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I am not saying it's a bad player or bad pick. I like Coleman. But...it's odd AF that you'd move out of 28, with your WR (apparently Coleman is your guy) and expose yourself to the risk of missing out. IF this was your guy...congrats for the manuevering.

My Chiefs fan point of view on it. 1. (forget the trade was with KC and Buffalo....I'll get to that). I don't like the move for KC that much. I don't hate it, but I do think it's a deep WR group and there are still a bunch of very good WR left. As some have noted, KC felt compelled to come up for Worthy. From the idea that KC moved to get their guy..great, they paid a small toll to move up and secure a guy they thought might go before 32. SF taking Pearsall, hints at that possibility, but by no means is proof anyone would have taken him before 32. The cost was cheap so I'm not bothered by that. I think if it was me, I would have stayed in place and taken Jerry Newton or Patrick Paul. I am excited to see what Worthy looks like on the field. 2. From the Bills point of view...the aesthetic of making this trade with KC is AWFUL. You can't do this with us. Not after Mahomes, not after McDuffie, not after 3-0 in recent playoff games holding the Bills back from what surely would be at least one Lombardi by now....it's a horrible horrible look and YES, the national meida are going to ROAST the Bills for doing this. 3. If you can get past the look of it...it's a good trade for the Bills. CLEARLY. CLEARLY they did not have anyone on their board they liked at all at 28. Worth was CLEARLY NOT the Bills guy so it's not like KC beat the Bills to the punch or anything like that. The Bills pick up some draft capital (albeit, not a whole lot) to move back and reconsider the situation. It's GOOD managing of the draft when you are able to pick up some capital when you find yourself in no mans land at your spot. Dropping back one more spot to 33 is the same thing. This isn't bad if you can get past the bad look of doing business with KC. 4. This is NOT a deep draft. If the Bills can convert some of that newly aquired later ammo into day 2 picks, it will be a plus. 5. Since the Bills DID deal with KC though....IF Worthy blows up, the Bills are going to get scorched for both trading with KC and misevaluting the player they could have taken. For this reason alone, I would have declined dealing with KC. Too little to be gained at the risk of it all blowing up in your face. 6. The Bills can still totally win their draft, overall it's correct strategy if their player evaluations are solid.

Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State - Indianapolis Colts Rome Odunze, Washington - Chicago Bears Ladd McConkey, Georgia - Philadelphia Eagles Brian Thomas Jr., LSU - Cinncinatti Bengals Xavier Worthy Texas- Carolina Panthers Bonus Bills pick - Karami Lassiter CB - Georgia

Sure..you need all the talent you can get across the roster. If you have an elite QB, who doesn't need a security blanket...then the best way to build a roster is probably not spending high on a WR who demands targets and is a locker room cancer.

Now that Diggs has been traded and it's come to light there has been ongoing problems in the Diggs/Allen relationship.....I STAND BY THIS. Allen is going to have a great year, and the Bills are going to be FINE. Allen is now free to run the offense without having in the back of his mind that he has to get one of the guys a number of targets. The ball can and will go to the optimal reciever on a given play.

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1. As mentioned earlier (but not read by just about everyone posting here) If they "leave" it's for other locations in the KC metro. This is a non story. 2. You can argue that tax funds invested into sports stadiums isn't all that great a deal for the taxpayer if you are wanting to drill down and find out how much revenue is generated VS what is invested. FINE...that isn't really what this is about (even thought the owners and politicians will claim what an economic boon it is!) ...the game is ......do you want to invest public funds in partnership with billionaires who own the teams, so that the stadium/arena and stuff is satisfactory and the team stays in your community? yes or no? because if you don't want to pony up, there is a line around the block of other communities who will. Greed? Coldhearted business.. playing at the heartstrings of fans OF COURSE.... I'd argue the value of of the investment is to HAVE the team..which in our day and age when there is so little that bonds us together as poeple...one of the few things that does...is a pro sports team.

