Laughing Coffin

Mills doesn't need to see the field ever again, he's been awful the entire season. He goes for the hug/tie up block every time and any DE worth their **** just absolutely dominates him on a play by play consistent basis

Seems like Mayfield is someone everyone loves to play for. His coach loves him, I think his passion for the game is unsurpassed by anyone. He's the ultimate competitor. I think his football character, and when you dig into a player before the draft, a lot of positive locker room things will come out in his defense, that'll counterbalance some of his more questionable moves

What's the big deal? DId he insinuate anything that was racially insensitive? This is just trying to find something to be mad at.

You mean with the 2nd rounder we ALSO got in the trade for Watkins? Not a bum, actually plays vey very well when he's in there. Hopefully he gets healthy, we'll probably resign him for cheaper because of his injury.

Bills got 2 scouts at Wyoming vs Air Force Obviously there for Josh Allen

TCU is 6th ranked overall defense in the country

I agree, but I found the QB part of the article interesting. A lot of us had us pinned for using our acquired picks to move up and draft the top QB. But are some of these guys that discernibly better than the others? Watching Mayfield right now he's so love hate with me. I can't get over his height, but wouldn't he be having issues in college with throwing lanes/batted down balls? I'm so conflicted lol

Good to know lol, I’ll copy and paste the contents of the article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743367-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-is-this-the-worst-draft-class-of-the-decade good read and definitely agree about the QB class. Is Rosen at 2 any better of a draft choice than mayfield at 20? It’s not even quantifiable if it is. Hopes and dreams. That's what we sell in the NFLdraft industry. Every year a fresh crop of players comes up from college football, and every NFL fanbase has hopes it'll find the next Tom Brady waiting in the sixth round or that it'll earn the No. 1 pick in the draft and be able to draft the next Peyton Manning. That's all well and good when there is a Peyton Manning (or even a Jameis Winston) in the draft class. This year? We should be selling caution and patience because this group has the potential to be the weakest I've scouted. Does anyone else spend way too much time watching those shows where they fix and flip houses? If not, you're missing out, and you probably won't get the analogy I'm about to lay on you. But stick with me. Every draft class is like that rundown house in a good neighborhood that was foreclosed on, but with the right vision and the right work it could be a steal and a potential cash cow. If draft classes are fixer-uppers, the 2018 class has mold in the walls and the basement leaks. But that doesn't mean the right person can't fix it up and make something awesome from it. You just need the right person evaluating what you've got and making the plan to fix it. I usually look at the strength of a draft class in terms of tiers. What's there in the top-end talent, i.e. players who will be drafted in the top 10? This year's class is solid on that front but not great. Two of the top five players in this class (Saquon Barkley, Quenton Nelson) play positions the NFL doesn't value. The quarterbacks—and as many as five or six could go in the first round—are a collection of question marks all likely to receive a grade lower than Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota on my final board. Even a once-promising left tackle class has been torn apart by struggling play from Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame) and Connor Williams (Texas). After the top tier, I look at the meat of the class—players expected to be drafted 11-65. NFL teams are built on these picks, and a good draft will have considerable depth here. Last year, for example, I had 58 players graded as second-rounders compared to 20 first-rounders. There was good depth in 2017, and we're seeing it as players like Kareem Hunt, Pat Elflein, Reuben Foster, Marcus Williams, Marcus Maye and Evan Engram (based on where I graded them) make big impacts from the second tier. The third tier is your middle-rounders. In a good draft you can find multiple starters here. This year? Yikes. The depth at wide receiver, offensive line, edge-rusher and cornerback is way down. That's following a year that was the deepest I've ever seen at running back, cornerback and safety. The final tier is the late-rounders. This is where players who are an inch short, a step slow or have serious off-field issues go. This might be the depth of this class because of the number of players who are undersized, under the threshold for speed and underdeveloped as far as the quality of their character. And we're not even to the medical portion of the draft process that happens at the NFL Scouting Combine in late February. I asked a handful of scouts and executives who've been around the league at least as long as me (2011 is when I started) if this year was better or worse than the infamous 2013 draft that saw Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel and Dion Jordan kick off the selection process. The consensus was that this year is better—we won't see offensive linemen comprise half of the top 10 picks—but that there were potential steals in the second tier of the 2013 class. One player personnel director said: "At least in 2013 we knew the players' strengths and weaknesses really well at this time and could slot them into a scheme. This year there are just so many unknowns in terms of fits right now." Others are worried the supply-versus-demand model for quarterback acquisition means players like Derek Carr or Russell Wilson, who were second- and third-round picks, respectively, are now first-rounders. "You can't get caught ... waiting for a quarterback anymore," one longtime national scout told me. "If you even like a guy a little, he's going top-32 now." What does this mean for teams like the Cleveland Browns, who likely will have two picks in the top seven selections and already own 12 picks overall? This isn't a bad year to trade down and amass more picks. The strength of this group isn't at the top based on evaluations done thus far. Said one area scout: "Would you rather have the No. 1 pick and spend it on Josh Rosen or the No. 20 pick and draft Baker Mayfield? You can't convince me one is better than the other right now." That's the way I feel too. The difference between the No. 2 overall player in this class and the No. 20 overall player simply isn't that great. This is what I call a flat talent year because there aren't the high peaks and low valleys of talent in the first round. Or from the first round to the second and third rounds. The 2018 draft isn't the worst in a decade, but based on my rankings and the conversations I've had with evaluators this week, it's definitely second to the 2013 group. If you're putting a lot of faith in 2018 to turn around your franchise, you'd better hope the front office is equipped to find a diamond in the rough.

