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Richard Noggin

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  1. Yards and/or catches for Samuel (I suspect they intend to use him as a featured pre-snap motion weapon, like a Harty+Diggs ZxY amalgamation). They want to feature Samuel as moving eye candy/protein while also feeding Kincaid and Cook...

     

    Shakir should be doing exactly what he did the back half of 2023, converting his moderate progression-based targets into explosive plays, and hopefully Coleman is sprinkled in on screens and slants and digs and 1:1 fades. 

  2. 11 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

     

    No way Brady participates without final edit approval baked in. That guy is NOT a "good sport" when it comes to humor/criticism. The tone and tenor will be celebratory of his accomplishments but a little critical of Brady's hyper-competitiveness. They probably won't even mention his scandals (except in passing absurdity) or pseudo-scientific/nonsense TB12 brand. 

  3. 5 hours ago, Chaos said:

    I doubt very many people who post on the board, feel as though they know better who the best offensive players to pick are, better than Brandon Beane. 
    I doubt very many people who post on the board, feel as though they know better who the best offensive players to pick are, better than Andy Reid/Chiefs. 

    I think a lot of people suspect the Chiefs know how do do things better than the Bills (based on Super Bowls won recently).   I think some of these people are concerned that the Chiefs with Worthy will have better results that the Bills with Coleman.  If they stopped to think about it, I suppose that if the Chiefs picked Coleman and the Bills picked Worthy, they would have the exact same concerns. 

    As fan who thinks there is a .000001 percent chance the NFL is scripted, I am sad going into the season afraid that the Bills are going to lose in the scripted playoffs on a Mahomes to Worthy pass.  Mocking the Bills is a pretty joyful thing for a lot of NFL fans (sometimes even Bills fans, because if you don't laugh you have to cry)

     

     

     

     

    I wish you were right. Would be a better world. But I fear "very many people...feel as though they know better" than whomever disagrees with them. In general. This board is better than most forums, to be clear. 

     

    I think fans generally wanted a speedy deep threat WR (because we don't really have that threat on the roster), and would have LOVED if we traded with KC and they took Coleman...and ultimately we took Worthy. Was even getting to the point where Worthy was the guy I wanted the Bills to draft above all others, and thought he'd be gone by 28. (Conversely, I definitely also shared some posts here the past few months proclaiming my counterintuitive optimism for Keon Coleman's prospects, given his combine gauntlet and best-in-class hands. Earlier in the winter, I was definitely concerned with Coleman's contested catch rate, lumping him in with the likes of Q Johnson and N'Keal Harry. It's been a journey.)

     

    3 hours ago, BigDingus said:

    Separation has been his biggest red flag, but there are routes where he's been very successful.

     

    He's probably not going to be someone you have running go routes, but he's been touted as a "big slot" guy. Every year, it seems like someone is the new "slot guy" for us, whether it be Kincaid last year, or Shakir before that.

     

    The video I grabbed this graphic from reviewed the last 32 players that finished in the 35% or under percentile in terms of separation in college, and only 5 players were "hits" or close to it.

     

    Those players were:

     

    1. Amon-Ra St. Brown

    2. Cooper Kupp

    3. Juju Smith-Schuster

    4. Tyler Boyd

    5. Rashee Rice

     

    He's in the 20th percentile for man coverage, 19th against press. However, he's at 80% against zone, so that's one major plus in bag already.

     

    Coleman Routes.jpg

     

    Is the color-coding on these route graphics inconsistent? Slant and Screen routes, for example, are mis-colored on both infographics, according to their own internal logic. 

  4. 55 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    It honestly all comes down to training 

     

    The training for the 40-yard dash has came down to an exact science... And you'll get more out of it with the most preparation 

     

    TO is a notorious workout warrior who has never stopped training... It makes sense he can run off 4.44 forty even at his age but when he was coming out of college the science wasn't down to a T yet

     

    I'm nowhere near the athlete I was when I was 21 years old.. but I can still go to a training facility with 20-year-old athletes and clock 20 miles an hour with a 4.48 .. now I'm not Terrell Owens age but I'm not 21

     

    But I'm not the same guy I was when I was 20 it's just I never stopped training and running

     

    Stay right where you are. McBeane's scouts are on their way. Don't panic. This is the big break you've been working for all these years.

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  5. 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said:

    This guy loves to eat..he is going to love Buffalo 

     

    We've seen this before lol (immediately thinking Kelvin Benjamin and Karlos Williams, both FSU, comps) 

     

    1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

    You know a bunch of people here compare him to Kelvin Benjamin, right?

     

    Why give them this ammo?

     

    Fortunately, there is NO way Coleman follows in Benjamin's heavy footsteps. 

     

    1 hour ago, DeltaDigital said:

    Karlos williams says “sup dawg”

     

    Just wondering where @Not at the table Karlos is? It's just sitting there on a tee. 

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  6. 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:


    I think Hyde is going to retire. I think they are comfortable with Bishop and Edwards starting while Rapp plays as the primary backup and situationally. Hamlin and Cam Lewis are depth ST players.

