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60 - Mitchelll, Franklin, McMillan
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Polk. That sucks.
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This was most common name for the do not draft. I would have preferred Mitchell or even Polk. Hopefully we get another wr high because this pick may bust. Elam vs Benford type situation.
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Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:
“The Buffalo Bills open Round 2 with the 33rd selection and I’m told they are considering two receivers - Adonai Mitchell and Keon Coleman. The team will entertain offers to move down, as other franchises have been calling with the hopes of trading up for Cooper DeJean, Kool-Aid McKinstry or Jer'Zhan Newton. I’m told the Bills have at least two additional receivers highly rated on their board after Mitchell and Coleman and would be comfortable trading down for the right offer.”
Depends how they rate Mitchell, Coleman, Franklin, Polk, McConkey. If not a huge difference I would bundle to get an extra 2nd rather than adding more 4-7th rounders.
WSH has been mentioned with its multiple 2nds. So could try to get 36 and 40 but will cost pick 33 and 60 and a couple later rounds. So Bills have 36, 40 and 95.
AZ has three thirds - maybe you can get one or both the early ones for trading down. You can offer 33, 95 plus a later pick for 35 and 66. So Bills have 35, 60 and 66.
Not sure I move much further down than that.
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6 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:
Only way I'd trade 33 is if we fleece someone to move WAY up from 60 as well. Too many solid projected starters at positions of need to drop more than 3-4 down.
We need 1 or even 2 starting/contributing WR's. If we can trade down and get 2 in the 2nd round maybe. Otherwise we need a starting WR at 33. That guy seems like Mitchell.
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6 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
I see a lot of Copper Kupp in McConkey. They play very similar games.
Kupp produced in college. Dude had like 30 games with over 100 yds and multiple 200+ games. McConkey has like 2 100 yards games...
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Why do so many people say McConkey has a high floor? He has injury concerns, production concerns and size concerns. I dont see that as high floor. I could see him barely seeing the field in the NFL. Maybe I am wrong on him, just never been impressed. Seems like a solid dude that works hard but not a guy that will translate to the nfl unless in the right system.
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3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
I had suspected that with Diggs around, he was dictating where the ball had to go. The other team would triple Diggs on 3rd down and Allen would jam the ball in there anyway and he would drop it or get defended because EVERYONE knew it was going there and the Bills punt and I'm cursing at the screen about "well don't throw it THERE." It was different from when Allen wasn't yes established and/or he was making the grabs, but it just got too predictable. Being less rote as to where the defense needs to key in critical situations - I wouldn't be at all surprised if overall efficiency of the Bills offense improves for the absence of Diggs in that instance.
I get this logic and I dont. Its the OC's job to get guys open and QB job to make the right read. If Allen is throwing in triple coverage he is making the wrong read because someone else is open. If Diggs is always double and triple covered then the OC is failing. You dont have a Diggs there is no reason to triple anyone and its easier to defend everyone on the field.
By the logic of you dont want a guy that demands the ball no team should want any dominant receiver and obviously that is not the case. WR's are getting paid because that is what you need in the NFL to win. Before someone says well KC - they are clearly trying to add WR's and doing it with early picks and free agent $.
A better take is Diggs was not the player he used to be and the Bills need to upgrade. Not they dont need him and are better with a bunch of average guys and no star WR.
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8 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
I don't disagree. I'm not advocating to replace them with Sherfield and Shorter, haha. But I also don't think it's as dire as Bill Mafia in general seem to think. The Bills were winning without a lot of help from Davis at X and Diggs at Z, simply upgrading those roles to something near average should be a boon to the offense - similar to upgrading the guards from "disaster" to "ok" did for the OL last year. Samuel might be an average Z for the Bills which leaves X. Remember when Davis got a game ball for a 0 catch performance against iirc Dallas, for his blocking? Is that something that's supposed to be hard to replace? I'd be pleased with literally anyone who can block near as well and at least run the right route so the ball doesn't go flying to where he was supposed to be for a pick.
Winning without (guy did not have a lot of stats) is different than winning without (not on the field). Diggs took attention and teams planned around defending him. With him gone its easier to defend other guys. A TE benefits from teams having a stud WR because the S help goes that direction instead of helping with a TE. The less weapons period hurts everyone.
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6 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
I wan both. Mitchell at 33, Ladd at 37ish (pick 60, a 5th and a 3rd next year, or something along those lines)
I will take Mitchell and McCaffrey later.
13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:And the Bills seems to like him. Whats his upside as you see it ?
I think he can be an above average S or zone CB. Maybe a really good one. If we are talking about him in 3rd or 4th and we already have a WR I am fine with it. But I dont know if he starts over Rapp or Edwards next year and is not playing over Johnson.