Be careful what you wish for. The last time the Chiefs got punished for tampering in 2016, the NFL made KC forfiet their 3rd round pick right before the 2016 NFL draft. This single event propelled KC into a dynasty by protecting KC from itself. KC wanted Paxton Lynch and couldn't beat Denvers offer to trade up from 31 to 26 becasue KC didn't have a 3rd round pick to trade. If they had it, KC would have been able to offer 28 and 91 for 26 and draft Lynch. Instead Seattle took Denvers offer of 31 and 94. KC was missing pick 91. KC traded back to 36 after it couldn't trade up for Lynch and instead they drafted Chris Jones. The following season, they were still looking to draft a young future QB and traded up to 10 for Pat Mahomes. If KC didn't tamper with Jeremy Maclin, none of that happens. KC takes Lynch, doesn't draft Jones, and only 1 year into Lynch, isn't about to draft another QB in round 1.

It's amazing that this topic comes up over and over again. The Bills did not trade Mahomes to the Chiefs. The Bills traded the 10th overall pick in the 2017 Draft to KC. KC had been talking to the McDermott pretty much since the day he got hired, about moving up IF the board fell in ways that both teams were compelled to move up for KC, and down for Buffalo. KC was trying to move up to pick 5 once the festivities started. When pick 10 arrived, KC wanted to come up because Mahomes was still on the board. I can't stress enough, the McDermott had only been at the job 1 month. He is a D minded coach and did not consider himself qualified to be making a choice about a QB. Watson and Mahomes both were on the board when pick 10 came up. He decided it would be best to gather AMMO for next year, when they'd have a GM in place and they could evaluate and be on the same page about a QB in what was billed as a GREAT QB draft year in 2018. (2017 was not considered a good QB year) McDermott having traded away pick 10, (NOT MAHOMES) did about as well in 2018 as you possibly could! Josh Allen. For all McD knew, KC had moved up for Watson. He didn't know who they'd take at 10 out of Watson or Mahomes. It's quite likely the biggest Win/Win trades in NFL history how it's turned out and yet so many here think it's the Bills/McD fault KC got Mahomes. Is it the 49ers fault the Bears Got Trubisky? Afterall, the Bears traded up to two and made that choice. No one in Chicago blames San Francisco for "giving" Trubisky to the Bears.

One more thought on Ariaza from a KC perspective (IMO) I've seen some posts here knocking Araiza's lack of skill at directional punting/pinning teams in deep. I would ask, If you are punting from your own 50 and you fail to pin it in, and it's a touchback...how many yards did you lose by failing to pin it deep? The touchback puts it at the 25. A returner may have fair caught it at the 10...maybe even the 15 if he doesn't see a return available..but lets say he fair catches at the 10 as most are taught to let anything inside the 10, just bounce. That's 15 yards it's costing by having the punter fail to pin it deep. Now ask if you are the same team punting from your own 25 and your punter blasts a 60 yard punt with hangtime. Let's assume that the hangtime is good enough to compell a fair catch. That's going to be around the opponents own 15-20 yard line...completey and utterly flip the field. In both cases the other team is looking at a 75-80 yard drive. I'll take the guy who can make the other team have to go 80 yards after I've had to punt from my own 25 yard line.

Townsend is UFA. He's an excellent putner and he's gong to get paid. I am very happy for him and happy for his time in KC. The Chiefs aren't opposed to paying good money for a good kicker. Butker is one of the highest paid kickers in the NFL. He's worth every last penny....dude is NAILS in the post season. There is no justification for paying a punter top of market when you are KC. Either you believe Mahomes is going to make up for some of what you'd need a punter for, or your defense will. Araiza is a great low key signing for KC. When KC needs to punt....he will punt. In some circumstances...he will punt very far....and relatively inexpensively. For this not to be an OVERALL (including financials) Araiza will have to be pretty bad. I don't think so. KC probably going to get alot of bang for the buck on this one.