     

    That’s a solid 5 deep group at safety I just doubt they are going to bring in Hyde and yoyo him on snaps.

     

    Sounds to me like the Bills (and probably NFL teams in general) are waiting on Hyde's decision to either seek another NFL contract or hang 'em up for good. Beane said all but the retirement part out loud recently. He said the Bills do not yet know/are waiting to hear what Hyde has decided. WHAT Hyde is deciding on exactly, I guess, could be whether to agree to whatever modest contract number the Bills have proposed, if they've even gotten that far with his agent, versus continuing to seek more money and/or term elsewhere...but I strongly suspect it's more existential than that at this stage. My read is, like you @billsfan89, that Hyde is considering retirement...and also that the Bills would 100% welcome him back at a modest number for one more run if he decides to suit it up again in 2024. Kind of a no brainer for the team, but all contingent on the player. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, NewEra said:

    That’s nuts.  I didn’t know TO ran a 4.65.  I always saw his 40 listed at 4.45.  I guess he ran that in the nfl or after he retired.  Crazy

     

    Edit: I'll leave my initial question intact below so you can all laugh at me. Turns out Coleman only participated in positional drills at his pro day. Guess it isn't some grand conspiracy.

     

    "Who has Coleman's faster pro day 40 time? For some reason I can't find it. Big tech colluding to keep us Bills fans divided over reductive data points."

     

    Derp.

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  8. 2 hours ago, NewEra said:

    just love this kid.  ❤️ 

     

    "I don't have a life outside of football." -actual quote from our new WR. Love to see it.

     

    2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Honestly wow, learned a lot about him. He said he has no life outside of football. He sounds like a film junkie. Wants to be close with his QB. Watch film with his QB. 
     

    And he golfs a little!

     

    Josh's new little brother. We both keyed on that same quote, of course, but that whole stretch of the interview is REALLY refreshing to hear from a fairly highly drafted NFL WR. His vision for QB<>WR chemistry is so pure, so idyllic. Hope Josh is willing to grind with him on that film stuff. Would love it if all the targets and the QBs had an easier time coming together as a tribe in 2024. Allen has a clearer path to leadership this season. I hope he really goes for it. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, Lost said:

    I woulda rather ran our RB room back with Cook/Ty Johnson and using that 4th rd pick on another WR.   As it is it seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock into Coleman devolping into a #1 receiver this season and Shakir into a number 2.  Id like a little more insurance than that.

     

    Why is Shakir having to elevate to #2 when the Bills also signed Samuel? And why are those WR #s so important, but also so impossible to define? 

     

    Curtis Samuel is almost the same exact size as Stefon Diggs (but thicker), definitely faster, less productive down the field but more productive in the short and intermediate zones where Brady seems to want to operate, higher draft pick/higher perceived pedigree initially but at a lower tier of production to date, and is 4 years younger...so why isn't he a great idea for this offense? Like a MUCH cheaper but not super substantively-lesser replacement. 

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  10. 3 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

    I wish more Bills fans recognized this. The National Media I get. Diggs, Davis  Poyer, White etc were National Household names. Of course the media is going to paint our doom, especially with the love affair with Aaron Rodgers and Miami. 

     

    Us Bills fans should know better. Hyde is about to retire. Poyer being so great grabbed 2 million as a FA. White has played 10 games in 3 seasons. Davis could never put up decent #s even though he had Diggs opposite him and Allen as his QB. Morse was solid but who knows when his next concussion will happen. Diggs was the only loss the Bills are going to feel this season and quite honestly I'll take the extra 30 million in cap space moving forward. 

     

    All these guys were serious let downs in the playoffs. Of course Davis will always have the 2021 Chiefs Divisional Game. Diggs disappearing act in the playoffs wore thin. 

     

    Allen has already QB'd offenses where Cole Beasley, John Brown, Stefon Diggs, and Robert Foster (separately) had career years. Of course Gabe Davis had career games, but never really a top flight season. I think the QB can obviously work with a variety of skillsets. Imagine him with improved talent like he has in 2024? (That's right, the overall talent with Coleman, Samuel, Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, Hollins, and Shorter is an actual improvement to past years.)

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  11. Just now, Sierra Foothills said:

     

    I compared Solomon to Dumervil upthread... the reason being that both have disproportionately long arms. The tale of the tape:

     

     

     

    This deserves a noisy LFG because Solomon has legitimate traits and legitimate production from a small school that has already produced legitimate pass rushers. 

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  12. 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

    This might have been stated already somewhere but there are like 40 pages . I just heard that Keon Coleman is the 1st rookie WR to reach out to Andre Reed. That's pretty awesome and smart trying to get as many football minds to help you especially hall of famers is never a bad thing. 

    https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/buffalo-bills-hall-of-famer-andre-reed-connects-draft-pick-keon-coleman#:~:text=Coleman reached out to Bills,in the NFL and Buffalo.&text=This proactive approach speaks volumes,wearing the blue and red.