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4 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
I'm warming up to McConkey, probably because I think his tape is just so much better than Franklin, Mitchell and Coleman. Doesn't help the deep ball, but maybe they can find someone later on that can push the safeties back.
We have Shakir and Samuel. I dont think the WR gets better with McConkey. We need Mitchell, Polk or Franklin .
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3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:
Why not Cooper ?
1) Using our top pick on a DB
2) I think he lacks some physical attributes (quickness, arm length, height) that will hurt him in the NFL game
3) He played some bad QB's and offenses which make his tape look better
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No to DeJean or McConkey.
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Hard to argue the Bills are not well behind all the teams below in TE/WR core.
Bills: Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir
BAL: Andrews, Flowers, Bateman
CIN: Gesicki, Chase, Higgins
CLE: Njoku, Cooper, Moore, Jeudy
HOU: Schultz, Diggs, Dell, Collins/Brown/Woods
JAC: Engram, Kirk, Davis, Thomas Jr.
KC: Kelce, Rice, Brown, Worthy
MIA: Smith, Hill, Waddle
NYJ: Conklin, Wilson, Williams
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10 hours ago, LabattBlue said:
Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what?
Beane knows this trend in WR pay is going to reverse by then because he is a wizard.
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Well if Worthy or Legette are hits then this is a fireable offense.
Based on what we saw the Bills could have moved up to jump for Thomas. So that would be some egg on the face.
In what the consensus says is the best WR draft in years. When the Bills need a WR and you end the first without one. I don’t know how that is a good thing.
I only feel better if Mitchell is their guy and they grab him at 33.-
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The Bills and McD continue to think they are the smartest people in the room. To me if Worthy turns into a stud (mahomes 2.0) it’s the final straw. We know better than everybody else because we have made the playoffs meanwhile sf and kc are repeat Super Bowl or at least champ week. But we make these mind boggling moves. Trade up for the 2nd best te but make a move in possibly one of the best wr drafts. We are smart yet I guess..,
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Daboll with the fu to McD
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Hopefully drake maye = Mac jones
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Please no Ladd. Just don’t see him being good in the nfl.
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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Fill out the WR corps with a 1st round pick and a guy like Javon Baker in the later rounds and get us a short yardage back like Estime and it's a 12+ win team.
I agree - add a legit WR and it adds 2-3 wins to the expectations.
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33 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
So... let's see how our roster improves starting tonight. I said I think the Bills will be better this upcoming season... I still think they will.
As of this moment, just hours before the draft, this is how I view the Buffalo Bills roster at the moment.
And yes, we can field a 53 man team that consists of zero guys I'd strictly put in the "Practice Squad" category.
LOCKS
Close to locks
Baseline rosterable depth
Players the team seems somehow invested in
STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH
QB Josh Allen Mitchell Trubisky Shane Buechele
RB James Cook Ty Johnson Darrynton Evans-
WR Khalil Shakir Justin Shorter Tyrell Shavers
WR Curtis Samuel Andy Isabella Bryan Thompson
WR Mack Hollins KJ Hamler
TE Dalton Kincaid Dawson Knox Quintin Morris Tre' McKitty
FB Reggie Gilliam
LT Dion Dawkins Ryan Van Demark Richard Gouraige
LG David Edwards Alec Anderson
C Connor McGovern Will Clapp
RG O'Cyrus Torrence Kevin Jarvis
RT Spencer Brown La'el Collins Tommy Doyle
STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH
LDE Greg Rousseau Kameron Cline
LDT DaQuan Jones Austin Johnson Eli Ankou
RDT Ed Oliver DeShawn Williams
RDE Von Miller AJ Epenesa Casey Toohill Kingsley Jonathan
WLB Matt Milano
MLB Terrel Bernard Baylon Spector
SLB Nicholas Morrow Dorian Williams
LCB Rasul Douglas Kaiir Elam Kyron Brown
SS Taylor Rapp Kendall Williamson
FS Mike Edwards Cam Lewis Damar Hamlin
RCB Christian Benford Taron Johnson Ja'Marcus Ingram
STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH
PK Tyler Bass
P Sam Martin Matt Haack
H Sam Martin Matt Haack
PR Khalil Shakir
KR Khalil Shakir Andy Isabella
LS Reid Ferguson
53 man roster
34 LOCKS
10 close to locks
4 baseline rosterable depth
5 Players the team seems somehow invested in
That is a solid 9-8 team
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If you got a guy like Aiyuk as a plan a or plan b - then you can sit back at 28. If you get to 28 and all the names are gone you make the trade for Aiyuk and the swap is more of a sure thing for the much higher price tag. If you dont have an Aiyuk or similar for a back up plan you do whatever it takes to move up if needed to get your guy.
Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State
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Man. We are gonna regret not getting ad.