Speaking for myself...I've totally thought the Bills have been good enough and are good enough to win a championship for a while now. Unfortunately, the Chiefs are also good enough...and the Bengals have been right there...and this season, Baltimore was good enough to get it done also. The AFC is a guantlet. I remain convinced the Bills, with Allen are always a threat. (next year, with the Bills cap situation, it will be harder, but sometimes you win in the years you don't have the best version of your team.)

This could be made so much simpler if in the playoffs, you just eliminate the coin toss and home gets ball/choice. Sudden death. Make the regular season matter. Super bowl would need to be a little different because of the home team thing...just make that first team to score 6 points (one TD or 2FG) wins the game after a coin toss to decide who gets ball.

....Beane has been a very good GM.... Beane drafted ALLEN. I also don't think you all appreciate enough, how bad the roster was when he took over. The entire O line from Allens rookie year was OUT OF FOOTBALL within a year of Beane arriving. Most of the rest of the offense was too with very few exceptions. He had to churn the hell out of the roster AND develop a very raw QB at the same time. no small feat. I read the posts around here. Beane makes mistakes on draft day. ALL GMs do. he's had some great picks too. He's made some good trades. You can do alot worse...and you guys should know how bad it COULD be better than anyone. That doesn't mean Beane isn't deserving of criticism nor does it mean he shouldn't be questioned for not winning a SB thus far with the QB he has..that's all valid, but damn..to read some of the posts around here you'd think the guy was Dave Gettleman! Veach has had his share of errors. Veach's 1st draft as "the man" was a disaster. Treaded up for Breeland Speaks who was a complete bust. Only Derrick Nhadi in round 3 has had any impact at all and he is JAG at best and mostly below average. Veach gave MLB Anthony Hitchins a RIDICULOUS contract...he was terrible. The contract was so bad KC couldn't cut him. Overpaid for Sammy Watkins...who at least had some decent post season games but a huge overpay. You could certainly make the case that KC signing Jawan Taylor for top OL money was a mistake/overpay. I won't try too hard to fight that one...he's not bad when he's not getting called for false starts..but that happens way too much and he has a rep so gets plenty of holding calls too! Veach has learned from his mistakes and he's hit on key players in the past few drafts and made trades essential to KC sustaining success. Perhaps the least talked about, but most important accomplishment was after KC lost the 2020 Super Bowl where they lost both starting OT to more or less career ending injuries, had the worst starting center in the leauge and JAG at OG at best....he completely rebuilt the O LINE in an offeseason by trading for Orlando Brown (who was pretty good but not a great pass blocker) drafting Creed Humphrey and Smith who both started as rookies and played well..and signed ALL PRO LG Thuney. They played Wylie at RT...and he wasn't great, but he was competent enough to make that work. That was a miracle. And while Veach hasn't hit on O side skill players well.... Clyde Edwards Hellaire...BUTS. Sky Moore. BUST... Mecole Hardman has done quite well considering where he was drafted....he gets crapped on because KC passed on DK Metcalf. And KC hit on Rice this year...and Pacheco in round 7 last year. Veach nails DB's. KC has a type they look for and Veach finds them in every round. I think though, it should be said that Veach understands what the coaches want and he finds guys they can use. Veach therefore get a TON of help by having hte same coaching staff in place year after year...he gets their type and the coaches develop the players....makes Veach success rate look even better. EVEN after all this....it's still a QB leauge. You really gotta have one. Without Mahomes...all the above isn't near good enough.

Maybe I misunderstood the post about KC winning 13 games in a row with a negative turnover ratio...but if that is what the poster said and intended...that is wrong. KC wins a nuber of games with negative ratios (so do the Bills) but being on the wrong side of TO ratio is hard and even great teams lose more than win whenever the TO ratio isn't in their favor. Bad teams can NOT overcome it all. The broncos for example..haven't won a negative TO ratio game in nearly 2 years.