     

    Just hope this likeable, 20 year-old innocent doesn't take Reed's advice on anything OUTSIDE the scope of football lol. Reed was a dawg on the field, and I'd like guys to have access to Former Buffalo Alphas like Reed and Moulds. Reed was eventually effing AWESOME every other year, oddly, just like Moulds was. But it was SUCH a different league. I mean, look at Reed's career 59.6% catch percentage! Gold jacket! That alternating YoY success is a curious phenomenon for the franchise's first two best WRs. Stevie Johnson of all people broke that pattern, and then of course Diggs set a new paradigm in a new era. 

     

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReedAn00.htm

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoulEr00.htm

     

    (Love that Shakir is intentionally letting Eric Moulds wear him out on the field this offseason. That's where I want these guys tapping into Bills legends. On the field.)

     

    1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

    He's an incredibly likable kid, with natural charisma. Very easy to root for.

    It will be both thrilling and heartwarming if it all comes together and turns out well.

     

    Beane's comments about Coleman being "Buffalo" (anticipating how much fans will embrace him here) are intentionally the same way he framed Josh Allen for us. And I gotta be honest: he's not wrong. The kid is likeable. Can't tell you how many acquaintances who know how problematic my Bills thing is have reached out to say that Coleman is so grounded/likeable in his press conference (and usually also include how they think his little lisp is endearing fwiw).  

     

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  13. 56 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:


     

    Yea he was talking about his kid but convo was about Caleb.

     


     

    Colorado head coach Deion Sanders hopes his son, quarterback Shedeur Sanders, is selected by a team located in a warm-weather city during the 2025 NFL Draft.

     

    The topic came up as the Colorado coach was discussing USC quarterback Caleb Williams, whom the Chicago Bears are projected to select with the No. 1 pick of the 2024 draft.

     

    Sanders said he had "a problem" with Williams, who spent the past two seasons in the Los Angeles area, adjusting to playing professionally in the Windy City.

     

    "A kid that's coming from California for the last couple years, right? And went to Oklahoma. That's not terribly cold. Chicago's cold, man," Sanders told Russo. "You gotta think about that kind of stuff when you're taking a young man."

     

    https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10113180-colorados-deion-sanders-i-dont-want-shedeur-going-nowhere-cold-in-nfl.amp.html
     

     

     

    Yeah, you sounded right from the jump. Just thought I remembered a quote in there that broadened the advice, or laid out a more general philosophy about advising his draft eligible guys from the South on where they should be not trying to end up.

  14. 6 hours ago, Mat68 said:

    PFF has been mentioning a new metric that is proprietary called GAS?  A cumulative speed and explosion score taking game GPS scores.  Coleman is high on that list supposably.  
     

    Davis is an all around back that walks in for the Murray role and very well become the primary back up too. 

     

    Can you say more? 

     

    It's like an extension of the top recorded speed ever Coleman recorded in the combine gauntlet; although apparently someone posted here that he never hit 20mph in a game last season? That seems weird. Would love to know more about the metric you're introducing here. Love that game vs timed speed tension. 

     

    I've repeated a bunch on here (like anyone cares lol) how much I think that gauntlet showing (eclipsing Nacua's 2nd best ever mph from last year) is NOT nothing. Apparently the Bills agree to some extent.

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  15. Page 6 of this thread has been 🔥from you all. Reasonable discussion of his potential for IOL position flex or not. Experience and performance. Short arms. Athleticism. Interesting size/weight comps to other perceived smallish centers. Funny how well we keep things objective on a day three OC versus a day two WR. Makes sense.

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  16. 4 minutes ago, balln said:

    I’m not so sure. I think the bills draft players that WANT / are ok with being in buffalo. Unfortunately I can see a reality where there are some prospects that DO not want to play in buffalo (or other spots) for various reasons and it comes across in meetings. I guarantee that factors in their “board” rankings and meshes w the football evaluation 

     

    That isn't a wild take tbh, especially in light of Coach Prime's very public comments about advising his guys to avoid cold weather teams. 

     

    Then again, JA17 helps a LOT.

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  17. 19 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

    Jordan Travis is NOTHING like Josh Allen. Travis at times was late with the throw. Off target on some of the throws too. I love the T.O. comparison a poster used in another thread. I was thinking more Eric Moulds like

     

    Eric Moulds is a compelling comp, but we all know our guy Moulds was functionally more physical and much faster down the sideline than Coleman seems to be. Coleman does have more wiggle and more above-the-rim game, though.

     

    Moulds was a lot like AJ Brown, I think, if that makes sense. Just a monster. Not a lot of WRs have historically brought that same kind of brutish alpha physicality AND (deep) nine-route knack. 

     

    Coleman compares more closely to Tee Higgins to my eye. Measurables for sure (not QUITE as tall), and tape to an extent. I'd actually argue that Coleman is a little shiftier, whereas Higgins played on better offenses and got to show off slightly better top end speed. Mike Williams (the one the Jets recently signed from the Chargers) is another potential comp. Same distinctions seem to apply. 

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