace and some do not. But if the guys that are gone are no big deal why were they starting on a super bowl contender?
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25 minutes ago, Draconator said:
Glad this is not the Bills doing this.
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Just now, WMDman said:
Idk I’ll call beane and let you know!
Can you let me know in the next hour or so? Running into some meetings and would like a heads up.
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Question I have is Beane trying to sign anyone right now? Were we talking to any of these RB's or other guys that signed? Are we talking to guys right now or are we just playing the waiting game. The way they handled the Allen restrux makes me think they are ok just resigning a few of their own, adding late free agents and the draft. Hoping that I am wrong and we can at least add a legit WR, S or DL.
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5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
You still need to pass to win.
Jackson threw for more yards vs KC in the playoffs than Allen did.
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Ravens will be better with Henry. Cannot question that.
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Roster changes thus far. Starters are bolded.
Added:
QB Trubisky
P Haack
Gone or Possibly Gone:
C Morse
WR Davis
Edge Floyd
S Poyer
S Hyde
CB White
WR Sherfield
WR Harty
RB Murray
RB Harris
RB Johnson
OG Bates
QB Allen
RB Hines
DL Lawson
DL Ford
DL Joseph
DL Settle
DL Phillips
LB Matakevich
S Neal
CB Jackson
LB Dodson
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So Bates 4/$64M beats out Edmunds 4/$72M? Edmunds is paid higher at his position than Bates in relation to other guys signed. Very odd how NFL is making these decisions.
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The Bills will be better in 2024 and everyone overreacted
in The Stadium Wall
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I like the concept but who is faster and younger? Lewis and Rapp have been here and are not faster or better. Younger ok. Like it or not Davis our #2 and has yet to be replaced. We did bring in 30 year old Hollins who is not faster or younger. But again I like the concept of younger and faster.