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My other guy Preston Williams went off today for 12/243 and 3 TDs.

Wildcat does not work in the NFL. Especially if a 168 lb WR is in the backfield. Im not hating on Brown, he’s great. It’s just we are talking about the NFL where everyone is great. IMO I just don’t see a 5’9” 168 lb WR being a #1 WR go to guy in the league. Why Do I believe this? Cause it would be a first.

Name those 20.... I’d say maybe 5 who actually make an impact. Then name me 1 under 5’10” 180 lbs. Youre not going to find anyone near 5’10” 168. Tureen Hill, got it. But he’s 185 and thick! Edelman, Antonio Brown, Tavon Austin (not really)....

Dede Westbrook looked amazing some games at OU. But you just knew it wasn’t going to be like that in the league because of his size. Not comparing Westbrook to Brown. Just saying size does absolutely matter. Westbrook was a great college player. Sorry but but I do want a guy that can stretch the field and make tough catches, shield defenders if needed. I do like Harry overall. The point of the thread is Butler is gonna be recognized sooner rather than later. He’s already considered a 1st round guy in some eyes. He’ll get his 15 mins of fame and it may just launch him up the board.

There is a chance if he declares he may be invited. Not saying I don’t like Brown... Just would be tough to think a 168 lb WR is gonna be a stand out.

I can appreciate this! He’s got multiple plays like this. Granted it should have been a walk in TD... was it a blown coverage? Or maybe the FS bit on a head fake? Or the FS underestimated his speed? Or it was a great route? Shoot maybe the FS tripped up. Doesn’t matter, it was a terrible throw, Butler came back out leaped the kid, caught it over him, threw him off and scored 6. Read up on the kid, he’s got a “that’s my ball mentality”.... again if this kid was at USC there’d be more fans of him. I like the kid and see a ton of potential. I’ve seen enough film, read enough on him, listened to him speak and others speak on him to feel comfortable he’s gonna be a mid first round pick.

I still appreciate a WR who can go up a snag a 50/50 ball. I still appreciate a bigger WR who is hard to bring down (the Oklahoma clip I posted). And to say all his highlights are busted zone coverages is crazy. A few of them are actually double coverage and under thrown, and still breaking tackles. Say what you will, if this kid played for Clemson, Ohio St, Alabama etc with the same numbers and the same highlights folks here would be way more impressed. Especially having the nations best QB throwing him the ball. You gotta admit him in the Iowa State uniform isn’t that impressive either.

Hill is 185-190 lbs. he’s a very solid 5’10. Just his picture alone he looks like a brick house. Brown is your typical skinny 5’10” guy. Hence the 15 lb difference. We will see where he gets drafted and what he does at the next level. This kid is marked week in and week out against solid college teams, solid CBs. Not to mention a True Freshman QB. We need a guy who can get deep and make a play on the ball when needed. I see plenty of intermediate routes on there with him gaining separation. We can agree to disagree. But if this kid runs under 4.5 he’s a top 15 guaranteed.

Yes RS JR... I’m almost certain he comes out this year. He’s already being talked about in round 1. His potential is there and he’s got enough tape to back it up. I wouldn’t stay. Could you imagine if Drew Lock was this kids QB? He’d have probably double the receptions and nearly 1300 yards at this point. I think Butler is exactly what Josh Allen needs. Foster on the other side, Zay Jones and Justin Hardy (FA) in the slot. Croom, Clay and Maxx Williams (FA) at TE. Could be much improved. Id even keep Donte Thompson who can play outside or slot. McKenzie STs.

Brown is going to measure probably under 5’10 and 170 lbs at the combine..... please name me any legit #1 WR in league that is 5’9” 170 lbs?

I’ve read articles stating sub 4.5. He even says himself hes faster faster than most think. I see him pulling off a 4.49 lol. I agree with you. And hearing to Ramses Braden name made me laugh. Just hadn’t heard it in awhile. I just see Butler making plays, running smooth routes and looking effortlessly against high level FBS teams. Not that it makes a difference I bet he comes in at 6’5” 1/2, 218 (down weight for the combine. He get his sub 4.5. His ability to get deep reminds me of Martavis Bryant.

5’10 170lbs is not getting drafted in round 1. Yes he’s great against college kids. But I just see nfl “go to” guy in this kid. There’s times this kid disappears. Nothing against him, some just think he’s a top NFL WR prospect. I disagree Here’s what’s gonna happen. Butler will finish the season with 1200 yds, 55 receptions, 10-12 TDs. He will run a high 4.4 or low 4.5 40 at the combine. Pro day he will run in the 4.4s. Then fans will start talking about him. Watch.

I think JAWS Whiteside is decent. That’s the kid that reminds me of a Funchess. You gotta take into account Butler is playing with a True Freshman QB too.

The WRs in the 19 Draft I like are (5) Harry Butler A Johnson P Williams K Harmon Look at the teams Butler has played this year compared to Western Michigan. Competition has a lot to do with grading a player. We will see... he’s already being talked about in round 1. He’s gonna move up the boards.

Lol I don’t care for either AJ or Marquise Brown.

Who? And don’t say AJ Brown or Marquise Brown Butler reminds me of a taller Michael Thomas.

Butler has nearly 1000 yards and 8 TDs thus far. Played tougher competition than Davis did in college too. I have no no clue what you’re talking about.

When it comes down to it, this kid is a match up nightmare. Runs smooth routes, tough after the catch, hard to bring down. A hands catcher. Obviously great size and speed. You watch a lot of his highlights he’s getting on top of the defense. Long strides and can separate. I got N’Keal Harry #1 WR in this draft but this kid is a close 2nd. A lot of defense in the top 10 in this years draft. But after the season, combine and pro days, look for this kid to get a lot of air time. 6’6” 225 don’t come around often. Also if Corey Davis can go 5 overall. This kid and N’Keal could be top 10 picks.

As long as this team does it’s homework in FA and can sign 2 solid Oline and a good WR too. i wouldn’t mind if they grabbed Josh Allen from Kentucky inside to top 10. Imagine Edmunds, Milano and Allen for the next 3-4 years +. But this team has got to get a solid C & G... Question is what does this team think of Mills at RT?

Only guy I like in the top 10 would be N’Keal Harry. I’m not a fan of AJ Brown either. He’ll be exposed at the combine. WRs I like... thus far. Preston Williams CSU (2nd) Kelvin Harmon NCST (2nd) David Sills WVU (2nd-3rd) Antione Wesley TT (2nd-3rd) Bryce Nunnelly UT Chat (4th) Keyshawn Johnson Fresno (4th-5th) Look up- Donald Parham from Stetson. listed as a TE, 6’8 240 lbs, 85 receptions, 1319 yards, 13 TDs. reported to have good to great speed. I’m sure he’ll get an invite to the combine and may surprise. May be able to transition to WR...

I like Kelvin Harmon or Preston Williams from CSU in the 2nd. AJ Brown is going to get highlighted at the combine when he run a 4.65 and doesn’t shine. Yes a great college WR, but I feel he’s already maxed out. Could be a good Pro. Just not a 1st round legit #1 NFL WR like some think.

Get Joe D as our Oline coach!!!!

I’d like to see them extend Hyde and Poyer after the season. Just lock them both up. I think they are signed through the 2020 season. Get them extended 3 years which would push them to the length of T White after his 5th year option.

4 - 12. That is what I thought. I knew the Oline would struggle. I knew Allen would be named starter and struggle. and I knew we had below average WRs.

In the 70s.... just look at foot work from the early 90s til now. Is Culley a bad coach. No, is he a great QB coach? I doubt it. Id like to see an upgrade there and Oline coach.