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Is it? Is he hosting a live show that charges a subscription fee and sells multi-million dollar sponsorships? And is his show able to generate millions of dollars due to the popularity of the league and brand in question? I like McAfee and his show. There's no chance he's a millionaire if his audience wasn't pulled from the audience the NFL created. He adds value, he's funny. But he's not the NFL, and so he doesn't have the right to use their trademarks in the creation of content that he charges for. Unless he pays for that right.

Oh boy. That's not at all what I've said, twice now. Maybe you should DM McAfee and offer to represent him in a Fair Use case against the NFL?

No, this is the part where if I'm wrong Pat McAfee gets to use NFL team logos without having to pay any fees.

I always think of this play when I think of Hines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndxPl1s84dk

I was absolutely going to joke that this was for Zack Moss and a 5th.

With all due respect, you are incorrect sir.

Too late, they won the Super Bowl week 3.

I didn't say being an entertainment show excludes you from Fair Use. I said entertainment shows don't have the same Fair Use rights as news shows. And his content is monetized, and the more views he draws the more money he makes. So using other companies' logos to make graphics for his is show is something he has pay for. He in fact is competing against the NFL Network for views, and the more views he pulls away from the NFL Network the less money they can charge their advertisers.

I think he took his helmet off after Wash called T.O. So that might account for the difference. Scary Terry sees the refs wave TO. No penalty during a TO break for adjusting your equipment?

The way McAfee was using trademarked logos to create original monetized content doesn't fall under Fair Use, and he's not a news organization. News channels have different rights under Fair Use than entertainment shows. And you're right, the NFL could issue a cease and desist to any content creator using NFL logos. I received one of those letters from the Bills legal team that forced a now defunct Bills fan site to change its name and stop using the Bills logo a long time ago.

Exactly, but in the segment where they told the audience that they couldn't use logos in graphics they took every helmet, poster, trinket off their desks that included a team logo. It was kind of funny. And to the original point, the 4 million was for highlight footage. They didn't say how much it would cost for logo use. It might be way less than the cost of the highlights. But it wasn't included in the highlights fee.

No, they are over reacting, and it was kind of funny up to a point. They were told they can't use trademarked NFL logos, including team logos, in original graphic content they create for the show. That doesn't mean they have to remove the helmets from their desks. In film and TV clearance there's a standard of fair use where you can use a logo or trademark if the product is being used in the way it was intended, and you don't disparage the brand. Like in scenes in bars where people order a beer, you don't have to blur out the Budweiser or whatever, and when you see that that happen it's usually bc the brand didn't pay a product placement fee (or they have a deal with a different brand). But you can't take branded logos and make original videos that you have monetized. Pat generates his money from his views, and he can't use other people's branded logos to make content that is monetized. It's that simple. Having memorabilia on their desk isn't a violation since the memorabilia is being used in it's intended purpose.

I'd say he's more like adding a Beasley type possession wr. Mooney is like the Jon Brown speedster, so now they need a true #1, and a much improved OLine.

That could be true, I guess I took his comments to mean he has insider info. But you're right, he may have just meant staying all positive vs focusing on potentially negative stories. I'm still not sure he wants to make those kinds of threats. He has a lot more to lose (his footage deal) than the NFL does.

McAfee is the one being short sighted threatening to disclose NFL secrets about CTE in retaliation for having the logos pulled. And if he knows of liability around CTE and has kept his mouth shut, but is threatening to damage the NFL over a logo despite, I don't know how he looks like a good guy.

As someone who deals with licensing, and branding everyday in my line of work I actually think Pat is in the wrong here. Being able to use NFL team logos in content you generate for your show isn't the same thing as paying a licensing fee for footage. The deals that the networks pay to show games and highlights is orders of magnitude more than what Pat is paying for highlights, and most certainly includes logo usage. How much do you think the NFL would charge for you to put team logos on shirts and sell them? And do you think you would be able to do that if you paid a licensing fee for highlight footage? When Pat's show uses team logos in the graphics they generate, it's original content that they are creating for a show that generates them millions of dollars. So there should be an additional fee for logo usage. But where I think Pat is really running into dangerous territory is when he threatened to focus on untold NFL liability due to CTE in a way to damage the NFL. If he knows about underhanded practices by the NFL and hasn't said anything bc he's profiting off of the sport, but only threatens to spill the beans when his bottom line is effected, he's looks like a slime ball imo.

Is it ok if I organize a Concern Queen Fall Ball, where concerned Bills fans of all shapes and sizes can duel it out to win the title of Concern Queen? There can be only one! 😂

You know, I didn't have the kind of dad that taught very many life lessons. But one thing he did sit me down to talk about at a very early age was why I should never, ever ever ever bet on the Buffalo Bills. True story.

Absolutely. If you can hold a Josh Allen offense to 3 or 6 points you have a hell of a shot of winning.

Except no way Wilson makes the two throws throws that Aaron Rodgers made to score their only TD's. So maybe they score 6-9 points playing like GB did? If they hold the Bills to 3 points total I think they have a great shot of winning.

I added him to the Ignore list.

Yeah, 17 points all game. The Bills. They scored 24 points, In the first half. PS how many points did the Packers score on their 28 runs? ZERO POINT ZERO MR BLUTARSKI!

The status of Poyer's elbow is the only thing to be concerned about after that game.

Here's some criticism for you buddy. Your whole dissertation has been to declare the Bills defensive strategy was a failure for allowing the Packers to run. They should have put in heavier packages and made the Packers throw. But the Packers scored 0.0 points running, and they scored 14 points passing. So maybe you aren't as smart as you think you are, since you wanted the Packers to do more of what scored and less of what didn't score.

Technological innovation certainly is a baby boomer thing these days. I can't tell you how many times I have to all my in laws to figure out how to use my phone, or log into a streaming service.