RochesterRob

I don't find your analogy very apt. How do you arrive at 500 lbs for what you presumably are saying is the US. Who is the 250 lb guy. What does China weigh in your analogy? Some people carry a lot of weight well while others that are moderately overweight can be at extreme risk for diabetes and heart disease. How old is this analogy you are spouting? Does it presume that all kinds of smoke stacks are belching pollutants into the air circa 1940? What is your take on cadmium as a point source pollution? Do you presume that mercury and lead find their way into water sources in other countries? The 250 lb guy might die a lot sooner if he has considerable exposure to such elements.

How many times have you crapped your pants over this during this morning? How do you prove that any leaks actually influenced the 2016 election?

Not hyperbole. People being forced to pay dramatically increased taxes will create hardship. Most of America is not highly affluent. Americans if forced to shoulder such an initiative will have to make personal cuts that will be painful. You offer nothing as a counter point to what I stated but yet you claim people are not serious about discussing how a 100 trillion dollar initiative over 10 years will be paid for.

People paying the taxes to pay for these environmental initiatives leaving them less money for their own expenses. Trying to live on the amount of calories needed to sustain a sparrow. Running the thermostat at 45 degrees F during the winter or 87 degrees during the summer because you can't afford to pay enough to live comfortably. The other possibility is the government runs the printing presses to pay for the environmental initiatives bringing on crippling inflation to consumers.

What is real world math? The kind of math that says trying a major economic shift for environmental concerns to the tune of 100 trillion dollars in approximately a decade will not work without extreme suffering for many.

It will happen at some point but probably after those of us who remember Fergy, Smerlas, JD Hill, Cribbs, etc. are too old to care. During the 19th Century it was about finding land to farm after leaving Europe. During the early 20th Century it was about farming without working yourself to death. During the mid-20th Century it was about getting a union job at a factory to work less hours than on the farm. From the 1960's to 1970's it was about getting a 4 year degree to work in an office or academic institution for more pay than a menial labor job. During the 1980's and 1990's it was about getting a master's degree to show value to an employer even though you may not use quite a bit of your learning. Some got their master's just to hang on during the endless layoffs during that time. From the late 1990's onward it was about having a doctorate and expecting to use a lot of the material learned just to have a job that would pay for a house the size great grandpa would have built with his hands for 1,000-2,000 dollars back 100 years ago. People have spent the last 150 years trying to get ahead of the rat race only to find the rat has been gaining ground on them over time. The gimmicks have just about been all used up to get ahead of the curve. Doctors giving up practices or retiring early because malpractice insurance was eating them up. The argument in part against socialism was it is dangerous to have a large part of a population have idle hands but we are going to find out at some point if this is in fact true.

Even though the media is her friend Hillary realizes that the longer her name is not spoken to the public the better it is for her. Also, she become more palatable to Democrats as the others lose their appeal in the light of day.

I don't know that not having MASH makes him a cretin. MASH was one of those programs that goes down great as an idealistic kid but as one sees how the world really is realizes MASH is utter fantasy. The better moralizing program is Quincy, ME and even he gets away with a fair amount that a real official would not get away with.

1960's - As a child. First memory of any prime time program was the first rebroadcast of Star Trek "The Corbomite Maneuver." Balok scared the crap out of me as a pre-schooler. The Andy Griffith Show. I Love Lucy reruns. Batman late in the series' run. 1970's - Watched a lot of non-kid programming even though I was a kid. The Bob Newhart Show. Mary Tyler Moore. All in the Family. Afternoon programming of Gilligan's Island, The Brady Bunch, The Flintstones. Gomer Pyle. 1980's - College and work occupied a lot of my time. Family Ties, Hill Street Blues, St Elsewhere, and Newhart. 1990's - Seinfeld, The Simpson's, ST-TNG. 2000's - 24. The Big Bang Theory. I liked Baa Baa Black Sheep. At that point of time school was fairly easy for me and not a lot was expected in terms helping out so I had a fair amount of time for television. We did not live close to anything then so a lot of evenings were spent at home.

The DNC and NWO are getting cranky about the use of intellectual property (such as it is) with out proper credit. Tibs is to be referred as Soros puppet or Bernie bot (until Hillsry steps out of the shadows).

Marianne Hill who was Elvis' girlfriend. She did quite a bit of 1960's television appearing in Star Trek as well as other shows as well as doing movies.

I'll go one step further and say this is being done for the benefit of Hillary who is waiting for a "break glass in case of emergency" moment when the poll numbers of the other contenders slips into the mud.

We had one a couple years ago that if there were no trees on the west side of the house the damage to my home would have been major. The cat was outside during that storm and fortunately she was not hurt even running from under the pickup to the house. No, I did not call her out from under the pickup. The noise against the metal box flipped her out.

Today's young Democrats don't want a fossil like Biden even if he tows a hard left line. They can find the same policy outlook in a candidate that is less than 1/3 the age of Biden. This is not the Democratic Party of the 1980's inhabited by a number of center-right candidates marching under the party banner which made leftist candidates scarce.

Had to get back against Trump AKA the Man somehow. This afternoon Pelosi, Schumer, Democratic nominee hopefuls will proclaim their renewed faith in justice based on the dropped charges after the events of the past weekend.

Baggage as far as defending the proposal or that a candidate has family history as slave owners?

Quite a bit of the old money was founded in Buffalo versus wealthy being summertime migrants. I remember it said during the late 1960's that the aggregate was estimated to be well above 10 billion dollars. The South never took off because it was too far removed from the necessary raw materials commonly needed during the heat of the Industrial Revolution. Iron, nickel, and coal all resided in the North. Had hyrdoelectric power been a priority before the New Deal maybe the South would have been more active in manufacturing earlier. But still the cost of transporting heavy raw materials remained and plastics were not a factor before WWII. Certain crops such as wheat due to their nature would always perform better in a comparatively cooler climate such as the upper Midwest.

In the early days of the canal most wheat went by barge when it was grown in towns such as Wheatfield (Buffalo) and Wheatland (Rochester, NY). After the Civil War the largest volume of wheat was from the Midwest. So it went by ship on the Great Lakes or by rail hugging the southern shores of Lake Michigan and Lake Erie onward to Buffalo. Thanks to the rough terrain of the Appalachians commercial traffic went through Buffalo for the most economical passage.

Buffalo also shot ahead of the others in terms of overall population. Buffalo due to hydroelectric power was a major manufacturing center for a number of decades starting in the very late 19th Century. Too bad many hard lessons had to be learned here in terms of pollution. Yep, Buffalo was the focal point for railing grain from the Midwest to Albany and NYC and then onward out of the country.

Chuck Clod (Todd) still hosting?

What didn't the Romans do? The rest of the Mediterranean wants reparations for the wayward DNA spreading of Mark Antony.

Kraft brought Tibs a huge basket of "stained" towels today.

And yet they would never fathom a bartender from Queens who spouts communist propaganda as being under the influence of a foreign power.

His descendants were more than payed in full via white privilege during the 20th Century. Funny thing is that cotton got dirt cheap once mechanization took full root in the cotton belt. Had slavery and the advent of the farm tractor truly intersected in time the slave owners would have faced the conundrum of what to do with all the excess labor.

The reparations crowd would argue that "debt" was paid in full via white privilege during the 20th Century. Further, these loons believe that every town had a secret society that existed for the promotion of whites even if they did not have a mission to oppress minorities. But it all boils down to who they expect will actually be writing the checks which is why they are not even interested in Great Britain's role as the mother nation watching slavery take root here centuries ago.