CBS has the worst !@#$ing mocks ever. I think they had Saquon Barkley going like 19th or some garbage.

Zay was looking like he was going to have a dominant game against the Jets. That play he was tripped had reservations for 6, completely beat his man with no safety over top, and the ball was already in the air. He was going to have over 100 yards receiving and 2 TDs before half! Tyrod trusts him through all his woes early in the season, which is real promising. I think with the addition of KB, there's no way we keep Matthews at the money he's seeking (probably over 5-6 million +). He hasn't shown worthy of any price tag that much, could address the WR position in the draft with a pick in round 1-3 and get better production for much cheaper. With the loss of the 3rd rounder to Carolina, I hope we don't address the RB until the 4th, unless we really like someone in the 3rd. Too many prominent holes to fill. Boy I wish Karlos Williams didn't eat his way out the league.

This would be an amazing draft, but I’d be upset about not addressing OL at all

Im gonna trust the McDermott and Beane know what type of player and person Benjamin is considering they were around him for 3 seasons lmao

Agreed. Teams will scheme to keep mayfield in the pocket and make him throw through 6’5” + DL with their hands up in windows. it’s just not feasible. I too think Allen will impress in the individual workouts enough for a team to think they can coach him up

I don't think Beane wants to sit at our draft position at get the 4th or 5th QB drafted. That's a recipe for disaster if the past is any indicator. IF we identify OUR GUY in this draft, be it rosen, darnold, jackson, mayfield, etc. we will do what is necessary to trade up to get him.

Nobody is touching Mayfield in the 1st unless he's lights out at combine and workouts, because combine will show he's short of 6' with short arms

apparently hurt his ankle in the game, so it's a knee and an ankle, probably won't see him out there this week. He was looking real good against the Jets too. If he didn't get tripped up on that play, he had reservations for 6. Completely beat his CB in single coverage no safety over top.

I’d argue we want pit to win to make KC play the wildcard playoff round. If they lose there, their pick will land in the 21-24 range

If he’s your brother, you root for him and his team. if you’re REALLY his brother, you root for your team, hope he has a great game, and rub it in his face a little if your team beats him lol

Thought there was already news circulating that he’s retiring after the season

Nope. He’s not good enough to warrant tying up funds. Sign KB to a deal, draft another WR, zay is your 2-3 guy. We we can replace Matthews production with a 2nd-3rd rounder or we might use a 1st in a WR

It probably would take both 1sts and next years 1st

Was unaware of that thank you. I feel like colts would have been better off keeping Arians but you just can’t do that to your HC coming back from leukemia

Luck honestly has to pull a Lebron James style power move here. He needs to demand O-line help or he demands a trade. Simple as that. Pagano needs to be shown the door, as does the GM because they have their franchise QB and are ruining him by not protecting him.

This year, with Tyrod having 1 year left on his favorable contract, would clearly be the best year to get your guy, regardless if we have to trade up to get him or not. However, the class has started to look very mediocre, and downright passable. Any year that we want to sacrifice next year's draft we can always trade our current 1st + next years + to get the pick we desire to get the QB who we think is the future. The greatness of what we've done from last draft is that we would most likely find a trade where at most we'd give up 2 of our 3 firsts in the next 2 years. I gotta feeling that we (unless we move up a handful of spots to leapfrog a team ) stay where we are in the draft and look for WR, OL, DL, LB, CB, with our Day 1 - 2 picks. The only QB given this year's situation that I do like, that would fit well with everything, is Lamar Jackson. He's a taller Tyrod with a higher ceiling. He'd get to sit behind Tyrod, who by a lot of aspects is one of the most similar pro QBs to Lamar Jackson, and learn while Tyrod finishes out his contract. Ideally then after a year of sitting, we'd think it would be time to move on with LJ, freeing up a lot of cap space since we'd have LJ on a much cheaper 4 year deal.